first time for crack n h

[bowlingforcindy]

i will be doin crack for the first time soon, with me friend, he says its much better than coke, n when weve done that we will have some heroin, which will be my firs time on both. i suggested to my friend about a speedball and if you can smoke both at same time, is that possible? anyone have any advice?


does it take much to overdose, i am new to these but have got high tolerance to most other drugs.

[Woodman]

bowlingforcindy,



Don't do them together like that; not at first.



I think I know what your friend is doing.

When you're done smoking crack you crave more and feel shitty if you don't have any. Heroin is sometimes used to kill the jones you get coming down from coke.



IMO, this is too much of a hardcore method for a beginner.



Try crack by itself, then on another day, try heroin by itself.

[BCgirl]

Hey cindy


I did that.. smoke crack.. then smoke H let me tell you.. H totally brings you down.. it made me sick and I almost threw up.. actually i was the only one to NOT throw up considering I was the newbie and all my other friends were long time users... I have a high high tolerance for stuff esp coke and crack.. the last couple of times I did crack.. i didn't take H to come down.. it wasnt worth it for me.. I just bottomed out from H.. I rather just drink water and sleep it off

[bowlingforcindy]

what do you think of h then. how many times have u done it. i wanna try it but promised me m8s i wouldnt. i kno id only try it once and would resist it again and never have it on a regualr basis .

[Citizen Kane]

Originally Posted by bowlingforcindy

what do you think of h then.

Heroin
is safer, far less damaging, and psychologically less addictive
than crack. First-time users of crack tend to keep on taking it
until either all crack is finished or they have run out of money or
their dealer is no longer within reasonable range. This is
certainly not true for Heroin.



Crack is an upper and gives you a brief, intense, euphoric high; it's
arguably the best high that has so far been discovered. Smoking
Heroin does not come remotely close to it, neither by intensity nor by
effect. Heroin is a downer and gives you a mellow, long-term
feeling of perfect content, warmth, security, happiness, relaxation.



Smoking crack cocaine and heroin together poses security risks; in
particular as the secondary effects of Heroin take time to develop,
while crack hits you immediately. If you keep on smoking crack
and heroin for an hour or two, you might simply overdose Heroin -- and
you won't notice it because the cocaine prevents your body from
shutting down. Only once its effects cease, the combined effects
of Heroin will hit you fully. If you smoke heroin by itself, starting
with a very small amount, and keep some common sense by waiting for the
effects, your risk to overdose is nil.



There are other risks involved with cocaine/heroin mixtures -- you
confuse your body by stimulating it with uppers and downers at the same
time. You increase the risk to experience the most negative
potential side-effects of either drug and a combination of
side-effects, inculding palpitations and heart failure.



Also what Erowid says is true.

how many times have u done it. i wanna try it but promised me
m8s i wouldnt. i kno id only try it once and would resist it again and
never have it on a regualr basis .

Heroin is not a drug for
everyone. You might like it or not. If you really like it,
you will take it again with a probability close to certainty.
Doesn't mean you will become addicted but Heroin is like a young,
independent, strong and mighty black stallion. If you are not
strong enough to tighten the reigns, he will ride you and will do with
you what he wants.

[chonkey]

yeah if you simply must do it... and in case you haven't already done
it, then start with the crack... very small amount, and use the heroin
at the end of your binge to avoid the come-down effects. That's better
and in the end at least a bit safer than mixing the two at the same
time. You will avoid the annoying cocaine come-down and will experience
some of the good effets of heroin and bit of the speedball experience.
Take it very easy with the heroin though, as stated above, it's hard to
tell when you've done too much heroin especially while on cocaine.
Don't keep taking some if you don't feel "really f'ed up.. all tired
like most people on H i've heard about"... the coke is keeping you up,
so don't use much at all.