Anal use - Guide to rectal use of morphine and other opiates

[DrMuffy]

This thread is just for educational purposes only (wink wink)
Well if SWIY is broke and can only afford a couple of weak morphine pills, this way of administration will get you really high off of small doses. BINGO SWIY got it, rectal administration! It doesn't sound very pretty, but its really not the bad, and plus SWIYs anal cavity has thousands of veins compared to the hundred in your nose, which mean you get a hell of a lot more for your buck.

1. Get some morphine (or the desired pills) and crush them up fine (make sure its a small dose, refer to SWImrJim's thread for dosages, located http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12351)
2. Get a syringe (without needle of course) and suck up some hot water (3-5 mL)
3. Put the water and the powdered morphine into a small container; like one of those plastic screw off tops to most sodas
4. Start mixing it for about a minute or until it dissolves, (but not all of it will dissolve, but thats ok
5. Quickly stir the mixture one last time (to get the good stuff that was sitting on the bottom to swirl around so its easier to get all of the good stuff) then suck it up into the syringe.
6. Go find a place were SWIY can be alone for 20-30 minutes, and also it would be best if SWIY had a book, tv, or music to entertain SWIY because after SWIY done administering it, SWIY shouldnt move for at least 20 to ensure good absorption.
7. Lay on SWIYs left side (right is left handed) and take off your pants.
8. Lubricate the syringe alot (expecially the top). Sex lubrication works best, but SWIM hasn't really tried it with other sources of lubrication.
9. (Here comes the fun part!) Lift right leg and slowely insert the syringe into SWIYs anus.
10. The syringe should be deep into your anal cavity, so just push it in until it reaches the plunger, then slowely inject the morphine into SWIYs anal cavity (SWIY will probably feel a tingling sensation)
11. Once SWIY have pumped all of the morphine out, slowly remove the syringe, and your done with the hard part!
12. Now all SWIY have to do is relax and lay on SWIYs side for a period of time from 5-20mins (to help with absorption).

Coments/suggestions: The onset will start very soon after administration, you should hit the plateau in less than 30 minutes after administration and it will last for about an hour or so, and the decline will be very rapid, and leave you comfortably sleepy.
It would be best if you tried a test run with water, so SWIY know what to expect. (Thanks Radio).
SWIdr strongly suggests that SWIY try to shit before SWIY administers the morphine, but its ok if SWIY can't, you just might end up with a bunch of fecal matter on your syringe.

Well there it is, SWIM hopes it help you guys out and stuff, and let SWIM say this is way better than snorting and oral morphine.

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	good guide, it would be extremely helpful if you would edit it to give some idea of how many ml water will be necessary ...
	Helpful thread, thanks
	informative
	good technique
	Good info. Have never administered anally but would now be able to do so based on this information.
	useful info
	This is a great way to save morphine

[Forthesevenlakes]

thanks for the clear guide, swiDr!

SWIM wants all potential users of this guide to particularly keep in mind...rectal administration makes many drugs MUCH MORE bioavailable than through the oral or insufflated routes. like swiDr says, make sure its a SMALL DOSE because unless you have naloxone handy, there is little you can do about an OD with the rectal route, unlike orally where there is the chance of vomiting.

start off with maybe half of a usual oral dose. if swiy is unclear about dosages for people with no tolerance to opiates/opioids, check out MrJim's great dosage chart. that should help. using the forum search engine will also yield more tips on rectal administration should swiy wish to learn more.

use caution, be safe, and remember, opiates are not something that you want to be doing all the time. addiction can happen to anyone!

[radiometer]

Good guide. Bonus karma points for not referring in any way to homosexuality.

Could you please let us know approximately how many (few) ml of water a dose will require to dissolve?

Two extra general recommendations:

1) Give it a "dry" run sometime beforehand with only water so that SWIY will know what to expect.
2) Try to "evacuate" beforehand to make sure things are fairly clean.

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[DrMuffy]

Originally Posted by radiometer

Good guide. Bonus karma points for not referring in any way to homosexuality.

Could you please let us know approximately how many (few) ml of water a dose will require to dissolve?

Two extra general recommendations:

1) Give it a "dry" run sometime beforehand with only water so that SWIY will know what to expect.
2) Try to "evacuate" beforehand to make sure things are fairly clean.

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Thanks for the comments, i now know wha i forgot lol

[Sklander]

Would a rectal administration of 4MG Hydromorphone be a good starting dose?

[DrMuffy]

Yes it would, haha i just posted a comment on your thread bout this. But yeah that should be fine, then you will know what to expect and then try a better dose if it was to weak the first time, or if it was to strong, do the opposite

[Bhaal]

Interesting, SWIM had never thought of this. Maybe SWIM will have to try it and see how well it works... In theroy of course.

