Culture - Why is LSD so rare these days?

I live In and can not find any acid. Is this the same with other states???Edited by: BA

[XOOX]

Man here in England, im getting shit loads of the stuff, i feel sorry for ya actually, i mean i don't even like the stuff much! But the again the trips going round now are pretty shit man....like white doves....

im here in rockford, il.....its dry here too. My thought is that their was a big drug "king-pin" who got too big and someone narced him out. Now all of his "flow" has stopped. It was around like 3 years ago and then poof!! I dont know about you guys but i cant wait till some cid is back in town

[str8ballin]

If I could get my hands on acid I would be a rich man.Alot of ppl say they can get it but they never do.I've pretty much given up.If only the ingredients were published somewhere and the chemicals were avaliable,then it'd be possible to make your own shit.You used to be able to sneak into the college andgo in the chemisty lab and steal the shit you neededbut they started cracking down and locking it all up cuz kids were makin acid with it.

[ThaNewJimJones]

i live in tha bay area, Cali and cant get shit here i've asked everybody i hella want to try acid but i cant get any and i heard it's hard to make

[sands of time]

I knew someone who had a meth type lab in they're basement and they made acid all the time, tons of it. It was a very well kept secret but eventually the cops found out. They found it about a year ago and a few people were able to get away before the cops showed up.

[extulas]

I'm from CT and have a neighbor who use to make it until the demand pretty much diminished in 1993, He hasnt started back up since and wont. However the acid in CT and RI now came from new york back in December almost January, 10 vials were sold to select people along with 7 (700 blotter) sheets - 2 broken up into 10's and 5's - The other 4 sheets were sold in CT and 1 in RI. As soon as these are gone it wont be back for probablly 3 years. Its out there just look and know the right people.

[themadreason]

There is no acid here, but I have connects to every hard drug known to man. What the f**k? I can get coke if i wanted it, and weed is xxx dollars an ounce, but acid is unheard of. I thought it was just texas... thatbecause of our closeness to mexico all of the black market shit pushed out local dealers uninterested in dealing hard shit. That this is not the case is distrubing. A sign of the times. people dont want acid and revolution man, theyjust want to get f**ked up

[Psilocybe S.]

LBC = Long Beach City, born and raised. But now I live in Central Cali, and there's no acid here. I've heard alot of people say they can get it in NJ, so I believe thats where im headed. Also, does anyone know about LSD in amsterdam? Is it sold in coffee shops like pot? I dont think so, because only a small amount of pot is allowed on each person(like an 8th), and somehow i doubt LSD would be sold like this, but if it is, neat.

[Alfa]

It's not available trough the coffeeshops, but you can buy shrooms in the smartshops though.

Wow, im moving to amsterdam when i get older. And is the pot you buy in coffeshops good stuff? I live in monterey county, i dont know if its dry here or not.





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[Pinkavvy]

It is all over the northwestern states right now ... especially in seattle

[Mike177]

In Dallas, Texas its not something you come across often, i have been able to get it twice in the past year.

[epsilon's barn]

To all of you complaining that you can't get ahold of acid, unless things were different in the 90s (when I took time off from tripping), acid has always been difficult to get ahold of because you have to have some sort of connection with the people who make it. LSD isn't like cocaine, heroin, or pot in that its simple to get from plants. It's not like meth in that the chemistry involved is simple.


People who made acid even back in the 50s/60s had vast knowledge of chemistry and that's how it has always been. You won't find acid on any loser that hangs around the drug zones of your city. If you do, most likely its bunk (or stolen). Most of the acid-making "families" are here in Nothern California, I can't remember the number that it is at. Something like 14. Yeah, not a lot.


However, LSD can easily be mass produced so you don't need a thousand people making it to get any decent supply across the country. If you're that desparate for acid you need to find friends who have done it and find out where they have gotten it. If that doesn't work just sit and be patient and sometimes the opportunity will present itself.


