succesful Research Chemical combos/personal research

[rxbandit]

swim was wondering what combinations people have succesfully tried with RC's and the effects negative and positive.

swims seen;

2c-i and 2c-e (quite intense and somewhat enjoyable)

methylone and aco-mipt(overly intense, the senses become completelly jumbled and the body feels as if it doesnt exist, telepathy, overwhelming)

2c-e and ho-mipt (most breathtaking visuals)

2c-i and aco-mipt (visually intense, incredibly euphoric)

methylone and coke (bliss, overstimulating and suprisingly antisocial)

morphine and 2c-i (resulted in alot of vommiting)



none of these pretty heavy doses have had any lasting effects on swim, wondering what any swiys might have tried.

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interesting thread and interesting combos

[turkeyphant]

SWIM can recommend the following:

Old classic: 2C-B and MDMA - absolutely lush and the MDMA seems to bring out the best parts of 2C-B.
2C-E and methylone - use your normal medium dose of 2C-E and then crazify it all a bit with a methylone bomb.

[Elian_NWA]

SWIM is wondering about the 5-meo-mipt/methylone or 4acomipt/methylone combo.

did SWIY enjoy acomipt/methylone?

[turkeyphant]

Originally Posted by Elian_NWA

SWIM is wondering about the 5-meo-mipt/methylone combo.

If you get your right ratio correct, it should be beautiful.

[Elian_NWA]

does SWIY have any suggestions? to SWIM it appears around 150mg of methylone and 7mg of 5meomipt would be sufficient but SWIM's just throwing those out there knowing how each effects SWIM differently

[rxbandit]

swim had some 5-meo mipt that didnt seem to be active. however the 30migs aco-mipt and the 250-300 mg's of methylone was intense not quite enjoyable but unbeatable for intensity and introspection. the time lapse can be almost unbearable, every second feels like your watching swiys lifetime playout differently. swim saw his life lived out what seemed like a million times all with different event and decisions, it seemed sort of prophetic. the visuals were intense, swim could see purple and red shards of light with depth cast across the landscape. reality was gone completely. all of the senses mixed up and jumbled and it felt like swim had new sense not known to humans. like swim could sense energy, manipulate others thought, sense frequencys, tap out the most complex patterns with his fingers. the experience was interesting but swim was left feeling as if humanity was racing in circles and swim did not want to be part of that, however he returned back to society a few days later.

[Djvr16]

5-MeO-DMT seems to bring out even more color and patterning with 2c-b. Great combo

[illuminati boy]

Originally Posted by rxbandit

2c-e and ho-mipt (most breathtaking visuals)

Any idea on what SWIM’s doses were?
Also any idea as to what the ratio might have been to a ‘fully active’ dose of each for SWIM (i.e. 1/3, ½, etc.)?
Last any ideas on what SWIM’s timeline was (i.e. both compounds together, staggered 30 minutes, etc.)?

Thanks.

I B

[Toltec]

Originally Posted by illuminati boy

Any idea on what SWIM’s doses were?
Also any idea as to what the ratio might have been to a ‘fully active’ dose of each for SWIM (i.e. 1/3, ½, etc.)?
Last any ideas on what SWIM’s timeline was (i.e. both compounds together, staggered 30 minutes, etc.)?

Thanks.

I B

In Swits past, he once combined, (in the same gel cap) 10mg 2C-E and 16mg 4-ho-mipt he found it to feel very present an visual.

He once tried a combo (in the same cap) of 10mg 4-HO-mipt and 10mg 4-ACO-Dipt found that to be a wonderful mix. Aw the good old dayz

[joechip666]

SWIM has tried and does NOT recommend the following:

"4mg of 5-Meo-MiPT + 30 mg of 4-HO-MiPT = perceived pulse racing and extremely high blood pressure for first hour followed by visuals so intense that a single 40 watt lightbulb in a room makes it impossible to navigate clearly (a 25 watt bulb was later substituted and SWIM was able to see better). Pleasant after the first hour but way too many very distressing physical symptoms for that first hour. Individually neither, even at significantly higher doses (15 mg. 5-Meo-MiPT or 50 mg. 4-HO-MiPT fumarate) , has given SWIM any of the cardiovascular scare that this combination has. To be avoided."

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Informative report… but dear god those are some massive doses! SWIM should be careful.

