MDMA + MDA - a good combo?

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The "top notch pill" mitsubitchi - which is a lot counterfeited - is supposed to contain both MDMA and MDA. But is it anyone who has tried to combine those two? And was it better/worse/different than doing one at a time?

[ramjet]

SWIM hasn't personally taken this combo intentionally (might have done without knowing it) but his friend in Australia says it's his favourite combo. He says it produces an intense empathogenic, loved -up high with a trippy edge that makes him have loads of epiphonies and think he can solve all of the world's problems. People's experiences with combos vary dramatically though, and this isn't taking into account set or setting, which can have a huge effect on the experience. The only down side is that the comedown is supposed to be worse than it is with MDMA alone (which SWIM finds is hardly worth calling a comedown - more of a gentle easing back to reality). Make sure SWIY has plenty of weed.

[stoneinfocus]

It´s like ramjet said but the effects vary from dose to dose, like the ratio is messed up ... tolerance comes to mind so alternating MDA and MDMA might be a good advise if one is seeking for morethan one buzz in a week.

Come down was very easy and in fact I felt very good coming down, also ... much better than if I weren´t coming down ... was only one dose at once and several weeks between.

A very good exprience all together only thing was coming up was a bit unconfortable the first 5-15 minutes but this is with nearly every drug in swim, except non-hallucinogenic stimulants and most opiates and LSD.

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[KomodoMK]

This is another one of those which can't really be answered in a genereal sense because everyone is different.

From SWIMs point of view it is a good combo, but only if you like that trippy edge. SWIM has remembered 2 particular instances where it has been a fun combo both quite similar.

When SWIM was lying down at 5am on one occasion the became a car in burnout 3 and was racing around circuits as if he was the car, drifting at real high speeds. This was an amazing feeling. Another time it was quite similar but it was playing counter-strike as if he was actually in the game. Both times these were closed eyes visual when trying to sleep but still rather fucked. Both of these seem to have been because SWIM was playing a lot of the game(s) at the time it took place. This was also on pretty high doses of each.

Anyone else ever experienced anything like that?

[Powder_Reality]

SWIM has had a very similar experience to that of yours KomodoMK. He is 99% positive that the pills he took were MDA, but that's just an educated guess from the effects that he experienced. SWIM is too lazy to write out the trip report again, but here's a copy+paste of it:

SWIM was going to start a new thread about his last MDxx experience, but this one is pretty much perfect for it. SWIM's experience went something like this:

SWIM took one pill on an empty stomach and could feel the effects coming on after about 45 minutes. It started out with a very pure MDMA come-up feeling, but about an hour or so after taking it, it started to feel a little different. It felt more "animated" for lack of a better word. The social and talkative effects of MDMA were not really present, and he felt a little more "mentally sober" than on MDMA. He also felt less relaxed than on MDMA, but he still felt very happy. He took one more pill 1.5 hour after taking the first one. This is when the effects really started to kick in.

About 2 hours after dropping the first pill, SWIM's pupils start to wiggle much more than on pure MDMA. It was like they were fluttering all over SWIM's eyeball. SWIM has always enjoyed nystagmus from MDMA, and he really enjoyed this effect. SWIM noticed that he also had a much more intense body high then on MDMA. SWIM has never really liked dancing on MDMA, but he really enjoyed dancing on these pills with the insane eye wiggling and body rushes. These effects lasted for about another 2-3 hours. During this time SWIM did not feel very talkative or social, just really "fucked up". He did feel happy during this time, just not the usual "social happy" that he gets from MDMA. He also noticed that there were a few visuals present, but mostly just patterns in his field of vision. The effects from these pills were very intense; SWIM sometimes felt as though he needed to sit down for a while because he felt as though he may pass out.

When he started coming down, he didn't feel a great desire to do more. When he comes down off of MDMA, he usually feels a strong desire to do more. With these pills the desire was present, but not as intense. He turned on the TV and laid down on his floor for about an hour. He noticed that his body temperature was quite a bit higher than usual, which made him a little anxious. For about an hour, he laid on his floor listening to music with his eyes closed. During this time he had a bit of a head trip, worrying about his body temperature. This head trip feeling doesn't usually happen to SWIM on MDMA, unless the dosage is quite high. It was more of a psychedelic introspective feeling. During this time SWIM also experienced some closed eye visuals. He would visualize a few different scenarios that he would get lost in, and then snap out of. It was like watching dreams get played out in front of his eyelids.

Finally, SWIM fell asleep for about 3.5 hours. It wasn't a very good sleep, as he kept waking up, usually to use the washroom. The next day he felt okay, just a little tired. He felt unable to sleep for the rest of the day, but slept for about 16 hours when he finally did. The next day he woke up feeling extremely depressed. Much much more than he has before on MDMA or other pills. He felt like absolute shit and wanted nothing more than to fall back alseep or to get a hold of some benzos to calm himself. But after about 30 minutes, he felt better. This seemed quite odd to SWIM.

SWIM is almost positive that these pills contained MDA. Possibly pure MDA or a mixture of MDA with a very tiny bit of MDMA. Any insights on SWIM's experience?

Original Thread: http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21786

[KomodoMK]

Now that you mention it, SWIM was fairly quiet on this experience where there was around 5-6 of us. SWIM just sat on a beanbag relaxing sometime, without that burst of energy. However, sometimes SWIM just likes to relax and be quiet for an hour or two some evenings.

SWIM also snapped out of his CEVs but was not very often, mostly because something caused him to open his eyes or move around a bit.

SWIM enjoyed thinking this is not reality but damn it's great when lying there.