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Old 06-11-2006, 08:14
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Easy To Get Legal Highs

SWIM likes to experiment with "easy to get legal highs"

When SWIM means easy to get he means walking down to the store and buying it.

SWIM has tried dxm, nutmeg, benadryl, lsa (Morning glory)
so far SWIM favourite "legal high" is lsa.

SWIM wants to try kratom or salvia but i dont beleive they sell these in stores where SWIM lives.
Is there anything else SWIM can easily buy from a store besides what SWIM has listed above.

Swim lives in Canada by the way.

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Old 06-11-2006, 08:30
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Re: SWIM likes experimenting...

It would be easy to get at any drugstore if SWIY lived in the U.S., so SWIM will mention it (if nothing else, for the benefit of U.S. readers).

It's the wrong forum for it so I'll just post a link to the thread. Try to keep replies there instead of here, since you chose the ethnobotanicals forum for this thread (it should focus on ethnobotanicals, which are plant products).

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15548

Note that SWIY would probably have to buy online (try eBay) and import this product from the U.S. to Canada... I doubt it's sold OTC there, but SWIM thinks there's exactly a 0% chance of customs busting anyone for it. Zilch. They've got far more important things to focus on than nasal decongestants, not to mention it's very unknown to most people that the product can be used as a legal high.

Enjoy...

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Old 07-11-2006, 08:40
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Re: SWIM likes experimenting...

Poppy seed tea, San Pedro Cactus, Coleus, Catmint, Kava Kava.
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Old 07-11-2006, 15:52
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Re: SWIM likes experimenting...

^^^^
Thanks alot ill look into those. and i decided ill order online as well.
Is kanna or kratom any good? I have heard so
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Old 07-11-2006, 21:14
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Re: SWIM likes experimenting...

UTFSE for more info on Kanna and Kratom.

Kratom is one of the best.

Some love Kanna, with others they get not much effect or even a headache.
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Old 09-11-2006, 06:05
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Re: SWIM likes experimenting...

I have a question about poppy seed tea?
Is it dangerious. I have heard of people dieing from it.
Due to a morphine over dose. Because some bags of poppy seeds contain more morphine than others so u can really tell how much you are doing.
What does is best for someone new to this?
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Old 09-11-2006, 07:50
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Re: SWIM likes experimenting...

UTFSE in the opiates/poppy growing forum. It will tell SWIY all he/she needs to know.

Also, while not an ethnobotanical, codeine is OTC in canada, a cold water extraction could be done on the pills. UTFSE on that one too, it will yield some threads on the topic.

SWIM just read a thread on galangal (sp?) which sounded promising, apparently this is a root that can be purchased at asian markets.
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Old 09-11-2006, 23:42
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That's easy.

Peruvian Torch cactus.

Actually, powdered PT.
Or, San Pedro.
Or a PT with short spines.
Or a Bridgesii.

But, sacred cactus is your best bet.

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Old 01-02-2007, 21:52
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Re: SWIM likes experimenting...

SWIM mentioned that one of the legal highs available easily in canada is codein, it can be purchased at any pharmacy and comes in 8mg codein, 15mg caffein, and 325mg ASA pills, which should be extracted using cold water and a coffee filter. But be carefull, as it can be quite addictive and using it without extracting it is dangerous, do some research on it first, but it is easily available in canada, and available without shipping, if receiving packages of strange herbs or powders isnt wise where SWIY is located
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Old 10-02-2007, 19:37
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Re: Easy To Get Legal Highs

Salvia is thus far SWIM's LEAST favorite drug, it tastes like catshit and a majority of the trips are scary or just dull and uncomfortable.

