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Old 29-10-2006, 02:15
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Can SWIM turn his powder K into something he can inject intramuscularly?

Title says it all. SWIM tried insulfating the substance and his nose didn't agree with him.

What can SWIM do? He wants to do 100MG IM.
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Re: Can SWIM turn his powder K into something he can inject intramuscularly?

Yes, SWIS can dissolve it in water again to make a solution for injection. SWIS should first of all find out what the origins of his powdered ketamine is. Theres two options, either it was bought as ketamine HCl salt and was in powder/crystaline form by birth, or it was evaporated from vials with a fluid ketamine solution. If its the latter SWIS should additionally find out if his product has been purified after evaporation. The reason for all this is that is causes less of a shock to the body to inject a liquid with the same salt-concentration as the body is used to. SWIMs should always use isotonic (means 0,9%HCl/L H2O) sterile water for injections. The difference is, that if the powder has been evaporated from vials of liquid the salt will already be present in the powder and no more should be added (unless ofcourse as you may have already guessed, the product was purified after evaporation so the salt has been removed). So, if your ketamine was produced as powder HCl, you should disolve it in isotonic sterile water (if SWIMs local drugstore ain't keen on helping, purchasing some brands of contactlense storage solution should do the trick, just be careful some brands add other ingredients that you do not want to shoot, hydrogen peroxide for instance)
If it is evaporated liquid SWIS should just disolve it in demineralized water.
From SWIME you can disolve about 150mg/mL water, but SWIM usually goes by 100mg/mL, and be aware it may take a few minutes of stirring to make all the powder disolve so take your time.
An extra precaution that may be a good idea to follow, is to start by microwaving SWIMs powder for a minute at medium, it shouldn't harm the potency of SWISs product but would kill any eventual earth bacteria etc. One can never be too careful when injecting substances.

P.S. SWIM is a bit drunk atm so please feel free to request elaboration on any issues SWIM may have been a bit vague or hazy upon

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Old 29-10-2006, 19:21
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Re: Can SWIM turn his powder K into something he can inject intramuscularly?

Wow... Thanks a lot, SWITEF.

Judging by the burn that SWIM took on when he insulfated this substance he is guessing it to be the HCl salt. SWIM knows his provider quite well and will ask him to be sure, though.

Hopefully, SWIM will be picking up some isotonic sterile water and a rig from his friend with diabetes.

Best place to administer IM Ketamine shot? SWIM is guessing top the thigh, ass cheek, or soft part muscle over the right or left shoulder blade.
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Re: Can SWIM turn his powder K into something he can inject intramuscularly?

Highly recommend thigh - remember to pull back plunger to ascertain SWIY haven't hit a blood vessel. Hip is ok (not the ass-cheek), but there are risks of hitting a nerve. Back of triceps works very well, if SWIY has a research assistant.
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Re: Can SWIM turn his powder K into something he can inject intramuscularly?

SWIM is wondering about the same thing. He has some ketamine that was evaporated down from a vial. As a matter of fact, the crystals still seem a little damp if that makes any sense. A good microwaving might fix that though.

Ketamine IM was one of the first shots SWIM took but now that he is good at IV, SWIM is considering shooting k via IV to see what all the hype is about. IV is slightly more complicated but SWIM doesnt think it hurts as bad as IM.

SWIM recommends the thigh or deltoid for an IM injection and you will need a 100 unit or bigger syringe if you dilute the ketamine 100mg/ml. SWIM doesnt like doing two shots with ketamine IM because it stings like a bia bia sometimes.

Assuming the powder is not cut, you should not need a micron filter but SWIM has heard some people say it is necessary if the purity is questionable. SWIM knows his ketamine is pure but it definitely was not "purified" after being evaporated.

What is the best way to draw up the solution of ketamine dissolved in demineralized water? Should you just use cotton and a spoon or are there better ways to go about this? SWIM is thinking he could just mix a gram with 10ml of demineralized water and put it into a vial for easy storage and dosing.
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Re: Can SWIM turn his powder K into something he can inject intramuscularly?

SWIM microwaved the substance it turned much more like a crystal.
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Re: Can SWIM turn his powder K into something he can inject intramuscularly?

SWIM inslufated the substance states in this thread and it s excellent.
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Re: Can SWIM turn his powder K into something he can inject intramuscularly?

SWIM has micwaved and is about to be in K's grip of death. Good luck to you fella's...
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Re: Can SWIM turn his powder K into something he can inject intramuscularly?

So wait, can it be diluted in regular water too? What is it safe to shoot with?
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Re: Can SWIM turn his powder K into something he can inject intramuscularly?

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So wait, can it be diluted in regular water too? What is it safe to shoot with?
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SWIY can dissolve it in regular water but there is a high risk of infection on injection site as the tap/bottled water is nowhere near sterile and contains a lot of things which will cause infection.

It is highly recommended to use sterile water (water for injection or distilled water). Especially for IMing, cause it has a higher risk of infection.

SWIY should read one those safe injection guides available on the web.

There will be more info on this forum regarding Ketamine IM if SWIY UTFSE.
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Re: Can SWIM turn his powder K into something he can inject intramuscularly?

Thanks.
SWIM also heard about someone who offered K that looked liked bud. SWIM thought Ketamine was like a designer drug or something, is it possible that it is sold as a leaves? Or what could he have been talking about then?
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Re: Can SWIM turn his powder K into something he can inject intramuscularly?

Ketamine, in pure form, is a clear, or white, crystalline powder. It is usually supplied as an injectable liquid - veterinary or human grade - @50mg/cc.

Looked like bud?? Nope! Don't let SWIM go near that "source."
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Re: Can SWIM turn his powder K into something he can inject intramuscularly?

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Thanks.
SWIM also heard about someone who offered K that looked liked bud. SWIM thought Ketamine was like a designer drug or something, is it possible that it is sold as a leaves?
As Nagognog said ketamine should be white powder/crystals, so if it looks like bud then better to find another source. Ketamine is completely synthetic. (that means no ketamine found to be naturally made by any plant or something).

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Or what could he have been talking about then?
Too little info available but there can be almost any natural occuring substance in those leaves. But SWIM is sure it cant be ketamine as it is completely man-made (synthetic).

SWIY should do a real research about K before doing it, not just for knowing how it does look like, but also as Ketamine is a strong dissociative/psychedelic (especially if IMing). It can damage SWIY by giving SWIY an overwhelming experience which will just leave SWIY in a disoriented/confused/scared which perhaps is not what SWIY is looking for. SWIY should do a complete research and start with a low dosage (working SWIY's way up) to know what to expect.

My advice is to never let SWIY inject something that SWIY doesn't know what does it contains or SWIY can't measure it correctly, as it is very dangerous to inject unknown substance and/or dosage. (much more dangerous than using tap water for injection as injecting some drugs can be lethal)

IMO, SWIY should just find some bottles of Ketamine (better yet (S)-Ketamine) injection cause they are sealed, so SWIY can be sure about what he is going to inject. Plus SWIY can very precisely measure it by loading desired dosage to syringe and injecting it.

Wish SWIY a happy research. Be very careful!

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