Wild Cucumber

[DJ]

You guys were so quick to close the thread. This may be of interest to others.

There may even be someone out there that knows something more about an extraction from this wild cucumber, ...as strange as it sounds.

here's an excerpt from one report I found: (as it states, the substance hadn't been determined, though it could possibly be lysergic acid amides at work [i bolded this part]

As for the entheogen review article, it was in acrobat reader format (pdf.) so I couldn't cut and paste. But you could find it by googling.


WILD CUCUMBER
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(Echinocystis lobata)

In the early l960s several children in Ojai, California, began conversing with
nonexistent persons and showing other symptoms of severe hallucination. It was
learned that they had been nibbling on the seeds of wild cucumbers. This low
crawling vine of the melon family can be found growing among thickets along
the coastal slopes of California, Washington and Oregon, as well as in many
other places throughout the U.S. It has greenish-white flowers and a spiny,
green, oblong fruit containing four large seeds. There is no information
available at the present time as to the exact chemical nature of the
hallucinogens in wild cucumber (possibly lysergic acid amides), but they are
most effective when the seed is not quite ripe, around middle or late spring.
One seed should be a good experimental starting dose. Birds eat the seed for
food without any harmful results, but since its chemistry is still unknown so
are its possible dangers. The trip lasts for eight to ten hours and no harmful
side effects have been noted.

[grecian]

if swiy believes this swiy should get hold of some and post his experience. I've had a search and the article above is quoted on a number of sites, both in english and french and im sure swiy could find a vendor online.

[Alfa]

Wild Cucumber AKA Manroot:
Marah oreganus was used by the Native Americans for various problems. The Chinook made a poultice from the gourd. The Squaxin mashed the upper stalk in water to dip aching hands. The Chehalis burned the root and mixed the resulting powder with bear grease to apply to scrofula sores. The Coast Salish made a decoction to treat venereal disease, kidney trouble and scrofula sores.

Seeds of Marah fabaceus have been reported as being hallucinogenic. The tubers of M. fabaceus and M. macrocarpus contain saponins which can act as a natural soap but are toxic if ingested.

Like many medicinal plants, at least some Marah species are toxic and deaths have been reported from ingesting them.