And if SWIY does decide to start smoking salvia SWIM suggests getting a seperate pipe, as it'll make SWIY's resin taste the wretched hell.
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Old 10-02-2007, 23:33
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Re: Easy To Get Legal Highs

Most easy to get legal high is definatly DXM, just go to your local grocery store and you'll find a treasure trove of it. Nutmeg is terrible, swim tried it a few times and it was a mild stoning feeling and then feeling like you have the flu. LSA is pretty good if swiy likes leg cramps from hell.
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Old 11-02-2007, 00:58
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Re: Easy To Get Legal Highs

I would be careful with kava kava,I hear high amounts can cause some liver damage.
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Old 11-02-2007, 05:05
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Re: Easy To Get Legal Highs

Where I live getting kava kava is like pulling lions teeth becuase of the liver damage scares. You can't get it anywhere even vitamin stores.
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Old 11-02-2007, 16:12
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Re: Easy To Get Legal Highs

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Where I live getting kava kava is like pulling lions teeth becuase of the liver damage scares. You can't get it anywhere even vitamin stores.
Yeah I had to order mine online.
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Old 11-02-2007, 16:18
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Re: Easy To Get Legal Highs

Nutmeg can also cause some liver damage,infact there is a name for the condition it causes called "nutmeg liver"nutmeg is really no fun regardless.Well I have found one use for it,smoking a tiny bit of it in a cigarette gives a very mild buzz.
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Old 12-02-2007, 02:38
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Re: Easy To Get Legal Highs

You sure you aren't refering to egrotism? I know that can be caused by morning glories.
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Old 12-02-2007, 03:23
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Re: Easy To Get Legal Highs

No I'm absolutely sure I've read about the nutmeg liver condition on erowid and a few other places.It adds fats to the liver that cause damage,I'm not sure of the exact process of the condition because it's been awhile since I read it but nutmeg is definitely known to injure the liver.
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Old 12-02-2007, 03:25
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Re: Easy To Get Legal Highs

That's a big brainfart on my part, they aren't even similar chemicals. I don't think nutmeg even has any ergo-alkaloids
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Old 12-02-2007, 03:31
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Re: Easy To Get Legal Highs

LOL I sort of noticed that myself nutmeg must really be a substance of desperation.SWIM doesn't think that it tastes that bad it is just the texture and smell that made it a nightmare for him to injest large amounts the first and only time he tried it.Though I have read a few reports by people that actually enjoy and love the nutmeg experience.I think it was popular among some circles in the sixties and seventies.According to SWIM it took hours for the experience to start when he did it and it was odd..he was lying in bed trying to go to sleep and all of a sudden he closed his eyes and the bed felt as if it were flying and he felt extremely nauseaus.
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Re: Easy To Get Legal Highs

Nitrous oxide, my friend. Commonly available at headshops, just ask for "whipped-cream chargers" and get a cracker and a few balloons. Have swiy and his friends get drunk one night and prepare to have some fun!
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Re: Easy To Get Legal Highs

This thread is kind of old and the following may already be available elsewhere, or be totally lame, but I stumbled on it looking for info to answer another post and thought I'd throw it in here.
WARNING: there was mention of t*t*e as the source for this, lol
http://www.textfiles.com/drugs/lglhigh.txt


*** Legal Highs ***

re-typed by: Coroner


The following are excerpts from the book "Legal Highs". All
drugs listed are 100% legal to possess and buy, HOWEVER any use of
these herbs for psychotropic purposes is against federal law. The
dosage, effects, contraindictions (harmful side-effects), and
suppliers are listed here. In writing this file I have chosen not to list
the more harmful drugs listed in the book, as experimentation with
these by amateurs could easily lead to death. If you're a REAL BIG
drug-drug head or are just really interested in the subject, then I
suggest you get a copy of the book. It may be hard to find, but is
well worth the search.

Here we go...

Supplier abbreviations used herein ---

[EDITED OUT--h.a.]

NOTE: It is best to send off for a catalog from these places
before trying to order anything


BETEL NUT (Areca catechu)
Material: Large seed of an Asian palm tree
Usage: It is wrapped in the leaf of the betel pepper and
sprinkled with burnt lime, catechu gum from the Malayan
acacia tree, and nutmeg, cardamom or other spices. This
morsel is placed in mouth and sucked on for several hours.
Effects: Arecoline (the main active constituent) is a central
nervous system stimulant. It increases respiration and
decreases the work load of the heart. Betel leaf has
mild stimulating properties.
Contraindictions: Excessive arecoline from immoderate use or
unripe nuts can cause dizziness, vomiting,
diarrhea and convulsions. Frequent use stains
mouth, gums, and teeth deep red. Long-term
overuse is said to weaken sexual potency.
Supplier: MGH, RCS


