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Old 26-09-2006, 18:38
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If this could possibly be spelled "N-Methyl-3-piperidyl benzilate" then it appears the DEA are way ahead of you here-
http://www.dea.gov/pubs/scheduling.html

As far as effects go, I think the benzilates (is that a word?) would best be described as deleriants instead of psychedelics or hallucinogens. Unless perhaps BZ is your type of thing. The US military used to stock BZ or 3-quinuclidinyl benzilate as a chemical weapon and its effects are quite nasty from what I've read, not to mention having a duration of typically 72 to 96 hours!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3-quinuclidinyl_benzilate

No idea if your N-methyl-3-piperidyl benzylate would have similar effects but this rat won't be testing any day soon
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BZ was the culmination of the studies done on the JB series back in the a950's and early 1960's. The CIA was looking for weapons after first looking for "truth serums" and brain-washing agents. The most famous of these was called Ditran and was a mixture of two of the JB's.

The JB series were all piperidyl benzilates. And they all induced full-blown hallucinations of the datura-type. Marked by the inability to distinguish reality from illusions. BZ was by far the most potent and longest lasting - 500ucg. being enough to make one truly wrecked for 3+ days.

If you googled Ditran, I'll bet you'd find a plethora of data on this type of "True-Hallucinogens."
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