MDMA: Real Short Duration?!

[KomodoMK]

Last night SWIM took the remaining 1 pill he had after a long period of absistence. It was really short, not even lasting 2 hours.

Time scale:
21:55 Drop
22:22 Come Up
22:55 Peak
23:50 Starting to wear off
12:30 Almost feel at baseline

Was over in almost 2 hours, felt perfectly normal after and no after effects today. SWIM isn't on medication and takes multi vitamin and minerals and cod liver oil capsules everyday. SWIM had eaten about 4 hours prior and only drank fruit juice all day.

What could cause it to be so short, especially only a 55 minutes peak?

[Mona Lisa]

Do you think it might have been methylone as it's supposed to have a shorter duration.

[KomodoMK]

SWIM has never tried methylone so couldn't compare it. It did feel like MDMA in all aspects that swim is used too. Is it possible the pill was a low dose so created the short duration or is it more likely to be the same duration with less intense effects? SWIM was pretty high for the 55 mins he was up.

Is it possible SWIM has a tolerance which could cause this? A while back SWIM stupidly used almost once every week or two for a year.

[Mona Lisa]

It could also be something to do with how the pill was pressed and what it was mixed with (the pill's fillers). Perhaps pills that are more crumbly dissolve more quickly and thus hasten onset but also cause a quicker drop off in effects...

[KomodoMK]

The pill was a very well pressed solid blue dove SWIM tells me. I guess there is far to many factors involved so drawing a proper conclusion is out of the question.

Thanks anyway though.

[dnb warrior]

SWIM thinks it was probably just a low dose

[Ketamina]

Originally Posted by dnb warrior

SWIM thinks it was probably just a low dose

I agree. SWIM has had various levels of dosage when knowing the contents of a supposed MDMA pill. SWIM has purposefully purchased lower doses from reputable suppliers, and what you described sounds pretty much like that. Did you have similar 'day after' feelings, as you would with a higher dose, but just lower key?

[KomodoMK]

Originally Posted by Ketamina

I agree. SWIM has had various levels of dosage when knowing the contents of a supposed MDMA pill. SWIM has purposefully purchased lower doses from reputable suppliers, and what you described sounds pretty much like that. Did you have similar 'day after' feelings, as you would with a higher dose, but just lower key?

When SWIM hit baseline (T+2h30) it was as if he hadn't taken anything, no effects lingering the next morning either.

In reply to the Fonz, not that I can think of. SWIM did take a anti-histamine come to think of it, the active ingredient in that was Cetirizine Dihydrochloride.

[ac1dr4v3n]

SWIM has been telling me his last 2 rolls have been very disappointing such as SWYM. SWIM rolled for about 2 months every other weekend with very good/lasting experiences. Swim waited over 2 months to try rolling again, the results were quite disappointing. He tells me he took 2 very strong XTC pills with Fast Forward imprints along with fellow friends who had also waited more than 2 months. Everyone but SWIM and his g/f had a very intense roll that lasted 4+hours. SWIM only was able to feel the roll coming into effect then it was like he was only experiencing the effects such as jaw clenching and eyes dialated - the same for his girlfriend who said it was almost as they had both taken vicodins. They both waited another 2 weeks to try again. SWIM and his girlfriend both took one and a half this time the tabs had goat imprints on them. SWIM was able to roll this time but it only lasted close to an hour and a half and his g/f did not roll once again. Both times there was absolutly no comedown effects for anyone who had taken the rolls. SWIM beleives both the XTC tabs they tried were pure MDMA but cannot be certian. SWIM is very disappointed and is looking for any answers/suggestions

[raven3davis]

As the dose increases, the duration slightly increases but after a point, taking more will just give you more negative side effects. A weak dose of MDMA will typically only last a few (2-4) hours. A full dose will last the full 4-6 hours.

SWIm doubts you pill was methylone. Probably just a low dose of MDMA. ~60mg? Sound right???

[radiometer]

I agree that a low dose is the most likely culprit. SWIM has had similar experiences in the past, including once with pills which were both lab-tested and taken previously, tolerance from overuse being the deciding factor in that case.

[Nagognog2]

The high cost of methylone rather leaves that one out - unless someone bought a barrel cheap out of China. And let's hope that's not the case. That would get it outlawed in short order. Likely a low dose of MDMA coupled with physiological/psychological factors.

[TheFonz]

Does SWIY take any other supplements that could effect the dopamine receptors?

[KomodoMK]

The second time may have been a low dose of MDMA as that is the conclusion of this thread and what SWIM believes was the case.

The first time could have been anything from mental state to bad pill. Wait 3 months then try again when your in a happy environment with 1 or 2 people you trust. Also, make sure you have no worries and are not stressed at the time.

GL!

[ac1dr4v3n]

The first time SWIM was at an electronic music gathering with 5 very close friends and numerous old contacts all looking to catch up with each other. All of SWIM's friends rolled for numerous hours on the same pills as him even the ones that took only 1. The second time could have most likely been a low dose.

I also have a question about anti depressants such as prozac or prozac substitues. These last for about 2 weeks in your system i was told. Would a person taking these pills be able to roll the same or would they have to be off of them 2 weeks (more/less?) to ensure a good roll? Thanks for your help.

[MaxCamel]

isnt MDE a short lasting high...?

[Bajeda]

Swim finds that interesting as one of his friends got a blue dove (in the US though) within a month ago and experienced the same effects. He concluded it was probably a low dose of MDMA. Might have been similar pills or just similar situation with same looking pill.

[primal440]

I've seen these people taking previously weighed down 140 mgs. of pure MDMA (that factor unbeknownst to them, plus probably they wouldnt even know that was a high dose for most) and still complain about the same thing, real short duration but with the usual intensity of effects.
In this case you couldn't say it was because of a low dose, unless these people were all extremely unsensitive to the molecule but you can definitely point out the physiological/psychological factors. I think they were also MDMA naive, that would explain some...