LSD has the potential to be the most profitable drug if produced properly. You think people who know chemistry don't see all the drug boards bitching about a lack of acid in the USA? Of course they do. And it won't be long before they finally buckle at the amount of profit they can make by making and distributing LSD. Money is what drives most people to make drugs anyway. Going rate in the USA is $9-10/hit. That's more than a $5/hit increase since I last did acid in the 80s. People want that money so they will make acid.


If the drug trends have taught me anything, the acid drought will end either this year or next year (since at least in San Francisco it started in 2001 ) and then we will see the supply increase. If you think now is bad, you must forget 1993 when the huge acid factory in NorCal was busted. I didn't see acid for 3 years after that happened.

[jarka]

Ecstasy is taking over the world.

Quite dry here too.. But still - I can get it

[Bodhisattva500]

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHERE ALL THE ACID IS CHECK OUT THIS SITE!!!!!. I disappeared from indiana a couple of years ago and i was wondering where it went until i found this. hte dea busted a huge lab. This guy studied under alexander shulgin at harvard and they were suppliing 95 percent of americas lsd. The dea wiped out a whole drugs supply with this caseI dont know how the case is going but you can donate money to these martyrs if you want. sounds like you can still get it in other countries still. I WANT SOME LSD DAMNT


Who wants to make some money?? i cordially invite any foreigners with access to acid to buy as much as possible,come to america get rich and live the american dream. We make some mean hamburgers her ya knowEdited by: Alfa

[xergotx]

bodhisattva,

im sure everyone on this forum is equally eager to come in contact with some acid. im also sure that anyone who checks this thread on a regular basis already knows about the pickard/apperson bust. in other words "weve known that for 2 years now!!"

anyway i had it once about a year ago, and i was surprised at the price and potency because it was only half a hit and it cost XXX ufking nuts dude.. i tripped my balls off, but since then have done nothing but shrooms, which my stomach cant take much more of. i either need to find a different strain or start my own lab dammit. id definetly fuck something up though knowing myself as well as i do.

[Bodhisattva500]

well excuse my incompetence its just that nobody seems to have mentioned anything about the bust when complaining about the lack of it. I got some about a year ago when my friend found a half sheet he had forgotten about in a photo album. A little bit also came around my city about a year and a half ago for about a month. It was these awesome buddhas that were really good. I ended up buying it constantly cause i knew it wouldnt last. The buddhas were 10 dollars a hit

[zingos]

man.... all I can say is I leave near San Francisco</span> and I can't get it. that can't be good.



The DEA really took care of business here in the west.

[Alfa]

March 31, 2003

PICKARD AND APPERSON CONVICTED OF LSD CHARGES
LARGEST LSD LAB SEIZURE IN DEA HISTORY


Special Agent in Charge Stephen Delgado, Drug Enforcement Administration, San Francisco Field Division, and United States Attorney Eric Melgren, District of Kansas, announced today that Bay Area residents William Leonard Pickard, 57, Mill Valley, California, and Clyde Apperson, 47, Sunnyvale, California, were found guilty today, following an eleven week jury trail of one count of conspiracy to manufacture and distribute more than 10 grams of LSD from August 1999 through November 2000 and one count of possession with the intent to distribute more than 10 grams of LSD on November 6, 2000.


Melgren stated that according to court testimony, this was the largest LSD lab seizure ever made by the Drug Enforcement Administration. DEA agents seized approximately 41.3 kilograms (90.86 pounds) of LSD, approximately 23.6 kilograms (51.92 pounds) of iso-LSD, a by-product from the manufacture of LSD.


