Culture - Does Acid permanently change u?

[Lawzie B]

im quite an openminded person wen it cums 2 drugs, but i have this fear of Acid which i cant seem 2 get ova. every1 i know who had dropped tells me that it changes ur actual thought patterns rather than jus ur perspective, because i have this fear, i know i shud neva drop cos the chances i'll have a bad trip r quite high, but theres still a curiousity in me..................

Every experience, including drugexperiences, changes you forever. When on LSD, it seems that during one trip, you have a lifetime worth of imput or experience. Like you develop new thoughtpatterns thoughout your life, it can be the same during a trip. Good or bad. Stakes are high, as well in negative as in positive perspective. If you decide to take the dive; go very easy on the dose!

[Pitnicker]

I've only dropped acid once and it didn't really change me. Taking mushrooms changed my outlook on life for awhile, but this was a temporary effect. Some people are changed permanently by drugs, others are not. The only issue of concern is whether you have a history of mental disease or suffer from severe depression. Acid can cause some problems in these areas, but it's pretty rare.


My drug use has only changed me for the better, as it was a catalyst for me to seek out more from life than a 9-5 job and the meager offerings of pop culture.

[Woodman]

<blockquote>Originally posted by Alfa on 23 October 2003<hr>
... When on LSD, ...

... Good or bad. Stakes are high, as well in negative as in positive perspective. If you decide to take the dive; go very easy on the dose!<hr></blockquote>

That is so VERY true!



You'll get OUT of it 10 times of what you feel when you go into it.



... and it will last for 6 hours.

[Solidly-here]

EverythingChanges ... in Moderation.


You asked an interesting question: Does LSD change your Thought Patterns, or just your Perspective?


When you see life through a different Perspective, this causes your Thought Patterns to change also. For instance, if you were afraid of dogs, and during a trip you realized that dogs are REALLY friendly creatures, your Thought Pattern (when you're thinking about dogs) will change (or, is changed), as well as your Perspective of dogs in general.


As far as a HUGE change in Thought Patterns, however, I would say NO (unless you have a transformational trip, like an Enlightenment). If you are lucky enough to have such a trip, it will be welcomed by you. Even then, you will still be basically the same person (introvert or extrovert, talkative or quiet, in-a-hurry or slow-and-easy). The Enlightenment change comes more in the way you are more accepting of life (and its joys and pains), and enjoying the things that you do.


A change in Perspective is a big thing. I cannot see something at all, if my Perspective is wrong. When it changes, suddenly I am aware of different things.


So, if you want to be Safe, then do not trip at all. Then, you're life (for sure) will not change in a way which you wouldn't want it to. Better safe than sorry.


The Spiritual nature of psychedelics makes them a BIG step up from non-psychedelics. When you trip (and see different Perspectives flashing by), it changes you; life is no longer viewed as so black-and-white; there are many different paths out there.


There are a lot of mind-altering substances out there which do not dig so deeply into our life-mask. Some people (psychonauts), however, WANT to get in there and play around with changes of Perspective. It's a fun thing to do.

[mrgrim66]

lsd changed me forever. But then again so did the calendar. Edited by: mrgrim66

[mf400]

Originally Posted by Guest

high intake of acid over a couple (sometimes even a short amount) of yrs can lead to mental illnesses such as depression, anxiety or schizophrenia panic attacks and anxiety can last for many months afteru drop acid.u can also experience flashbacks of bad trips years later.

Don't listen to things like this, they are bullshit. Schizophrenia can only occur if you have a history of mental illness in your family. Basically, if you are gonna get schizophrenia no matter what, LSD will cause it to happen earlier. Thats it. I know people that have consistantly done lsd over years, actually, a lot of my friends do and we're all fine. It seems this guy hasbought into the gov't bullshit of the danger of drugs. Be safe, but you can still have a good time. Most people think they are gonna have a bad trip, but the percentage of bad trips I think is pretty low. Don't dive in if your hesitant and scared, but thinking you'll have a bad trip before trying isn't going to help at all. Most people dont reckognize that LSD makes you happy and giggly, its not all hallucinations.


Oh, and about the thought changes, it's my music tastes that have changed for the most part. I still like my original choice of music, but suddenly I had this love for Pink Floyd and Jefferson Airplane.Edited by: mf400

[hellion]

I think somewhere I read that daily usage for 25 or something years causes psychosis, but I might be wrong.

Think of it this way: it's not as big a deal as you think it is. It's like ... sex, in a different way.

[Mezza]

SWIM told me that in terms ofhis thought processes and sensory perception, many years of taking LSD (and other equally powerful hallucinagens), had had absolutely no effect whatsoever. However what he'd LEARNT from taking these things made him a completely different, and in his view far better, person.

[Solidly-here]

Daily Marijuana for 25 years ... try it for yourself.


Dear hellion: IF it was true that people who smoked pot EVERY DAY for 25 years ALL got psychosis (or, if even 1% of them did), believe me: The US government would produce a 20-hour documentary about it, AND play it non-stop on a Cable station.


Actually, there are people in many societies who have smoked pot nearly daily for up to 50 years. In fact, in the Middle East (home of the Hookah) there are places where most all they smoke is hashish.


To my system, hash is stronger even than the premium grades of pot, and if damage was going to happen at all, it would happen with hash (but it doesn't).


Another place where a lot of people smoke pretty regularly in Jamaica (home of the $26-a-pound marijuana). Here, again, there are many people who smoke it a lot, because it is part of their culture.


But, one doesn't have to go that far. I know 3 people who have been smoking pot for more than 30 years (one of them 41 years). These are "normal" people (if anyone is actually normal). Two of them still work (one as a Computer Chip designer), the other one worked for37 of his adult years as a research scientist (and retired a couple years ago).


The counter-argument: OK you know 3 people who are not psychotic ... what about all the rest of them?


The United States government has funded many studies, looking for ANY possible down-sides to pot. When a reasearch proposal gets sent in to be funded, a government worker looks at it, with one purpose in mind: Does this researcher want to show the down-side to pot? If yes, it gets funded (or might get funded). If not, it is rejected.


It goes deeper than that. In order to conduct pot research, the researcher must actually have some pot. To get it, he needs the approval of the DEA. The DEA, however, has refused most of requests for pot. In fact, the only pot they will allow (even an approved project) is some so-so strain that the governement grows.


If you read the literature, you will see many un-happy medical researchers: these are the ones (working even at prestigious Universities), who want to conduct research to prove the positive medical value of marijuana, once and for all.


Oops, I went off on a tangent. Suffice it to say, IF pot was dangerous (even to use daily, for 25 years), you would have heard about it from Big Brother.Edited by: Solidly-here