Drug info - Spice Gold?

[Alfa]

Spice Smoking Blend has been getting positive reactions. I noticed there now is Spice Gold.

Does anyone have experience with spice gold? Here is the description:

The exotic herbal smoking blend that really works! This extra strong Spice Gold variety is available in 400mg packets, and contains the same ingredients but is a much stronger, more potent blend.

The aroma of Spice provides an uplifting feeling - stimulating yet soothing - surprisingly effective. The plants contained in Spice have been used ritually by ancient cultures throughout the world. It is the perfect smoke for chilling out at home or going out with friends. Spice releases a pleasing aroma that is acceptable anywhere, anytime.

Packaged in a high quality re-sealable pouch to ensure freshness, Spice Gold is ready to use pure, no need to mix with tobacco. Simply roll in your favourite cigarette papers or place in a pipe.

Spice Gold is nicotine and tobacco free.
Ingredients:
Baybean, Blue Lotus, Lion's Tail, Lousewort, Indian Warrior, Dwarf Scullcap, Maconha Brava, Pink Lotus, Marshmallow, Red Clover, Rose, Siberian Motherwort, Vanilla and Honey.
Use Responsibly:
Not permitted for sale to persons under the age of 18.
Not permitted to be sold to the following territories due to sales restrictions:
USA, Australia, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Norway, Holland.

[Montgolfier]

Basically it works! -It's just like dope, only the onset is slower (not a sudden rush like MJ) and the efects last longer with noticable residual effects the next day

[Mona Lisa]

There have been reports since the price of Spice was reduced that its being made weaker than their original batches sold at the higher price. One can't help wondering if their Spice Gold blend is only marginally stronger than their first batches of their 'Original' blend (made quite strong to serve as a promotional product). SWIM found just one pre-rolled joint quite powerful so is keen to try out their Gold blend when she has time.

Please see my link on the Spice smoking blend thread.

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Thanks for the info

[Abrad]

I wouldn't say that. SWIM likes Spice but would still prefer decent cannabis. Spice tastes horrible and tends to make SWIM quite sleepy. He has also encountered other SWIMs who seem get little or no effect from it.

Also, please read the rules. Do not incriminate yourself. This also applies to substances which are currently legal.

[0utrider]

well, if it works to some extent, why dont we try to find out what the main ingredients are in order to mix it ourselves for cheap?

[Orchid_Suspiria]

It sort of sucks that this is not for sale to the United States.Swim would be interested in sampling it.

[killersnowman]

Originally Posted by Orchid_Suspiria

It sort of sucks that this is not for sale to the United States.Swim would be interested in sampling it.

swims next door neighboor's dog's flea just got a bag of spice gold delivered to him in the great usa from an over-seas dealer. the said flea got around four other blends to try as well. the flea hasnt yet sampled the gold but it does have the "Not for sale in the USA" blacked out with magic marker.

[Mint boi]

Originally Posted by outriderx

well, if it works to some extent, why dont we try to find out what the main ingredients are in order to mix it ourselves for cheap?

because spice is a mixture of extracts and enhanced plant material, hence ability to enhance the mix without changing the mass ie spice<spice gold , swim guesses one could mess around with ratios of the ingredients but bah

[wOrship]

Swims post in spice experiences actually relates to Spice Gold, he found it VERY strong!

[hh339]

About 0,3 grams of spice gold in the bong is enough for SWiM. Quite similar to cannabis sativa, but it also makes his body feel very light and floaty. He really likes this stuff, and I wonder how hard it would be to come up with your own mix of strong extracts...

Perhaps this could be interesting for people with anxiety issues, stress, etc.

[geophagus]

Has anyone tried the "Chill" herbal smoke?

The manufacturer claims that it is more potent than Spice, but SWIM would rather not take their word for it since it's kind of expensive.

Can anyone who has experience with these products report about any differeces between Chill & Spice (or Spice Gold for that matter)?

SWIM would appreciate any responses.

[Alfa]

See here for smoking blend comparison: http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...ill#post219822

[Triple7]

SWIM got cottonmouth and felt ill (similar to datura). Had to goto sleep. Thinking was quite difficult. Thoughts were repeating and it was difficult for SWIM to have something done. SWIM got 2 friends that liked the material without feeling ill.

[0utrider]

ins some german forum (about salvia (&ethno)) people are ordering the substances in order to do some experimenting so they maybe find out if is possible to make it, but i guess its kinda hard because they dont say what/how much extracts they use and maybe theres a hidden ingredient..
i will keep u informed

[beena]

SWIM went to visit some friends in the Channel Islands recently and the whole bloody island seems to be smoking Spice. SWIM's friends told her that there's only one little shop on the outskirts of town that sells it and the local police decided to raid it and have it shut down; so the police went along and removed all the packets of Spice and took them away to have the substance inside analysed. They realised that there was nothing in them that was illegal and the shop-owner took them to court and got his stock back and his shop re-opened. The 'grand re-opening' was advertised in the local paper and apparently on that day there were queues of people waiting to get in all down the street from really early in the morning. Seems like all the police were doing was a bit of PR work for the Spice shop owner. lol.
Regarding Spice, SWIM smoked a couple of joints and it seemed to be pretty effective to her, but she's not much of a smoker these days anyhow.