Further trial evidence established that in the history of DEA there have only been four seizures of complete LSD labs and three of these seizures involved Packard and Apperson including a lab in Mountain View, California in 1998, a lab in Oregon in 1996, and this lab in Wamego, Kansas


According to court testimony, on October 31, 2000, DEA agents conducted a search of a silo site near Wamego, Kansas, and found a LSD lab packed in storage boxes. On November 6, 2000, Pickard and Apperson were moving the illegal lab when they were stopped by the Kansas Highway Patrol. Apperson was arrested driving the rental truck containing the lab. Pickard, who was driving a Buick LeSabre, fled on foot and was arrested the next day at a farm outside Wamego. Fourteen canisters of a chemical required to produce LSD valued at over $1,000,000 were found at the missile silo. According to court testimony, Pickard and Apperson previously manufactured LSD in Santa Fe, New Mexico, where every five weeks the lab produced about 2.2 pounds of LSD, approximately 10 million doses that cost less than one cent a dose to produce and would sell for as much as $10 a dose. According to court testimony, the LSD was shipped to California and later to Europe for distribution.


Pickard and Apperson each face a minimum of ten years and a maximum of life in federal prison without parole. Sentencing is scheduled for August 8, 2003 at 9:00 a. m. in Kansas. Pickard remains in federal custody and Apperson was remanded to federal custody today.


The DEA San Francisco office initiated this case and provided crucial assistance throughout the trial. SAC Delgado stated: "The investigators in this case displayed extraordinary tenacity and dedicated long hours away from home and their families. LSD, like all illegal drugs, are a threat to our children and our communities in the San Francisco Bay Area. The San Francisco office will continue its relentless efforts to protect the Nation from the dangers posed by drug traffickers."


United States Attorney Eric Melgren stated: "This is just one example of the fine work of the Drug Enforcement Administration, in cooperation with other law enforcement agencies, in the continuing fight against illegal drugs. We are pleased to have led the effort to protect our citizens against the dangers of LSD by this significant disruption in the nationwide supply of this drug.


SAC Delgado wishes to publicly thank United States Attorney Eric Melgren for his leadership in the prosecution of this case and all the local law enforcement agencies that helped us bring this case to today's conclusion.
Pickard And Apperson Sentenced On LSD Charges
Largest LSD Lab Seizure In DEA History

William J. Renton, Jr., Special Agent in Charge of the St. Louis Division, Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), and United States Attorney Eric Melgren announced today that William Leonard Pickard, 58, Mill Valley, California, and Clyde Apperson, 48, Sunnyvale, California, were sentenced this afternoon by U.S. District Judge Richard D. Rogers. Pickard was sentenced to life imprisonment without parole. Apperson was sentenced to 30 years imprisonment without parole.


Melgren said that Pickard and Apperson were found guilty on March 31, 2003, following an eleven week jury trial of one count of conspiracy to manufacture and distribute more than 10 grams of LSD from August 1999 through November 2000 and one count of possession with the intent to distribute more than 10 grams of LSD on November 6, 2000.



Melgren stated that according to court testimony, this was the single largest seizure of an operable LSD lab in the history of the Drug Enforcement Administration. DEA agents seized approximately 41.3 kilograms (90.86 pounds) of LSD, approximately 97.5 kilograms (214.5 pounds) of lysergic acid, a precursor to LSD, approximately 23.6 kilograms (51.92 pounds) of iso-LSD, a by-product from the manufacture of LSD and 19 kilograms (41.8 pounds) of ergocristine, a precursor to LSD with the ability to create an additional 12.4 kilograms (27.28 pounds of LSD.

Further trial evidence established that in the history of DEA there have only been four seizures of complete LSD labs and three of these seizures involved Pickard and Apperson including a lab in Mountainview, California in 1998, a lab in Oregon in 1996, and this lab in Wamego, Kansas.

Melgren said that according to court testimony, on October 31, 2000, DEA agents conducted a search of a silo site near Wamego, Kansas, and found a LSD lab packed in storage boxes. On November 6, 2000, Pickard and Apperson were moving the illegal lab when they were stopped by the Kansas Highway Patrol. Apperson was arrested driving the rental truck containing the lab. Pickard, who was driving a Buick LeSabre, fled on foot and was arrested the next day at a farm outside Wamego. Fourteen canisters of a chemical required to produce LSD valued at over $1,000,000 were found at the missile silo. According to court testimony, Pickard and Apperson previously manufactured LSD in Santa Fe, New Mexico, where every five weeks the lab produced about 2.2 pounds of LSD, approximately 10 million doses that cost less than one cent a dose to produce and would sell for as much as $10 a dose. According to court testimony, the LSD was shipped to California and later to Europe for distribution.