[DrMuffy]

Yeah SWIM has done this numerous times, and boy oh boy it saves SWIY alot (well mainly on morphine, but alot of other drugs are much bettter rectally. The first couple of times are the most uncomfotable, but it gets much easier once you get the hang of it. SWIM can now administer 4 separate (3mL) syringes chalk full of that good ol Morph in less then 2 minutes, but take SWIY's time when he does it the first couple o times, if SWIY decides to try it, and SWIM definatly reccomends it.

[mickenator]

Can swim also do this with dihydrocodeine? and if so in what doses.

[Forthesevenlakes]

Dihydrocodeine should work. Starting dose would be half of an oral dose. Maybe 15-30 mg?

[Forthesevenlakes]

SWIM would like to contribute a plug for the plugging method! He recently used the technique described here, and he wants to thank everyone who contributed to this information, SWIM definitely would have had a much harder time without the guide. It worked perfectly, and swiradiometer's idea for the test run was a good one because it let SWIM know what to expect. As for swiDrMuffy's quotes on the onset and duration, it was almost exactly as he said, minute for minute! SWIM thinks he will use this method when possible because it really makes the drugs go farther.

SWIM wants to know if people clean their syringes after use, or if they are just discarded every time. If they can be cleaned, what chemicals or soaps are used? SWIM had a long soft-tipped syringe and it was easily inserted, they can be found without having to ask a pharmacist too, in the medicine aisle of a drugstore.

[radiometer]

SWIM just follows the same guidelines as for sex toys. SWIM cleans it very well with a spray sex-toy cleaner and also with anti-bacterial soap for good measure. Perhaps a soft-tipped syringe may be more prone to retain bacteria, depending on whether the material is porous - boiling it for a while should handle that problem. The tip is so slim that SWIM has no problems with a standard one-piece plastic oral syringe (I guess two-piece including the plunger). Another helpful tip I'd like to share is that there are brands of lube which are much thicker and goopy, specifically for anal use, and these work much better than thin lubes. "Maximus" is one well-known brand.

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[Forthesevenlakes]

This is excellent to know, thank you Radiometer! SWIM may have to make a trip down to the local naughty-pictures store to get some cleaner and lube (and hell, while he's at it, why not some nitrous?) The tip that SWIM used was quite soft, and some petroleum jelly worked fine to get it lubricated. The tip also seemed more prone to retaine bacterial, since it was quite flexible, and SWIM surmises, very porous. The cleaning thought occurred to SWIM after he had already tossed the syringe, but it simply makes sense financially and ecologically to hang onto the same syringe and cleaning it well.

SWIM is just wondering what his housemate would say if he came home to SWIM boiling a syringe tip in the kitchen. His housemate is a very understanding and great person though, so the likely response would just be, "Ohh, you're cooking up trouble, I see."

Thank you again for that response and your help in these rectal threads. SWIM has heard of lab rats stuffing unbroken pills into their sphincter before, and perhaps this site, as a resource, can help prevent improper or potentially harmful methods like that.

[acolon_5]

When SWIM does anything rectally he always uses an enema first. Feces will absorb the goodies that you are trying to get into your system. In his opinion though the high is different from oral, or even IV usage. For him, it seems that the depth of the high is just not there when using it rectally (at least when he was doing it with morphine or hydromorphone). It is stronger, but without that deep body high that oral/iv gives. It is true that less is needed...definitely do a pre-emptive enema though, it will also help to get your body ready to hold the liquid till it's gone.

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[Forthesevenlakes]

Anyone else try this with oxycontin/oxycodone and feel like they left a LOT of their product in the soda cap where they mixed the powder and water in step 3? The oxy doesnt seem to dissolve too great in the water, and there are white clumps left that SWIM cant get into the syringe. Now, the residue may be binder, but it pains SWIM to think that he's wasting the drug while he's cavalierly trying to shove things up his bum.

So, is there anything to do that can make SWIM dissolve the oxycodone more efficiently?

[DrMuffy]

SWIdr finds it easeir to use more water than usual when dealing with oxys. He also suggests you use a small container with flat surfaces (intead of soda caps with ridges and such). Normally SWIdr would suggest alcohol to help the dissolving process, but oxycodone is only slightly soluable in alcohol.

[IkBenDeMan]

Originally Posted by DrMuffy

SWIdr finds it easeir to use more water than usual when dealing with oxys. He also suggests you use a small container with flat surfaces (intead of soda caps with ridges and such). Normally SWIdr would suggest alcohol to help the dissolving process, but oxycodone is only slightly soluable in alcohol.

rectally administered alcohol = bad news

[Pinkavvy]

Originally Posted by IkBenDeMan

rectally administered alcohol = bad news

Not in moderation and diluted.

