Anal use - Guide to rectal use of morphine and other opiates

[Maximill]

SWIM tried this method today and was happy with the results although SWIM didnt feel too much of a difference.
MS-Contin 60mg pills were used by SWIM.

[brown_chunx]

I'm sorry, I just can't imagine how akward it would be to lift up your leg and twist a syringe into my anus. It seems like IV would work so much better. And what exactly are Enemas and how do they work. Aren't they like bags the suction out your shit?

[radiometer]

Originally Posted by brown_chunx

I'm sorry, I just can't imagine how akward it would be to lift up your leg and twist a syringe into my anus.

It's a lot easier laying down on one's side. If SWIY is really uncomfortable with rectal admin, then he can happily ignore its existence.

It seems like IV would work so much better.

IV is obviously more effective, but also obviously more risky in various ways. If one's goal is to use drugs safely, then IV is the route of last resort.

And what exactly are Enemas and how do they work. Aren't they like bags the suction out your shit?

One of my pet peeves on internet forums is people who ask what something is, rather going to the tremendous effort of opening a google or wikipedia window and typing the word. Try it - instant gratification! No, an enema does not suck out your shit. Such a device would be handy for the times when opiate-related constipation occurs!

*edit* man does that last sentence read funny when followed by my signature...

[Nicaine]

SWIM wants to add this to the thread: Adding a bit of baking soda to the dissolved morphine can improve bioavailability and speed of absorption. Over & out...

[Forthesevenlakes]

Originally Posted by Nicaine

SWIM wants to add this to the thread: Adding a bit of baking soda to the dissolved morphine can improve bioavailability and speed of absorption. Over & out...

Excellent idea, SWINicaine. SWIM is going to have to do a trial of this method over the weekend and will repord on the results.

[gilligan_911]

mmmmmm. SWIM has just completed his first plugging and it is f**king wonderful. warm body glow all over and tingly sensations throught the extremities. swim used 10mg of oxycodone crushed fine with a very small amount of baking soda. he used warm water and filled the syringe he had just a little bit, took the plunger out n poured in his powder, replaced the plunger and drew up 2cc more lukewarm water. he lay down on a towel and when the syringe was good n deep, fired home. there was a slight problem with some powder being retained on the plunger seal but one more shot cleared that up. he lay there for a good 20 min and mmm mmm mmmmMMM MMMMMMMMMMMM!

its good :] def an 8.5/10
swim would reccomend to others and def plans on trying this again!

[djharg]

Is it possible/worthwhile to analy administer methadone ampoules?

anyone know , as swim has no veins left.

[ctb4444]

Originally Posted by Nicaine

SWIM wants to add this to the thread: Adding a bit of baking soda to the dissolved morphine can improve bioavailability and speed of absorption. Over & out...

how much baking soda should someone add?

[DrMuffy]

SWIdr wonders if DXM, in the extracted and or HBr forms, would be absorbed well with rectal administration. If so, DXM coadministered with the desired opiate would greatly potentiate the opiate experience. It would also save one even more money by having to use less of the opiate with the DXM for the same effect.

[Nagognog2]

An associate of Bongo's tried DXM HBr by that route. He ended up spending the entire night on the can - having endless, painful spasms. He said it was like puking from his tail for 12 hours. Not good.

[csharpprogrammer]

SWIM has a few questions about lubrication. Is it imperative that SWIM use lube, or can it be done without, if so could someone tell of their experiences. Also is there any common household products that could be used as a lubricant?

[csharpprogrammer]

In the ectasy plugging tutorial, it says SWIY can use tubing attacted to the end of the syringe instead of using the whole syringe. This could work with opiates also I assume. Could someone confirm this?
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12481

[BANGINCOLOR]

SWIM often will give himself home "enemas' sort of like a colonic irrigation once in a while. He bought a small attachment for that he uses in place of his shower head and the end of the shower hose. This nozzle is then inserted into his anus, water is turned on and pumped in and when his anus feels full, he shuts off water and lands on the toilet where the water and everything else comes out.

His question is, this way of giving meds rectally is similar to his home colonic irrigation. When he thinks of it, he feels the rectal taking of meds will give him the same feeling of having to go to the toliet immediatley afterwards and is concerned about this. After pumping the mixture of water and meds into his anus, won't he have the urge to REALLY go to the toliet and relieve himself???

[Nagognog2]

SWIM could try some small experiments before using their ill-gotten-booty. Find what the monkey will stand - before shipping the Grand Piano to it's righteous reward.

