thought maybe we could have one of these like there is in the XTC section. Sticky?
Please share all knowledge and questions on the basics of piperazines
SWIM will start. Common recreational piperazines include BZP (benzylpiperazine) and TFMPP (Tri-flouro-methly-phenyl-piperazine), though there are many other types. Unfortunately, it seems that many legal piperazine products do not specify the mg amount the product contains, nor does it always specify which piperazines it contains, instead listing in the ingredients "piperazine blend".
There are reports that piperazine pills cause nasty hangovers, and the consistency from pill to pill, even from the same brand, at least in terms of mg content can vary as much as any illegal street drug
Little research has been done on piperazines as far as human consumption goes. But millions of piperazine containing pills have been consumed. As far as SWIM knows, one death has been reported, and this death also involved MDMA
So please, under no circumstance should SWIY feed their monkey piperazines with ecstasy
It is important to stay hydrated whilst on piperazines. Drink lots of juice or water. Avoid alcohol
. SWIM hears that can greatly increase the unpleasantness of the hangover.
SWIM also knows individuals who suffer no hangover from piperazine products and swear by them.
SWIM knows little about combos but hopes to learn more. One thing SWIM does know however, is that marijuana
goes very nicely with BZP/TFMPP. A puff after taking pills and waiting for the come up, then a puff during waves of euphoria
seems to potentiate said waves and make for a more enjoyable experience overall.
Methods of ingestion: The most common, and likely safest, is oral. SWIM knows individuals who have tried snorting
the pill contents. They reported brief, intense pain, worse than anything they've ever snorted, even crushed E pills, followed by a quicker onset of euphoria than one would achieve by oral ingestion. They did not (and probably could not, due to pain) insnufflate whole pills, just a small bump, and then swallowed the rest. SWIM has heard of smoking the product, but knows little about it. SWIM recalls a report, perhaps on erowid, about a person who tried smoking it in a pipe, a bit at a time, and felt great and did it constantly, habitually for hours at a party, and felt like an ice addict
, and said she doesn't recommend it to anyone. She claims she doesn't usually have any problems with drugs
in terms of habits or addictions but found she couldn't stop herself. Strange.
Okay, hope this gets the ball rolling.