Opinions - why drugs should be banned

[Busted]

yes, simply question, i'm looking for some opinions for my project
please help

[Akewstick]

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23708

My thoughts on the subjects are here.

I said thoughts, not opinions, I don't have the time for opinions.

[Riconoen {UGC}]

I hope you mean "why drugs SHOULDN'T be banned".

[Busted]

Originally Posted by Riconoen {UGC}

I hope you mean "why drugs SHOULDN'T be banned".

actually i mean why they shouldn't be legalized

[SPWIM]

Drugs should be banned so people can OD because of purity descrepancies, steal to afford the drug prices, hurt themselves by administering drugs incorrectly, use drugs irresponsibly through misinformation or lack of information and avoid an industry that provides taxes to the state and pleasure to the people.

Reputation Comments on this post:

	lol you did answer the man's question, and in style I might add
	good post
	You hit the nail on the head:)
	Nice answer. :P

[Omelet]

Originally Posted by Busted

actually i mean why they shouldn't be legalized

i doubt you'll find too many like opinions here... but nothing bad can come from asking i suppose...

What sort of project is this, by the way?

[Bajeda]

Originally Posted by Busted

actually i mean why they shouldn't be legalized

I could argue that point, but most of the supporting arguments that go with it are weak and not really worth the time in my opinion.

If your project entails throwing a bunch of BS together and packaging it then just go to the DEA website and I'm sure they have your answer.


If you at least look at it from an objective viewpoint (i.e. Should drugs be legal or not?) you will get more help here. Though seriously, with all the evidence there is out there historically, anthropologically, politically, pharmacologically, anecdotally, etc., that drugs would be legal to a fairly open degree.


A better question is why are they banned in the first place?

[Alfa]

You are calling them 'drugs' in general, which in itself implies lumping unharmful and utterly harmful psychoactives together. Your question is corrupt, so the answer to your question can only be corrupt. Other than that I'd go with SPWIM.

[Akewstick]

Because if they were legal, you parents probably would have done them, which would make them uncool.

[Omelet]

Originally Posted by Alfa

You are calling them 'drugs' in general, which in itself implies lumping unharmful and utterly harmful psychoactives together. Your question is corrupt

...to be fair, this is "Drugs-forum", "the international drugs community"...

[Alfa]

And for exactly that reason.
I think the essence of this problem is that the mass does not understand. There is no differentiation between drugs. Every time the term drugs instead of the exact word for the drug is written in the papers, this is a crime against humanity IMO. People are kept dumb and assume use of drugs will lead to a live as junkies they see on the streets. I can only hope this site makes a difference in that process. It is an important motivation for me.

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It is an important motivation of mine to....I hope it does make a difference even in the slightest degree

[Nature Boy]

Originally Posted by Busted

actually i mean why they shouldn't be legalized

The main reason that springs to mind is upsetting the balance of global economic power. Another is fear and close-mindedness. Another is because certain people should never touch drugs, therefore NO-ONE is allowed touch them. Another is religion and judgmental attitudes, superiority complex. None of these reasons apply to the average individual who can enjoy outlawed substances in the privacy of their own homes but one must realise that every crooked politician out there has their own agendas when it comes to this issue. Another huge one, and I'll leave it at that, is unwillingness to change. If a politician steps out and announces he wishes to change drug policy he will be fed to the lions. Think of it as a bunch of little boys in primary school. The first boy who shows fondness to girls will be seen as something of a weirdo. Eventually, due to hormonal impulses, most will change. Unfortunately in the case of drugs, people can shelter themselves away from them and denounce them while they pop their sleeping pills and drink themselves to death like the hypocrites they are. [/rant]

[Nagognog2]

This person is using an infamous proxy server. I'll bet this is another of the Singapore "students" looking for more reasons to whip their people bloody for a joint of pot. Or littering for that matter.

[thundercles]

Originally Posted by SPWIM

Drugs should be banned so people can OD because of purity descrepancies, steal to afford the drug prices, hurt themselves by administering drugs incorrectly, use drugs irresponsibly through misinformation or lack of information and avoid an industry that provides taxes to the state and pleasure to the people.

All that is happening now, many of those problems would be solved by legalization. There would be no purity descrepencies with legalization, there would be standardization of purity, drug prices would be lower when legalized, means to administer drugs properly would be readily available, proper information about the drugs would be right there on the packaging (probably along with a surgeon general's warning), and what's wrong with pleasure to the people and tax money to the state?

[Bajeda]

Originally Posted by thundercles

All that is happening now, many of those problems would be solved by legalization. There would be no purity descrepencies with legalization, there would be standardization of purity, drug prices would be lower when legalized, means to administer drugs properly would be readily available, proper information about the drugs would be right there on the packaging (probably along with a surgeon general's warning), and what's wrong with pleasure to the people and tax money to the state?