[IkBenDeMan]

Isn't it true that rectally administered alcohol has a bioavailability MANY, MANY times that of orally administered alcohol? ...or have I been persuaded to believe this by bad media?

[DrMuffy]

Originally Posted by IkBenDeMan

Isn't it true that rectally administered alcohol has a bioavailability MANY, MANY times that of orally administered alcohol? ...or have I been persuaded to believe this by bad media?

Yeah, so one should reconsider his tolerance for alcohol before he tries this. SWIY will get good results if done in right doses. Start slow (3 mL white wine) and work SWIY's way up (just to be careful ).

[Nagognog2]

Yes it does affect one with a more powerful effect. By bypassing the liver, it is quite a bit stronger than drinking if taken by this route. So alcohol in any form should be regarded as potentially dangerous.Build up any doses to the monkey WAY in the side of caution.

Nothin' bites worse than a comatose monkey with a syringe sticking from it's ass.

Now back on topic? Yes?

[Garagehousenation666]

Swim is going to get a suringe on tuesday after getting some new 40mg oxycotin script and also swim has 10 mg endocets should swim try first to use the endocet rectaly first?

[rodent]

I'll try to answer your question the best I can... some punctuation in there would help greatly next time though.

Short answer - both have oxycodone in them which gives the high. Please start with the lower doses especially if one is new to this or opiates at all.

First, does your rat have ANY tolerance to opiates?

If he does not, I would tell him to not use rectal administration at all, at least at first. Two 10mg Endocets taken orally would give him a very pleasant but sometimes not so pleasant experience - very itchy/dizzy.

(btw- both the Endocets and Oxycontin have the same drug in them, oxycodone. The difference is what else is in there... acetaminophen & oxy in the Endocets. Basically just oxycodone int he Oxycontins).

With no tolerance, I wouldn't have the rat start at more then 1 or 2 tablets orally. Without tolerance, this rat would occasionally feel sick taking more than 20mgs oxy ending up feeling dysphoric and a strong buzz/dizziness, sometimes so strong he would have to lay down to feel better.

Whole different story if the rat has some kind of tolerance or just experience with opiates. Always start slow & low and work up. Also, always take breaks between days because when the tolerance becomes noticeable that is usually when one can find themselves addicted to some degree.

Rectal oxy, be it Endocet or Oxycontin, is really only for the experienced....IMO.

[Ethyl]

Can i use a aquarium tube, and insert it in my rectum? I would connect the other end to a 5ml seringe.
If so i could use more than 1 5ml at the time by removing that seringe and inserting other, and it's thinner...

[monkeygone2heaven]

swim finds the idea od syringe a bit scary (just psychologically)

does anyone know whether one can use these enema containers? suppose one could empty the contents and fill them up with your dissolved opiate. but they're a bit big. maybe the baby ones would be a good size.

[MrJim]

As long as it goes where it is supposed to go (and sanitarily) there shouldn't be a problem.

[oxyaddict05]

When swim used to plug Oxy (and other drugs) swim found a much better way of mixing the drug and the water. Crush the pill into a fine powder. Suck in a tiny bit of water into the syrynge. Pull out the plunger while keeping the water in the syrynge (It helps to plug the front with your finger to prevent water from coming out) then, keeping your finger on the front, scoup in the crushed pill from the top. Replace the plunger a tiny bit. Hold it upsidedown so the front is facing up and the water/drugs falls to the bottom. Then push the plunger in the rest of the way. You can always add more water by sucking it up. This way you get 100% of the powder. Then shake the syrynge so that it mixes well.

[hoodabudda]

Originally Posted by oxyaddict05

When swim used to plug Oxy (and other drugs) swim found a much better way of mixing the drug and the water. Crush the pill into a fine powder. Suck in a tiny bit of water into the syrynge. Pull out the plunger while keeping the water in the syrynge (It helps to plug the front with your finger to prevent water from coming out) then, keeping your finger on the front, scoup in the crushed pill from the top. Replace the plunger a tiny bit. Hold it upsidedown so the front is facing up and the water/drugs falls to the bottom. Then push the plunger in the rest of the way. You can always add more water by sucking it up. This way you get 100% of the powder. Then shake the syringe so that it mixes well.

swim pulls the plunger out of the back of the rig puts the tabs in the rig whole then puts the plunger back in and sucks up some water then shakes it till dissolved. much easyer and no wasted opiate on a second container.

[Ganja Joe]

SWIM has been taking 7.5mg/325 Percocets the last week... Rx of thirty. He's got 3 left, think he's got a little bit of a tolerance enough to try anal injecting of a single 7.5mg tablet?