The site of the LSD lab was a former missile silo

Melgren commended the excellent work of the Drug Enforcement Administration, DEA Task Force, and Kansas Highway Patrol with special recognition to Special Agent Karl Nichols, DEA, Special Agent Roger Hanzlik, DEA Task Force, Ralph Sorrell, Leavenworth Police Department/DEA Task Force, and O.C.D.E.T.F. in this investigation and Assistant U.S. Attorney Greg Hough in this prosecution. O.C.D.E.T.F., Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force, is a Congressionally funded task force with multi-agency federal, state and local members dedicated to investigating and prosecuting large-scale narcotics and money laundering cases nationally.




During the case, agents seized highly sophisticated chemical glasswae required to manufacture LSD

"Our nation's war on drugs is not limited to major metropolitan areas or border states. Manufacturers and traffickers of illegal drugs are increasingly moving to less populated areas in an attempt to avoid detection," Melgren said. "This case clearly demonstrates that moving such illegal activity to Kansas is a mistake. Due to the cooperative efforts of our federal, state and local law enforcement agencies, they will be caught. Due to the commitment of my office, they will be aggressively prosecuted. Due to Kansans' common sense and respect for the law, those who are guilty of such activity will be convicted. And due to the federal sentencing guidelines, they will be sentenced to significant time in prison. The message from this case is clear: drug dealers and manufacturers may not consider Kansas a place where they may get away with their illegal activies.



The decontmination process following the seizure of the LSD lab

DEA Special Agent in Charge William J. Renton, Jr. stated, "the sentencing of William Pickard and Clyde Apperson brings to conclusion their significant role in the international production and distribution of LSD. These defendants were proven, by overwhelming evidence, to be responsible for the illicit manufacture of the majority of the LSD sold in this nation. The proof of the significance of these prosecutions and convictions lies in the fact that LSD availability in the United States was reduced by 95 % in the two years following their arrest. The Drug Enforcement Administration is proud to have led this historic investigation, and to have had the close cooperation of our partners in state and local law enforcement. I congratulate U.S. Attorney Eric Melgren and his staff for the outstanding prosecution conducted in this matter."

[OneDiaDem]

The really sad part of this whole thing, or what I heard, was Pickard could have gotten away had he not crawled up into a combine tractor and fell asleep. Supposedly, the farmer found him there the next morning, and called police. Pity. It may take a few years for the next bio scientist to come along who can take over where these people left off. Its only a matter of time. Patience, yup. I got lots, and have no doubt our next lab man is in the making.</font>

[digitalraver]

i live in the biggest city in the great usa new york city and its dry also. its prolly due to the kansas bust a few years back. have no fear it is coming back besides the police cant take shrooms the naturaly produce babyyyyy

[digitalraver]

btw the reason the northwest has ttrip is cuz there is a new lad in place that is dark 6 months of the year and light 6 months of the year...hope know what state that is...

[Random]

Originally Posted by digitalraver

btw the reason the northwest has ttrip is cuz there
is a new lad in place that is dark 6 months of the year and light 6
months of the year...hope know what state that is...

I live in nyc and can get acid, and the acid is not being supplied from
the east coast to an earlier post. You need to know youre connections
now a days. Its in all 50 states right now and acid was pretty easy to
get anywhere in ny back in the early 90s

[lysergic_lifestyle]

I think some of the reasons why its so rare is because xtc and perscription drugs have gotten really popular, most of the people who knew how to make good acid are now in jail and as with every generation there comes new drugs so the demand for lsd has gone down along with the amount of lsd users. not to mention most of the acid now isnt as good as it used to be since alot of the chemists dont have as much experience as the old ones did. SWIM is just happy that he knows the right people.