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Old 29-09-2006, 20:01
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GHB - gives same heat changes as alcohol?

SWIM knows that a big reason for not mixing alcohol and MDMA is that alcohol changes the "heat distribution" in the body, and so does MDMA, and therefore it should be avoided.

But does GHB give the same changes in heat distribution as alcohol?

SWIM always feels warm when he drinks hard liquor,
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I don't think that ghb increase your body temperature. Alcohol causes dehydration and ghb does not. But combine a upper with a downer will always take risks with them, but i'am sure you are aware of that.
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I don't think that ghb increase your body temperature. Alcohol causes dehydration and ghb does not. But combine a upper with a downer will always take risks with them, but i'am sure you are aware of that.
In SWIM's experience, upper + downer = usually OK. It's downer + downer = big risk.
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SWIM agrees with Nicaine, when someone overdoses on uppers it's easier to control with medications than when someone overdoses on downers, than it's usually hope for the best and think about the worst.
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Re: GHB - gives same heat changes as alcohol?

When you drink alcohol as it metabolizes in the body and breaks down, its by product is the poisonous gas ethanol. As this gas builds in the body it also raises the temperature of the body. Most oftern this is experienced post drinking (like the next day during a hangover). Besides the rule of dehydration causing increase in temp., this is often overlooked. When to much alcohol is consumed over to short a period of time, the ethanol builds up to levels higher than th ebody can take. Anti-bodies are released but cant keep up. In turn the higher gas builds up causing tep increase.
But with GBL / GHB it is much different. Swim too always experiences increased body temp. This is usually natural. Especially if taken progressively over a longer period of time. The reason? In simple terms and explanation, its related to SWIM's release of HGH and increased hormone production. With average doses SWIM can experience up to 16 x the normal HGH production. Its onset naturally causes body temp to rise. Examples of this are many but ones most often experienced is when a SWIM exercises and releases HGH. Or something more comparitive is this. GHB is still under research for its connection to the valuable and still mysterious 'REM Sleep' we experience towards the end of our sleep cycle. Our natural GHB in our own cells is heavily involved in this. As we sleep our body temp normally lowers as our heart rate slows. But when a person enters there deepest cycle of sleep, the REM stage, body temp then takes a turn to rise again. Why is this? This is also our most ACTIVE stage of sleep. For many reasons discovered and for many still not. But one of importance is the fact during REM stage our HGH levels spike! (Thats why for proper growth a COMPLETE nights rest is stressed) Yes this is when our bodys experience the highest growth stage. HGH is released, along with hormones, test., estrogen, and so forth. (simple explanation for the 'happy to see you' men experience in morning as well as many womens craving of sex in the mornings) . As all this is happening it also increases our body temp.
So proper hydration is important. But SWIM shouldnt get too alarmed over getting hot while supplementing G.

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Re: GHB - gives same heat changes as alcohol?

Could you please explain how you monitor this 16x increase in HGH production? If you can document this, you would be the first researcher to prove that GHB actually releases HGH.
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