Oral use - Sublingual Administration of Benzodiazepines

[RealGanjaMan]

Hi everyone,
I have a few Q's about Sublingual Administration, that I need answered before SWIM heads out tonight. SWIM has two 1mg lorazepam sublingual pills, and he wants to take them tonight. He has never used Sublingual Administration, and is not quite sure how to do it. He knows to put the pills under your tongue. He knows you let them dissolve. But do you have to let the dissolved powder/saliva absorb into your mouth before swallowing?

Also, does swallowing while the pills are dissolving cause any problems?


Thanks,
-RGM

[IHrtHalucingens]

Just pop em under your tongue, like you stated, wait for them to dissolve then swollow any extra saliva there may be. Itsa been SWIMs experience that benzos dissolve very quickly under the tongue and are absorbed almost intsantly. Just wait until its totally dissolved then swallow, it hits you hard and fast, pretty close to snorting (with water soluble substances).

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Thanks for the info on Sublingual Administration

[RealGanjaMan]

Thanks, SWIM did just what you mentioned. It worked fine.

K+

-RGM

[csharpprogrammer]

I keep reading that the best route of administration for benzodiazepine pills is by holding it under your tounge. I am completely new to this route of administration. For example SWIM wants a little clonazepam buzz... does swim put one 0.5mg tablet under his tounge until it disolves completely then put another until he reaches his desired effects? How long until effects are noticed?

Also does the pill have to be designated for sublingual use, and what is the duration and power of the effects as opposed to oral administration? Thanks.

[Riconoen {UGC}]

swim always puts a kpin under his tongue, he feels a rush of benzo calmness almost instantly. it takes about 1.5 mills for swim to feel high and not just calm though.

[Nicaine]

Heh, SWIY should try using Ambien sublingually sometime. Separates the men from the Godzillas... Anyone who can do it without puking deserves respect. It does take effect faster, but that taste could keep someone awake for a week...

[csharpprogrammer]

For sublingual administration, all you do is let the pill disolve under your tounge?

[Nicaine]

Originally Posted by csharpprogrammer

For sublingual administration, all you do is let the pill disolve under your tounge?

Yes... it won't always lead to the drug taking effect faster though, but often it will (at least with initial effects; typically you won't get the full effect until digested, unless the pill is specifically designed for sublingual admin).

Also, the flavor/consistency of many tablets makes them bad choices for sublingual use, but most benzodiazepines taste mildly sweet/chalky.

[Cuberun]

Originally Posted by Nicaine

Heh, SWIY should try using Ambien sublingually sometime. Separates the men from the Godzillas... Anyone who can do it without puking deserves respect. It does take effect faster, but that taste could keep someone awake for a week...

heh swim just chewed two 2x 1mg alprazolam. then took 2 roche 10mg valium sublingually.. an hour has gone and swim isnt feeling too shabby after a night of speed and intensely draining activities... but hes got another 2x10 diazepam under his tongue right now. as soon as those are melted swims gonna be sure to brush his teeth!!! he did go for some sublingual n gum rubbing on the speed. might also be noteworthy that swim had shwinged on speed the past 2 days as well, but then had good alprazolam (xanax) access. he'd pop 2-4 mg at the end of a roll and felt more or less normal, seeing as he forcefed himself porridge a couple of days it was alright. its only annoying when you "Forget to eaT"... although swim has limited experience in all of these substances he noted the addiction potential and well.. right now there is no more alprazolam or speed (went through 5 grams last week and it was farily good..) although tonight it was REALLY good. Honest man swim knew, he said it was 87% because he'd get nosebleeds unless he mixed it.

Right now swim has only got 6x 10mg roche valiums left (pointing out that generic brands usually dont contain 10mg as stated but often 7mg)

[Jatelka]

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A rule many tend to forget will cause a mass of warnings soon...

Thread title edited to include "Benzodiazepines"

[Psych0naut]

So SWIM is a gorrila then, Nicaine After a night on amphetamines, SWIM always takes some sleeping pills sublingually, which work great.
When SWIM takes 2 zolpidems sublingually, he's knocked out cold within 10 minutes, like he drank a whole bottle of whiskey.
SWIM always get's a good night sleep if he takes some zolpidems, it really makes a big difference the next morning, having had some sleep.
Though the metallic bitter taste of them is so awfull, SWIM found out last night that midazolam has the same nasty metallic taste as well, yuck!

