Inhaling - Holding Nitrous in the lungs

[Akewstick]

I've UTFSE, with no results, sorry if it's already been covered, it's a pretty difficult thing to search for, i really have looked hard for threads on this topic.

SWIM always does his nitrous from 8g caps cracked through a cream siphon or cracker into a balloon, he inhales in an out of the balloon. SWIM likes to think he's quite talented when it comes to not letting any nos get away, and getting the most out of a cap.

He was just thinking, he always inhales and exhales deeply and pretty slowly, but would he be better breathing in, then holding for as long as he could, and then breathing out, back into the balloon?

Another thing, the more SWIM does nos, the more he finds himself able to breathe in and out of balloons without letting any nos escape, if, hypothetically, he did this perfectly (i.e. having a balloon full of only nos and no air, and breathing in and out of the balloon, without letting any nos escape, and without letting any air in), would he be able to breathe in and out of the balloon forever, and keep getting high of it's contents?

This seems highly unlikely, so here's the next question:

How long before breathing in and out of the balloon becomes pointless because all the nos has been absorbed into SWIM's lungs and what's left in the balloon is, well, what is it? Will SWIM ever reach a point where he's breathed in all the goodness from his balloon and his breathing in and out is pointless?

SWIM's tied himself up in a big knot.

I'm so confused on SWIM's behalf.

[Fantasian]

This thread should help you on your travels.

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7963

[dnb warrior]

SWIM isnt 100% sure but he usually finds that doing lots of very quick breaths in and out of the balloon gets him more fucked up than slow, deep breaths (although usually does a few deep breaths to start with to use up most of the balloon). as for how long you could keep breathing in and out before all the nitrous has been absorbed, well SWIM thinks a good point to stop is when the muscles in the hand involuntarily relax and the remainder of the balloon balloon goes flying across the room but SWIM is too mashed to care.


if SWIakewstick is saying he can continue huffing the balloon even when he is already completely wasted from it, SWIM thinks you are wasting your time and good NOS, he thinks its time to let go in both the literal and metaphorical senses!

[geezaman]

The very quick breaths SWIdnb mentions as getting him more fucked could just be the action of hyperventilation couldn't it?, SWIM has got very lite nos like effects from blowing up an air bed in a hurry. In SWIMs opinion holding it long is better because it allows longer time for gas exchange also if going really techie on it you are not moving as much (diaphragm) so wont use up the oxygen from your blood so quickly, also the risks of watching your balloon circling the room is lowered with the less time the nos spends within the balloon. the balloon is slowly converted from pure nos to nos and carbon dioxide and other gasses the body expels through the lungs.

Out of interest does any one know how long nos take to exit the body and how it does so, is it removed via gas exchange in the lungs or through the skin or how?/

[Akewstick]

Alright, let SWIM rephrase his question:

If i breathe into a balloon continuously, it will eventually be no longer nos, it will be recycled shit like CO2 and such like, how long before this happens?

How long before breathing more from the balloon is pointless?

[El Calico Loco]

I'm curious about this as well. I've read several things that suggest N2O is not metabolized by the body at all - that it goes into one's lungs, up to the brain, then back down and out the lungs unchanged. I'm not sure about that, however: the only reference I can find at the moment is this:

http://www.vetequip.com/knowledge/kn...m-Inh_Anes.htm

Even so, I've also read (somewhere...sigh) that nitrous needs between 20 and 50 percent oxygen to be effective. Less than twenty percent O2, and it's simple asphyxiation; more than fifty, and the nitrous is ineffective. So the oxygen you take in before or with the nitrous will be converted into CO2 and go into the balloon. Breathing this in will cause blood CO2 levels to rise, leading to air hunger.

(I think this is the reason that breathing a pure gas such as nitrous or helium for long periods of time is dangerous - without rising CO2 levels, you won't realize that you're becoming deprived of oxygen. Of course, oxygen deprivation can lead to it's own sort of "trip" - like huffing gasoline - but not a safe one.)

Swim once tried inhaling, holding for as long as possible, then exhaling into the balloon, then taking a normal breath of air, and then repeating until tired of it. He didn't feel like he got any farther than he would with other methods (simple holding or hyperventilation); it was like a less intense experience with a longer duration.

As to the dangers of nitrous, I think one is safe so long as one takes a B12 supplement at the end of the fun. You might also get some weird-smelling gas, as N2O can fill empty pockets in the GI tract, but I think that's harmless unless one has serious GI issues.


ECL