Swip regularly enjoys a diluted red wine enema . . . and often enjoys his opiates in the mix.

Regarding the question asked about lube being needed - No, it's not required. Comfort and safety is the key to lube being recomended. Swip's girlfriend prefers no lube... as do others.

[IkBenDeMan]

Originally Posted by Pinkavvy

Not in moderation and diluted.

Swip regularly enjoys a diluted red wine enema . . . and often enjoys his opiates in the mix.

Regarding the question asked about lube being needed - No, it's not required. Comfort and safety is the key to lube being recomended. Swip's girlfriend prefers no lube... as do others.

personally, I just feel like alcohol wouldn't be one's TOP choice, perhaps a more acidic solution or something, but yeah, you're right, much like most things that CAN be dangerous they can be safe as well.

[DrMuffy]

Originally Posted by IkBenDeMan

rectally administered alcohol = bad news

You are right SWIikbendeman, alcohol rectally administered can be very dangerous. But as SWIpink said, in moderation it can help and add some good effects. Just when rectally administering alcohol, one must be Very careful becaus more of it is absorbed faster, and obviosly one cant just throw it up if they get alcohol poisoning.

[Forthesevenlakes]

Good to know. SWIM has been experimenting and found that the oxys seem to dissolve better in warm water, rather than cold. Cold water causes them to cluster in several small balls of oxy that are difficult to break apart. The flat surface idea is a good one too, the oxy tends to stick to the sides. SWIM had been thinking alcohol too, but thanks to your info, he won't try it, (and he didnt even have to look at an MSDS) thanks!

So, while oxy is difficult to break apart and dissolve at times, SWIM says that it IS worth it to attempt this procedure. SWIM has gotten effects at 1/3 to 1/2 an oral dose, and its a great way to save money. Sure, it takes a bit more time to prepare, but not much longer than chopping it up to snort, plus theres sort of a ritualistic "feel" to the preparation, since its more involved than snorting or popping a pill. People who are frequent rectal users might want to be wary of that feeling, because SWIM could see someone who is trying to abstain from drugs get craving or withdrawal symptoms from spotting equipment involved in rectal use. It happens with IV users spotting syringes, so conceivably this generalization could occur with soda caps (unlikely) and oral syringes (more likely).

[DrMuffy]

Yes SWIforthesevenlakes, SWIdr feels the exact same way, he loves the routine he goes through to reectally administer drugs almost as much at the drug itself (I know this sounds very weird, but rectal administration does not make you "gay" so this routine liking is fairly normal simalar to herion junkies and their "fixing"). There must be some sort of psycological part which draws one to the preperation, just like certain people and their daily routines. The human brain is VERY complicated!

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[Maximill]

Originally Posted by DrMuffy

Yes SWIforthesevenlakes, SWIdr feels the exact same way, he loves the routine he goes through to reectally administer drugs almost as much at the drug itself (I know this sounds very weird, but rectal administration does not make you "gay" so this routine liking is fairly normal simalar to herion junkies and their "fixing"). There must be some sort of psycological part which draws one to the preperation, just like certain people and their daily routines. The human brain is VERY complicated!

SWIM loves his routine crushing and snorting Oxy's, god does SWIM love the routine. SWIM understands what SWIY is saying 100 percent.SWIM loves the routine/taste/everything almost as much as the high, almost.

[DrMuffy]

SWIM tried this method today and was happy with the results although SWIM didnt feel too much of a difference.
-Thats probably becuse oxycodone has good oral and nasal bioavailities are pretty much the same as rectal.
MS-Contin 60mg pills were used by SWIM.

Originally Posted by Maximill

SWIM loves his routine crushing and snorting Oxy's, god does SWIM love the routine. SWIM understands what SWIY is saying 100 percent.SWIM loves the routine/taste/everything almost as much as the high, almost.

-yeah, SWIdr has been reading up on the connection between the human beings' taste for the preparation of the drug and the drug itself. It is a very interesting subject!

[Oxycontin]

Originally Posted by Maximill

SWIM loves his routine crushing and snorting Oxy's, god does SWIM love the routine. SWIM understands what SWIY is saying 100 percent.SWIM loves the routine/taste/everything almost as much as the high, almost.

Yeah I agree completely with this. I have been off oxy for about 3 weeks now and its not just the high I miss, but everything. Getting oxy's, shaving the coating, crushing them up, using the tools involved (ie. pill crusher, ID card, hose clamp, razor blade, glass table/ mirror, rolled up bills or other snorting straws) snorting them, the taste or real oxy's/ good dope. I really miss snorting it.