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Brand New! Tapentadol! Swim gets to try!

There is a new opioid being tested, called Tapentadol, and Swim just got enrolled as a test subject. Swim starts Monday. If any of swiy have chronic back pain or osteoarthritis of the hip or knees, swiy may qualify too.
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Here is an excerpt of as press release on the drug:

"Tapentadol Would be the First New Molecular Entity in the Class of Oral Centrally Acting Analgesics to Enter Medical Practice in Over 25 Years
At the American Pain Society Meeting in San Antonio, Texas, Grünenthal GmbH presented positive results on preclinical and early clinical studies of Tapentadol (CG5503 / R331333).
Tapentadol is a novel centrally acting analgesic with a dual mode of action suited for the treatment of moderate-to-severe pain. "According to the latest study results Tapentadol demonstrates the efficacy of a strong centrally acting analgesic with markedly improved gastro-intestinal tolerability compared to standard opioid analgesics", explains Anton Hoos, MD, Vice President Global Development at Grünenthal. "At dosages with a comparable efficacy to morphine, tapentadol showed significantly less incidences of nausea and vomiting, side effects which often limit the use of opioids in pain patients", he continued.
"The data indicate that tapentadol has the potential to offer substantial benefits to pain patients by providing an excellent balance between efficacy and tolerability", commented Teun Grooters, MD, Vice President Global Marketing, Grünenthal.
This new strong analgesic is the latest innovation coming out of Grünenthal's R&D pipeline. It adds to the portfolio of pain products developed and marketed by Grünenthal, whose prime aim is to help physicians to improve pain management and patient care."

The full article can be found here:
http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/cgi/news/release?id=172601

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Re: Brand New! Tapentadol! Swim gets to try!

this swim is also enrolled in the study..has gone through all the pretesting and starts medication on thursday...was just looking for other swims who may be participating
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Re: Brand New! Tapentadol! Swim gets to try!

also wondering due to the nature of the 3 armed study if i would be able to tell which pills i recieved....the 3 arms are tapentadol, oxycodne hcl, and a placebo
for some reason. this swim will be able to id the placebo..due to the fact that it is SUGAR
but to differentiate between the other 2 might be a feat
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Re: Brand New! Tapentadol! Swim gets to try!

Well tapentadol is a norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor as well as a mu agonist, and it's described as "in between morphine and tramadol" in potency and "like tramadol" in effect. My guess from the literature out there is that it'll be quite a bit less euphoric than oxycodone.
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Re: Brand New! Tapentadol! Swim gets to try!

swim started the trial thursday. swim is sure it's not sugar, nor is it oxycodone. swim is satisfied with the effects on her back though. her back has hurt almost 10 years and to finally get some relief is a blessing. swim can finally enjoy playing on the floor with her 11 month old without severe pain! even more of a blessing is the fact that swim gets free dr visits and free meds for up to a year is she qualifies.
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Re: Brand New! Tapentadol! Swim gets to try!

in swim's packet of trial medication, there are 2 pills under each slot for morning and evening. one looks like a tylenol and the other looks like a fat grey gel cap. anyone else participate in a study like this and have a similar situation? i just don't understand why the 2 pills at every dose. after one weeks of the study, swim starts 4 pills at each dose(with an increase in mg.). swim likes her pills(most pills), but she also likes to know what her pills are. the study people had no clue, of course...
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Re: Brand New! Tapentadol! Swim gets to try!

Definately looks an interesting chemical.

SWIM imagines it will probably be scheduled or controlled if it comes to the market though (well these days) automatically. So unlike tramadol which is fairly easy to obtain through import in the UK [non-controlled, prescription only medicine, so minimal amounts for personal use is permitted/hard to prosecute] it will probably not be easy to obtain.
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Re: Brand New! Tapentadol! Swim gets to try!

how long do they give them to you and do you get paid?
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Re: Brand New! Tapentadol! Swim gets to try!

the study i have been participating in consists of 3 months..and i get paid every visit. the doctor in charge of the study i am in has opened my chart in his office so i will not have to pay the new chart fee of over 100 dollars. He is a pain specialist, and i won't need a referal from another doctor to see him after the study is over. The study has also paid for all the needed tests(mri, cat scan, etc.)..so that saves several hundred bucks...that's why i am being a labrat. I am willing to try anything to get my uninsured self the help i need with my chronic pain.
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Re: Brand New! Tapentadol! Swim gets to try!

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the study i have been participating in consists of 3 months..and i get paid every visit. the doctor in charge of the study i am in has opened my chart in his office so i will not have to pay the new chart fee of over 100 dollars. He is a pain specialist, and i won't need a referal from another doctor to see him after the study is over. The study has also paid for all the needed tests(mri, cat scan, etc.)..so that saves several hundred bucks...that's why i am being a labrat. I am willing to try anything to get my uninsured self the help i need with my chronic pain.
That's awesome, but only because this molecule is highly unlikely to have any really horrid/mysterious, ugly side effects. If it was some recombinant derived immune modulator, I'd be very worried, but with what your taking, and having paid for, your absolutely golden. Great job. Hey, are you able to compare between tramadol/tapentadol euphorically speaking? Which do you think is more euphoric/abusable? Best to you!
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Re: Brand New! Tapentadol! Swim gets to try!

so will you come out with any extra cash? or just the pills.
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Definately looks an interesting chemical.

SWIM imagines it will probably be scheduled or controlled if it comes to the market though (well these days) automatically. So unlike tramadol which is fairly easy to obtain through import in the UK [non-controlled, prescription only medicine, so minimal amounts for personal use is permitted/hard to prosecute] it will probably not be easy to obtain.
looks like a speeder...by the way ur one lucky sob
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so will you come out with any extra cash? or just the pills.
both...
and in relation to tramadol...well i would say the tramadol was more euphoric, but the tapentadol is better for the actual pain
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Re: Brand New! Tapentadol! Swim gets to try!

getting paid for getting high (or killing pain) is just pure awesomeness.
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Re: Brand New! Tapentadol! Swim gets to try!

i have been permitted into the year long trial of the medication...*claps*
after ten years of hellish pain...finally the help i have longed for! i guess good things do come to those who wait.
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Re: Brand New! Tapentadol! Swim gets to try!

i was admitted into the year long study wednesday. (swim mysteriously passed the drug test??) i am now on a higher dose of the study drug. my pain is finally tolerable! I was able to go on my first pain free and enjoyable shopping spree in years. Since it helps me so much, i keep waiting for the other shoe to drop...just that type of person.
i have the opportunity to up the dose to double my currrent dose in a week or two. overall i say it works quite well over 6 or 7 hours, the itch factor is zilch, and i have yet to experience any negative side effects.
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that's good man
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