Vivarin(Caffeine Pills) VS Meth

[Psilocybe S.]

I did some searching on and off the forums, but I couldent find enough information.


I'm battling an everlong meth addiction..I can seem to stay clean for a few months, but then i'm back at it again. I was talking to my doctor who for whatever reason suggested that I go out and by some caffeine pills. I looked around online for the differences in caffeine and meth, and I know they are great.


The pills alone are no greater than just drinking coffee right? We all know that meth is way stronger than coffee..


I'm also wondering the LD50 of caffeine. The only thing I could find was 250-300 mg is a moderate dose. I want to know the MAX amount you can take at once/in one day.


I plan on purchasing Vivarin(200mg of caffeine a piece). What are the most common side effects I can expect, and how well do they memic any of the effects of Meth?

[hacnslash]

while meth gives you some level of euphoria, caffeine does not (at least i've never heard of it). it just stimulates you, basically like ephedrine.

[William_Again]

I wouldn't recommend caffeine, I read somewhere that the LD50 was
somewhere around a gram and above. I don't know if this is true, but I
once crushed up 700 mg of no doz and drank it...it woke me up and got
me a bit energized, but then the sickness came and I spent the next 5
hours puking and the next two days in bed.

[Df1337]

I'd have to agree with William on this one. I have taken large
amounts of caffiene in the past and always end up feeling very
bad. Stomach cramps and nauseua will definately ruin the extra
energy you do get from the caffeine.

[William_Again]

try yohimbe if you are looking for a stimulant alternative, I have never tried it but it appears to have good results.

[tweakerfrommars]

Yohimbe is also a strong sexual stimulant, so be aware of that.


No, caffeine will never be of any help breaking your addiction. It simply isn't strong enough. What worked for me was finding a less addictive substitute drug to use when I had meth cravings, and then break yourself off that. Worked for at least one other person I know. He used marijuana, I used DXM.


And I'm not sure about the overdose on caffeine (the 1g figure mentioned above sounds close). But I do know that the average adult who takes more than 675 mg of caffeine a day for an extended period of time risks developing cancer and severe kidney problems. A doctor said that in Reader's Digest (not sure of the issue).

[brooklyn718]

Try the amrt drug Acetyl carnatine, It is available at most stores. It is more "satisfying" than caffine, it increases your mental facilities as well as pleasant stimulation. A gram dose of this will produce good effect, esspecially with a cup a green tea.





Caffines lethal dose is around 8000 mg or above. Do not take over a gram in a day, caffine will make you sick over that dose. Caffine pills are different than natural caffine. The eeffect is different and coffee drinkers know this, the synthetic caffine has much more of a sharp effect, as to the pleasant stimulation of a cup of coffee in the morning. One i had taken 400 mg of synthetic caffine citrate and was nirvis with anxiety and i was bouncing around like ajerk

[BEEKSc1]

i have been taking adderall for four months and i needed to do my hmwk and i didn't have my pills, so i bought some caff pills. i took one and didn't feel shit. i took another one a half hour later and i got a minor jittery feeling, but still didn't improve my attention, concentration, or focus whatsoever.


have you tried Yohimbine HCl? it is marked as body building product, but i think it would be marketed more as a diet pill


i also read somewhere that 20mg of methamphetamine is roughly the equililent of 600mg (meth: caff:: 1: 30)Edited by: buekerc1

[William_Again]

you could try BZP (if you are lucky enough to get it shipped to where
you live) or possibly 2AI and some other RC that has stimulant
properties, there really is no replacement for meth where ever
you look.