BROOM (Genista, Cytisus,, Spartium, spp.)
Material: Blossoms of any of several species including Canary
Island Broom and Spanish Broom.
Usage: Blossoms are collected, aged in a sealed jar for 10 days,
dried, and rolled into cigarettes. Smoke is inhaled and
held.
Effects: One cigarette produces relaxed feeling for 2 hours. More
causes deeper relaxation and longer lasting effects (4-5 hours).
Relaxation is deepest during 2 hoursand is followed by
mental alertness and increased awareness of color
without hallucinations.
Contraindictions: Usually no undesirable side effects or hangover
Some persons experience mild headaches immediately
after smoking. Broom flowers are extremely toxic
when ingested. Has heart stimulating properties,
like digitalis.
Supplier: Common in parks and gardens. Dried Broom, MGH; viable
seeds, RCS.


CALAMUS (Acorus calamus)
Material: Roots of tall, flagrant, sword-leafed plant found in
marshes and borders of pondsand streams in Europe, Asia
and North America from Nova Scotia to Minnesota,
southward to Florida and Texas.
Usage: Roots are collected in late Autumn or Spring, washed, voided
of root fibres and dried with moderate heat. Root may be chewed
or be broken up and boiled as a tea. Doses range from 2 to
10 inches of root. Root deteriorates with age. Usually inactive
after 1 year. Store closed in a cool dry place.
Effects: A piece of dried root the thickness of a pencil and about
2 inches long provides stimulation and boyant feelings.
A piece 10 inches long and acts as a mind alterant and
hallucinogen.
Contraindictions: The FDA frowns upon the sale and use of Calamus
and has issued directives to certain herb dealers
not to sell it to the public. An FDA directive
is simply a polite word for a threat of hassling
without a law to back it. At present there are
no laws against calamus. Some experiments have
indicated that excessive amounts of Calamus oil
can increase the tumor rate in rats. Many of the
Cree Indians of Northern Alberta chew Calamus root
for oral hygiene and as a stimulating tonic.
They apparently suffer no unpleasant side- effects.
In fact, those who use it seem to be in better
general health than those who do not.
Supplier: dried root, MGH; viable root, RCS, GBR


CALIFORNIA POPPY (Eschscholtzia californica)
Material: leaves, flowers, and capsules of common wildflower
Usage: Materials are dried and smoked.
Effects: Very mild marijuana-like euphoria from smoking lasting 20-30
minutes. Concentrated extract of plant may be more potent when
ingested or smoked.
Contraindictions: No apparent side-effects. Not habit-forming.
Appears to be innefective when used again within
24 hours.
Supplier: grows wild; seeds, B, FM, G, NK, RCS


DONANA
Material: Small, spiny cactus from northern Mexico and southern Texas
Usage:Spines are removed and 8-12 fresh or dried cacti are consumed
on empty stomach. These may be chewed or crushed and brewed
for 1 hour as tea.
Effects: Hallucinogen somewhat similar to mescaline.
Contraindictions: Should not be taken in large doses with strong
MAO Inhibitors. Otherwise, none known.
Supplier: cuttings, AHD; seeds, RCS, NMCR


HAWAIIAN WOOD ROSE, BABY & LARGE (Argyreia nervosa)
Material: Seeds within round pods of climbing plant found in Asian
and Hawaiian forests.
Usage: Seed are removed from pod, white layer is scraped or singed
from seed coat and seeds are ground and consumed or soaked
in water, strained, and drunk. Dose 4-8 seeds.
Effects: LSD-like experince with extreme lassitude. Nausea may be
experienced during first hour or two. Total experience lasts
about 6 hours. Tranquil feelings may continue for 12 or
more hours afterwards.
Contraindictions: Pregnant women or persons with history of liver
disorders should not take lysergic acid amides.
Supplier: MGH