[rxbandit]

swims dose was 20 mg ho-mipt with 10 mg 2c-e mixed in a gelcap and swallowed down. swim has also noted that 10mg's of 2c-e is active on its own just not that intense and that 20mg's of ho-mipt is usually a substantial trip.

swim thinks 15/5 mg's might be an easier trip.

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Thanks for the specific info.

[El Calico Loco]

According to my subject:

20mg 2C-I + 30mg 2C-C: Wonderful. Visual, sensual, empathic, and erotic. Better than either compound alone.

20mg 2C-I + 10mg 2C-E: Not bad, but he prefers either on its own. The body high of 2C-I and the cerebral high of 2C-E seem to be at cross-purposes.

40mg 2C-C + 20mg 2C-E: Unnecessary. The 2C-C didn't seem to add anything but additional body load to the 2C-E experience.

20mg 2C-I + 400mg DXM: Intense, with amazing visuals, but not recommended - the stimulation is far too much. This combo is probably dangerous.

20mg 2C-E + 400mg DXM: Less intense than 2C-I + DXM, surprisingly, but interesting in that you can trip psychedelic in DXM-space. Still, not recommended for the same reason as 2C-I + DXM; it's probably dangerous.

75mg diphenhydramine + 20mg 2C-E + Tobacco (2 cigs) + Cannabis (4 hits) + N2O (6 bulbs) + 10mg 5-MeO-DMT: Once in a lifetime +++++ experience, but also over-stimulating. May be dangerous; the subject is still unsure. Be careful!

He says that cannabis and nitrous oxide go well with everything except alcohol.
Tobacco goes well with all of the above except DXM; DXM should really be taken on its own (with a small amount of diphenhydramine and citric acid to fight nausea).


ECL

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Excellent info, great layout.

[nanobrain]

seems the emerging consensus is 5-MEO-MiPT is not a good adjuvant.

also, please note that DMT and derivatives are contraindicated with amphetamine type stimulants (MD family excepted).

2C-T-21 and 2C-C have been said to produce incredible synergy. 2C-B-FLY and 5-MEO-DALT are said to be noteworthy.

[rxbandit]

swim tried a new mix; 2c-t-2, 2c-e, and 2c-i. total weight 10 mg's. kicked in incredibly quick 20 minutes or so. visuals were complete chaotic patterns ranging from light colors to dark menacing ones. the mind was a bit uneasy but the mix was quite intense especially for its weight of each.

[El Calico Loco]

I know now (from my test subject's personal experience and from the comments of others on this forum) that DXM is contra-indicated with 2C's. I wonder, however...would a really low dose of both be harmful? Say, 5mg of 2C-E (or 10mg 2C-I) with just 100mg DXM?

I'm not sure my subject is willing to test this himself anytime soon, but I'm curious.

Oh, and another data point: according to my subject, just 10mg 2C-E + 2 hits THC + 3 hits N2O + tobacco + meditation = the awesome. From his account, the trip was mellow, enjoyable, and extremely visual.


ECL
(Open that third eye!)

[grandbaby]

Originally Posted by rxbandit

swim tried a new mix; 2c-t-2, 2c-e, and 2c-i. total weight 10 mg's. kicked in incredibly quick 20 minutes or so. visuals were complete chaotic patterns ranging from light colors to dark menacing ones. the mind was a bit uneasy but the mix was quite intense especially for its weight of each.

Interesting. A brave combo, even at that low weight. What were the ratios?

[rxbandit]

alright, swim had about 5 mg's of 2c-e and then 2.5 of 2c-i and 2c-t-2 approximately. swim had a quick come up, the visuals were not uniform at all; they would go from undulation, to morphing, to twisting, to spinning to waving. the variety was quite strange. also in the shadows of swims room he saw clockwork elves dancing/working in silouette.

swim notes this wasnt the most intense visual but it was the quickest phenethylamine come up hes experienced with the most varied visuals... it seemed like chaos, patterning were not patterns at all but random chaos. it was innerving but beautiful... or so swim said.

[rxbandit]

also another combination swim has had sucess with was DOI(3mg) and ho-mipt(20 mg's). the electric humor and visual brevity was quite an exquisite mix although the visual after effects lasted a few weeks for swim.

[halftone]

...it was suggested on this board in another thread by somebody already, but SWIM and SWIM SO tried this combo recently, and they both would highly recommend it.