[GForce]

Would this work well for Xanax?

[Jatelka]

Xanax is one of the quicker acting benzos anyway, but yes it would work (although possibly taste bad!)

[GForce]

Originally Posted by Jatelka

Xanax is one of the quicker acting benzos anyway, but yes it would work (although possibly taste bad!)

Yeah, SWIM was too impatient for a response so he tried it himself. It definitely worked but it was an awful taste. It took SWIM about 30 minutes to get the taste out of his mouth after using plenty of fluids and a cough drop.

[Riconoen {UGC}]

kpins dont taste like anything and hit you fast. choose kpin!

[Donmeka]

lol i swear ric is the walking klonopin. like the marlboro man but sexier

[Riconoen {UGC}]

Originally Posted by Donmeka

lol i swear ric is the walking klonopin. like the marlboro man but sexier

hahaha that made my day.

[radiometer]

One can purchase banana-flavored sublingual clonazepam. I can hardly imagine how disgusting it would be to take alprazolam sublingually.

[Donmeka]

Originally Posted by radiometer

One can purchase banana-flavored sublingual clonazepam. I can hardly imagine how disgusting it would be to take alprazolam sublingually.

having a presc to the 1mg alpazolam footballs i have to say it doesnt taste too bad or good. its salty and mildy sweet. banana flavored clonazepam sound just neat.

recently my alpazolam presc was changed to lorazepam 1mg and i tried that sublingually and it wasnt as bad tasting as alpazolam but the pills seemed more suited for sublingual use because when i pressed down on the pill it seemed to mold. so seems more soluable than alpazolam. and the taste was nowhere near as bad as alprazolam

[Psych0naut]

The binders in the pill probaply make a difference in taste as well. SWIM recently took a Roche 7.5mg midazolam sublingually, which tasted very discustingly bitter, like zolpidem and zopiclone.
When he took several 10mg oxazepams he didn't taste a thing, except for the same binders he tasted when he took melatonine sublingually.

[csharpprogrammer]

Originally Posted by Psych0naut

The binders in the pill probaply make a difference in taste as well. SWIM recently took a Roche 7.5mg midazolam sublingually, which tasted very discustingly bitter, like zolpidem and zopiclone.
When he took several 10mg oxazepams he didn't taste a thing, except for the same binders he tasted when he took melatonine sublingually.

How did SWIY feel with 7.5 mg sublingual? SWIM has 5mg in liquid form and wants to know what the effects would be.

[csharpprogrammer]

Could some SWIY please answer my last two posts?!?!?

[longdistancerunner]

Originally Posted by csharpprogrammer

Could some SWIY please answer my last two posts?!?!?

Well, swim took 6mg clonezepam intranasaly last night....just to see if it really did anything special or different than ingestion, and, in accordance with general opinion in the "snorting benzos" thread....it didnt....Tonight...or, more accurately, right now, swim is trying 7mg sublingually and if he doesn't feel anything interesting he'll report back later. Swim will also be taking 5mg oxycodone, and possibly, depending on how that treats him, 20mg amphetamine. One thing swim notices with both snorting, and sublingual administration of kpins is a distinct "cold" feeling....does swia know the reason for this?

EDIT: 7mg sublingually of clonezepam gave swim a much more pronounced, yet shorter lasting peak....after the one percocet swim took kicked in he passed out for about 4 hours....even after taking a 20mg adderol xr to avoid sleep. Overall, swim highly reccommends the sublingual route for clonezepam, for he has an extreme tolerance and takes up to 20mg oral and is still awake and functioning...

EDIT again after reading Benzeneringz post: Swim hadn't eaten anything for 7+ hours and this may be the reason he felt so much more from 7mg sublingual than he would normally.

[Donmeka]

SWIM got a hold of 2 10mg diazepams. SWIM will be taking 5mg sublingually with some MJ and 10mg when he gets home to sleep.

im glad to hear that ric haha

[radiometer]

Minor point: It seems to me that sublingual use of alprazolam is not very useful - when SWIM takes alprazolam orally, it takes less than 5 minutes for the effects to take hold.