Thats the idea. That post was pure sarcasm, in case you didn't realize.

[izzy31]

Most drugs are banned already, so it would make more sense if you project was about why some PERSCRIPTION drugs should be banned.

[mick mouse]

what, exactly, are you speaking of when you say "drugs"? are you talking about NSAID's which cause liver damage? How about Chemotherapy, which destroys everything in the hope of killing a few cells (remarkably like George Bush's policy in Iraq!), are you talking about herbal drugs, such as marijuana and opium which have been around for thousands of years and have an extremely varied medical use. Are you speaking of the adrenalin injected into a persons heart after they have coded and brings them back to life? Are you perhaps speaking of substances that society has not found a reasonable method of taxing and therefore wish to deny their use to responsible citizens? how about religion, it was once said that religion was the opiate of the masses. Do we confine ourselve to chemicals or include states of mind (which are often produced by chemicals), do we ban "drugs" which occur naturally in the human body or just the ones that are added to the body after the fact? Your question seems to be designed, not as you say "to help on a project", but rather to sow dissention and confusion.

Or perhaps SWIM is wrong.

Care to comment?

[radiometer]

Originally Posted by Nagognog2

This person is using an infamous proxy server. I'll bet this is another of the Singapore "students" looking for more reasons to whip their people bloody for a joint of pot. Or littering for that matter.

I have a question for "busted": What made you decide to post this question on what is essentially a pro-drug discussion forum instead of a place like freevibe or theantidrug.com?

[acolon_5]

You know, it seems to me that every once in a while some putz just likes to stir things up. Why in the f#@K would someone come onto a site such as this and ask a loaded, very generic question that obviously goes against the beliefs of the majority, that they know they are most likely going to get flamed for?

The criminalization of drugs is an atrocity to mankind in general. Seriously I am sick and tired of being told what I can and cannot do with my own body. It's mine, all mine and you can't have it! Prohibition didn't work, the war on drugs didn't work, DARE is a complete failure (actually increasing the amount of use), and still billions are spent to combat drugs.

Therefore, “Busted”, it is my belief that every reason to keep “drugs” (a blanket term that is too broad to have any real meaning) illegal has 10 reasons to decriminalize it.

Hope that helps your “project”

[izzy31]

Yeah man, its natural herb. something like that was made by destiny, because there's no way a plant so effective and sweet was just an accident.

[Riconoen {UGC}]

Asking why you should ban drugs in a drug users forum is like asking why the raiders suck on raidernation.com. This whole topic is obviously just a bad attempt at getting us pissed off, also known as a:

[stoneinfocus]

The main reason is, that it would be a step to equality, sharing knowledge about almost anything with everybody, the "drugs" and their use being a metaphor for all things in live, and a connection to [_again_] virtually everything our surrounding nature (resp. our enviroment as a whole) has to offer and to make use of it by one very own means with the help of todays achievements of modern technique and knowledge.

More equality means less power to the previledged, which throw out people while making huge amounts of money, holding monopoles for substances or technuques and
using the power of the state/our society to defend those monopoles.

In turn the state has a regime that will address to the conventional minded people, that in turn will elect them, which is great, ´cause with money, power and monopoles you can actually do anything what you want, while repressing any other, that you´re keeping dump and suspensed that way, or imprisoned by coworking politicians and laws and even brainwashing the media by this way ´cause it´s not what´s up it´s what sells what´s up and not the much too complicated opinion of a dedicated team of journalists, willing to risk their lives for the truth and the _one_ phot of truth or story.

those kind of people can be sorted out easily cause they´re recognized easily and then sorted out, whilst he powers already have the means and people which wil do so for money, idealism or anything else.. fear!

Same applies to the fight-struggles between different countries... etc. ...

[stoneinfocus]

drugs will help learnign by directly impoving the learning curve and indiscretly by the experience itself and learning to make use of the experience.

this would lead to a trend of more humanity cause that´s what it is and which is counteracting the machinery of todays system of fear and demonizing rebels and
mobilizing the mob against them, desolidarizing the people and forcing them into their sytem of power fear and money for the powers.

we would adapt to a freer way of living and a more intense way of living and working by increasing the effectivenes for our living instead that of the machinery of the powers vice versa.

funny thing is, it could all be adapted to todays system and capitalism would work greatestens if there wouldn´t be the "human" factor of greed, priviledge and envy and the establishement(so to think some neurotics and mental illnesses are of advantage in some leading places of todays society. like a neurotic with varying IQs for setain positions of importance).

[Benga]

my thoughts on the subjects :

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1262

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12055

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12524

all the best
b

[Trebor]

With drug use comes a certain level of chicness in that as they are illegall, the user is seen as a rebel. If they were to be legalized, that chicness would be lost.