HELIOTROPE (Valeriana officinalis)
Material: Roots of fairly common garden plant.
Usage: 1/2 oz. boiled for 5 minutes in 1 pt. water, strained and
drunk.
Effects: Tranquilizer and sedative.
Contraindictions: Has unpleasant smell but tolerable taste. May
add honey.
Supplier: herb, MGH; seeds, RCS


INTOXICATING MINT (Lagochilus inebrians)
Material: Leaves of central Asian shrub.
Usage: Leaves are dried and steeped to make tea.
Effects: Tranquilizer, intoxicant, mild hallucinogen.
Contraindictions: None known.
Supplier: MGH


KAVA KAVA (Piper methysticum)
Material: Root pulp and lower stems of tall perennial shrub from
South Pacific islands, Hawaiian Islands, and New Guinea.
Usage: In the islands two methods are used. If dried kava roots are
simply made into a tea, the water-soluble components are
released and it acts as a mild stimulating tonic. If materials
chewed, then spit into a bowl and mixed with coconut milk,
powerful narcotic resins are released in emulsion. Those who
do not wish to pre-chew the root may do either of the
following for the same result: (1) 1 oz. pulverized or finely
ground kava is mixed with 10 oz. water or cocnut milk, 2 tbsp.
coconut oil or olive oil, and 1 tbsp. lecithin and blended
in an osterizer until liquid takes on milky appearance. Serves
2-4 persons. (2) Extract resins with isopropyl (rubbing alchohol)
in heat bath, remove solvents by evaporation. Redissolve in just
enough warm brandy, rum, or vodka. Honey may be added to
sweeten. A small cordial glass per person should be
enough. The first method emulsifies the resins, the second
method dissolves them in alchohol. The latter is the more
potent method because alchohol switly caries resins into the
system.
Effects: Pleasant stimulation after 30 minutes (sooner in alchohol).
After another 30 minutes, euphoric and lethargic sedative
effects are felt but with unimpaired mental alertness.
Depresses spinal activity, not cerebral activity. After
a time, one may sleep. Total experience lasts 2-3 hours.
Aftereffects: pleasant, relaxed feelings. No hangover.
Contraindictions: Generally nontoxic. If fresh root or alchohol extract
is used excessively for several months, it may
become habit-forming and cause yellowing, rashes,
scaliness or ulcers of skin, diarrhea, emaciation,
loss of appettite, reddening and weakening of eyes.
These symptoms disappear rapidly when kava intake
is reduced. These conditions do not occur
with normal use (once per week in islands). Used
normally, kava is stimulating to appetite, and
generally beneficial.
Supplier: MGH


YOHIMBE (Corynanthe yohimbe)
Material: The inner bark of a tropical West African tree.
Usage: 6-10 tsp. of shaved bark boiled in 1 pt. water, strained
and sipped slowly. Addition of 500 mg Vitamin C per cup makes
it take effect more quickly and potently.
Effects: First effects after 30 minutes (15 minutes with Vitamin C),
warm, pleasant spinal shivers, followed by psychic stimulation,
heightening of emotional and sexual feelings, mild
perceptual changes without hallucinatons, sometimes spontaneous
erections. Sexual activity is especially pleasurable.
Feelings of bodies melting into one another. Total experience
lasts 2-4 hours. Aftereffects: pleasant, relaxed feeling
with no hangover.
Contraindictions: Tannins and alkaloids make tea somewhat bitter
and unpleasant. Addition of honey may help. Slight
nausea may be experienced by someindividuals during
first 30 minutes. Vitamin C lessens this. MAO
inhibitor.
Supplier: MGH


WARNING: While I have listed only the safer herbal "drugs",
combinations of some drugs may be harmful or fatal. When
experimenting with these or any drugs, it is wise to wait
a week in between experiments.
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I would be careful with kava kava,I hear high amounts can cause some liver damage.
Swim personally thinks this is BS, misinformation pushed by the pharms industry where the test subjects were chronic alcoholics. A blast on the Kava kava here and there is probably safer than a few beers.
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Re: Easy To Get Legal Highs

Kava liver damage - Not Guilty! looks like someone agrees

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Re: Easy To Get Legal Highs

Well known the test was a sham. Kava~Kava is perfectly safe - unless you make it with milk and you're lactose intolerant.

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