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interesting

[Alfa]

Google found me this on it:

This is from the front page of the local Beano in Jersey
ALARM OVER HERBAL MIX
Magistrate calls for review of sale of Spice.
Spice not classified as a drug


A CALL for a review of the sale of Spice has been ordered by the magistrate, Ian Le Marquand.
He voiced his concerns about the herbal mixture after hearing the case of a 17 year old boy who was charged with driving under the influence after smoking spice. At the moment spice is not classified as a drug.

Speaking after the case in which the teenager was banned from driving for 12 months and bound over for 6 months for possessing cannabis, the magistrate said: This was an alarming case, and I think the authorities should be seriously considering whether spice should be categorised as a class C or class B drug.

The level of intoxication, described was equivalent to two and a half times the drink drive limit.

The package carries no warning about risks in terms of driving. You could have a situation in which someone smoke it, unaware of its effects and has an accident. The shop that sold it would be wide open to a negligence claim and quite rightly so. It seems to be very irresponsible for anybody to be selling it with no warning of what it may have in it.

In court, panel chairman Mr Le Marquand heard how the youngster, who admitted both charges, had been stopped by police in an unmarked car on 31 August near Victoria Road for carrying too many passengers.

St Saviour centenier bernad connor said that the boy had carried 4 friends in the back seat as well as a front seat passenger. When questioned by the officers, the boy was shaking and incoherent. He was arrested when cannabis was found in his car.

A doctor's report said that the boy, who fell asleep while being interviewed by the doctor, had admitted smoking spice before his arrest and the medical was that he had been unfit to drive through drugs.

Advocate Sue Pearmain, defending, said that the teenager had smoked a joint of spice at his friends house before he drove his farther to town. he had then picked up his friends and put the extra passenger in the back.

Advocate Pearimen said that internet research she had carried out into the effects of spice showed that it left users feeling 'quite floaty' and was given a 'star rating' of five cannabis leaves on one user website.

The boy had no idea of what was going to happen and it is quite worrying to see the effects they describe and the effects on someone driving a car.'she added. The advocate who is the chairman of the misuse of drugs council, said that she would be looking into the sale of spice. It is banned from sale in Guernsey.

Mr Le Marquand's comments come months after former Health Minister Stuart Syvret said that spice was likely to be banned if it was found to damage health.

[Joe Duffy]

From the BBC website


Tuesday 9th January

A legal alternative to Cannabis is on sale in Guernsey. The smoking mixture,

called 'Spice' claims to result in similar effects to smoking cannabis, but

doesn't contain any banned substances. The authorities are due to meet

next week to discuss the implications of the herbal mix, as Roisin Gauson

reports... Click here to Watch

[Alfa]

That file needs realplayer. Grr.

Anyway. It seems that things are going wrong for spice gold.

[Mint boi]

What will the gov be able to do about spice? Surely they can't ban all its ingredients? And if they just ban spice there are plenty of products waiting to take its place. Can anyone suggest what action they might take?

[Mona Lisa]

SWIM has tried both and finds Regular more like a Sativa while Gold is more of a couch lock like an Indica. Sativa is actually more dreamy with more euphoria while the latter is more of a direct stone. Both give SWIM cotton mouth, munchies and music appreciation.

As for banning it, SWIM would consider that difficult (due to so many ingrediants, and legal ones at that) -- especially as the suppliers/resellers could simply repackage it or something similar under a new name. They could also advertise it as a herbal relaxant rather than as a legal alternative to marijuana.

Personally, SWIM considers it daft that they don't advertise it in a more subtle way, to avoid these very sorts of issues that are beginning to arise. Using cannabis slogans is only asking for trouble in SWIMs opinion.

[chrisn]

I think they would at least have to figure out the intoxicating ingredient before banning, and I think many people are quite curious what in spice is actually getting them high.

[Alfa]

A gov can ban pink dwarves if they want. Spain has banned many products by name. They can either ban all ingredients listed on the pack or analyse it and ban the most important ingredient. That would only take them a month.

[JaWill88]

swim really wished he could know what is in it that makes it illegal in the U.S that's the million dollar question for swim. any ideas?

[Bajeda]

Originally Posted by JaWill88

swim really wished he could know what is in it that makes it illegal in the U.S that's the million dollar question for swim. any ideas?

I do not believe that Spice Gold or any of its active ingredients are illegal in the US, or any country for that matter. At least not explicitly. The manufacturer seems to have made vendors agree to not market/sell spice in certain countries because of their harsh anti-drugs stance or the presence of legislation that could be used to easily term spice illegal, which could start a chain reaction of bannings in other profitable markets.

What would make it illegal is that it works pretty well and is fairly similar to cannabis. Can't be having that now! But again, to my knowledge it isn't actually banned anywhere as of yet.

[Smarthead]

Likely the US analogue act makes it a scheduled product, as since the new definition of 'positional isomer', it covers almost anything and a bit. But I guess we will soon find out if the DEA starts raiding certain spice vendors in the USA.

I read on another site that there was an incident in the USA where soldiers where toking spice gold and the army base staff made a big deal out of it. Does anyone have more info about this?