Combinations - Propylhexedrine and MDPV

[Nicaine]

Since SWIM used some MDPV (a stimulant research chemical / dopamine reuptake inhibitor) today unplanned, he decided to go ahead with this combo tonight and give stimulants a rest until the middle of next week, instead of waiting until then before trying it.

Approx. amounts taken --

* Propylhexedrine: 60-75mg (oral)
* MDPV: 5-10mg (insufflated)

SWIM will report on what this combo feels like, if in fact that's enough propylhexedrine to get any effect from (if not, he'll up it a bit). Since it's not uncommon for people to have serious issues using either of these substances alone, particularly propylhexedrine, the combo holds promise in terms of minimizing negative side effects of each by using lower doses. However, SWIM should note that he's also used caffeine and L-Tyrosine today (albeit much earlier), which may add to the overall side effect profile. It's also worth noting that he has a general tolerance to stimulants built up, so whatever amounts he ends up settling on may need to be reduced for someone who doesn't.

Observation #1: Very, very wired feeling. SWIM definitely doesn't want to go any further with the propylhexedrine at this point. It's not exactly unpleasant or panicky, just heavy duty speed-like tweakage (heart rate is <70 beats/minute, which is fabulous where propylhexedrine is concerned). He wishes he'd stayed completely away from caffeine and L-Tyrosine today, to get a better idea of how strong this would be without.

Observation #2: SWIM is extremely alert and clear-headed. If it weren't for the wirey-ness, this combo would be damn near perfect as a study aid. Might still be, as focus is so good that the wired feeling can be put out of mind altogether when something else captures attention. This feels about identical to methamphetamine, and lacks much of the (normally severe) peripheral side effects of higher dose propylhexedrine such as high blood pressure, ultra-rapid heartrate and blinding headaches. SWIM is so wired though that his head is trembling a bit from neck tension.

Continuing observations... excellent combo for tweaking. The propyl is basically used once, while one can keep boosting a little bit at a time with MDPV.

[Nicaine]

Crap... SWIM has been up there for too long. This just keeps on & on, SWIM is tired of it but there's no sign as yet of a comedown (although the peak has most likely come and gone). Might be a matter of one substance blocking liver enzymes that clear out the other, and vice versa.

[Nicaine]

SWIM tried this combo again, once again with fabulous results. If SWIY ever gets the "more is better" syndrome, do more propylhexedrine. Never push the dosage of MDPV beyond comfortable, particularly where another stimulant is also involved. Think of the MDPV as enhancing the propylhexedrine and allowing a somewhat lesser dose (and thus less peripheral side effects).

[Nicaine]

SWIM did do some stims last night, including a good/legit combination (propylhexedrine + MDPV, a stimulating research chemical).

As the night wore on and the propylhexedrine wore off, SWIM got careless with his Ambien dosing. Far as he can tell, he's on about 60-70mg of Ambien, or was that 80 or 90mg, don't remember.... still quite awake, with no sign of stopping. Just when it looks like getting more fucked up isn't possible, Ambien takes it to the next level.

Then of course, SWIM feels fucked up but too sleepy/sedated. God forbid he might lay down in bed and sleep... hell's no. Where's the fucking fun in that? Entre MDPV!

Sniff some MDPV, plug some more Ambien, sniff more MDPV, plug more Ambien, sniff more MDPV, plug more Ambien, sniff more MDPV, plug more Ambien, sniff more MDPV, plug more Ambien...

Then the days got worse and worse
And now you see I've gone completely
out of my mind,

AND

They're coming to take me away,
Haha, they're coming to take me away,
Ho ho, hee hee, ha ha,
To the funny farm
Where Life is Beautiful all the time
And I'll be happy to see
Those Nice Young Men
In their Clean White Coats
And they're coming to take me AWAY,
HA HAAAAA

You know you laughed.
I HEARD you laugh, you laughed
And laughed and laughed
And then you left,
And now you know I'm Utterly Mad!

They're coming to take me away,
Haha, they're coming to take me away,
Ho ho, hee hee, ha ha,
To the Happy Home with Trees and Flowers
And Chirping Birds and basket weavers
Who sit and smile and
Twiddle their thumbs and toes
And they're coming to Take me Away,
HAHAAAAAAAAA

[Paracelsus]

Use descriptive thread title. Nice combo though