8:15pm 12mg 2c-i taken orally in liquid (10mg for SO)
9:25pm 90-100mg methylone taken orally in liquid
10:45pm 40-50mg methlone taken same as above

first time researching methylone, and it was absolutle wonderful! It was just as others had described here - similar headspace to mdma, without the 'push' and much more clear-headed. felt really, really, great, but had no desire to tell everyone HOW FUCKING GREAT IT FELT! The erotic component was definitley there - felt very horny on the come up, but during peak,SWIM don't think he could've maintained erection .. comedown was a different story - crazy animal sex! Tactile sensations very heightened - almost more so than mdma, he thinks.

Overall, he highly looks forward to researching this combo again. SWIM and SO used to do mdma quite a bit back in the day, but took a 3 year break to have a child. After 3 years, SWIMS had a chance to try mdma a couple of times, and while while still great fun, it takes it's toll on bodies/minds for at least a day or two after. He thinks methylone is a worthy substitue for mdma, if not better because it doesn't wear you out as much afterwards.

above edited for complianace with FORUM RULES, thanks, nano.

[rxbandit]

try to not personalize anything you write, be objective and try to refrain from cursing as it adds little. just work on it other wise swiys post is good.

[waxhorse]

mdma and 2cb. mdma and 2ce.

Something about the combination of the two brings a more detailed inner vision. (CEV)

Tho'...I have to say...I once had a completely fantastic voyage of 2mg of doi and then at the 10hr mark+30mg of 2c-c!!

Wait!! How about Dipt+5 meo dipt!!

Back in the good ole day...BDO/G + anything psychedelic was very nice.

WH

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nice combinations, although i would be interested to hear more on them

[big-lester]

2c-e + mushrooms seemed pretty interestig, they didn't really mix to create something completely new, but it did seem interesting. nice visuals.

2c-b + mushrooms was nice for SWIBL, very visual and a freaky but pleasant mindtrip.

2c-b + mushrooms + MDMA, not very nice, a bit too chaotic.

2c-b + LSD, not nice at all for SWIBL, it bored SWIBL heavily, very colorless and uninteresting visuals, and it made SWBL dumb and clumsy, not being able to speak normally or understand pretty simple things, while SWIBL didn't take very much at all.

4-aco-mipt + LSD this is pure bliss, this is by far the best combo SWIBL has tried up to now. these 2 go hand in hand, they produce a completely new and special trip. breathtaking visuals, a LOT of visuals, and one feels completely in balance, feels very spiritual. SWIBL has done this one several times now, and everytime he notices the same special thing these 2 produce when combined. best is to take more acid than 4-aco-mipt.

2 of SWIBL's friends have tried methylone + mushrooms, bith of them said it was not a good combination, SWIBL can't really remember why not.

these are all SWIBL can think of right now, if you want to check his reports on these combos, you can find most of em here on DF.

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interesting combinations

[rxbandit]

swim has recently tried 4-aco-dmt and 4-ho-mipt together.

Nausea was swift, very anti social, very visual, quite an interesting experience.

[Beeker]

Slim double checked the blinds, loaded to the hilt on amphetamines ... he started to read over the paperwork dated 2032. The lab had burned down back during the civil war of 2021 so who knew what all this ment. Slim lit a smoke as he read a file.

Positive:
8mg 5-meo-mipt and 3grams of mushrooms
15mg 2C-I and 300mg DXM
8mg 5-meo-mipt and 40mg D-Amphetamine
10mg 2C-E and 3 grams mushrooms
500mg Mescaline and 8mg 5-meo-mipt
400mg Mescaline and 2 grams mushrooms
300mg Mescaline and 10mg 2C-E
300mg Mescaline and 20mg 2C-I


Negative:
2c-I and 2c-E
oral 5-meo-mipt and 5grams+ mushrooms
Mescaline and DXM
DOx and Mescaline

"Wonder what sort of lab this was?", He pondered as smoke spun and twirled into the air from his lip.

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Good info, but best was the entertaining way it was written!

[radiometer]

Originally Posted by rxbandit

swim has recently tried 4-aco-dmt and 4-ho-mipt together.

Nausea was swift, very anti social, very visual, quite an interesting experience.

Was there any particular dosage attached to this experience (or any of the others you've contributed)? Without dosage levels, experiential reports are pretty much useless.