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Old 21-09-2013, 21:44
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Meth/Benzo Speedball risks?

AFOAF's sleep deprived mind begs forgiveness for spelling/grammatical errors in advance.

Ethyl Alcohol avg~57% to 43% water was used to solve 1 mg lorazepam (tablet) and 30 mg temazepam (emptied capsule), drawn through cotton, then pushed through 3 separate filter syringes (i.e. at least two alternating layers of coffee filter paper and tightly packed cotton in each syringe) to minimize binders/fillers slipping through (oh micron filters...why so few, far between, and expensive?). This was divided into two 100 unit/1CC insulin syringes resulting in a total volume of .45CC in each and then diluted with water containing an unknown measurement of methamphetamine (eyeballed at less than 100mg total) and added to bring the volume of liquid in each syringe to about .75CC each.
How scary would this be with 80mg Propranalol (beta blocker) amd 5mg Prazosin (alpha blocker) taken within an hour of the shot and with recent consumption of one, 10mg Cyclobenzaprine (skeletal muscle relaxant/tricyclic anti-depressant) per day for the last seven days, and one 2 mg Risperdone taken more than 24 hours previously at first attempted sleep cycle during a light meth (poor quality, acetone insoluble cutting agents added...grr.....) binge (daily use of "just enough" to get a good buzz, not be overwhelming, but still be a detriment to sleep). Has no scale, so can't provide exact amounts, sadly.
On to day two without sleep, feeling a bit ragged around the edges, synthetic canibinoids the night prior did little to help (one of the two locally available brands normally has a gentle, but strong sedating effect as it wears off).

AFOAF has UTFSE to the best of his ability, but is not absorbing as much as he'd like to claim, and thinks that one of the two prepped doses should allow for acceptable mediation of meth crash and sufficient sedation to sleep sometime before tomorrow. Or is he just too binged out to be playing witch doctor right now, and should just suffer through until the crash finally takes him down?

Yes, he had read several "injecting benzos" threads, including the 7 page sticky, and knows that alcohol solved benzos are terrible for the veins and has no plans of repeating this procedure in the future (not to mention he is currently on a Lorazepam taper to come off the temazepam/zolpidiem cycle he was carelessly left on for most of the last year and his synthetic canibinoid influenced mind cooked up this cocktail in the wee hours of this morning-using his last temazepam capsule in doing so).

He would just like to know if he made any obvious, glaring, potentially injurious or fatal errors in his cocktail.
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Old 04-10-2013, 08:31
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Re: Meth/Benzo Speedball risks?

Okay dude youre a unique case, im half irritated by you yet thoroghly humored. 1. alfoaf same as swim and equally frowned on as with any variable. 2. meth and benzos combo is probley leaving your brain in a confused wtf state. 3. Coke is healthier than that fake weed. GET GREEN! Honestly ontop these tips if you cant get a strong moodstabilizer/hypnotic to kill dope sleplessness and come down. I advise mid-highdose seroquel + 10-15 20mg max of ambien. That combo will even out comedowns and kick your ass right into bed even on a fresh ultra-meth tweak. Dont mix with benzos tho. That dose and type of benzo for tweak sleep is worse than a bad joke. No rude intended but youre ass backward in every way. On my worst tweak binges 300mg seroquel 100mg diphenhydramine and 15 even 10mg ambien had me passed the F-ck out within an hour and the seroquel took edge off comedown...if i woke up before they ended.

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Old 16-11-2013, 01:13
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Re: Meth/Benzo Speedball risks?

Hey There, 3GAL!

Ok, let's establish 2 quick things here -

1. Very few of us here have any qualifications, well intentioned as they may be; We are only speaking from personal experience.

2. You, (like me and every other substance enthusiast here) is going to ask for advice, read it, and then go ahead and do whatever we want anyway, right?

AFOAF strongly agrees with Drummingstoned20. Meth and Benzos are gonna leave you super foggy and confused in most cases, on a really good day. AFOAF has a kick-ass Dr prescribing 1mg Klonopin twice daily. On days that AFOAF is going to meth himself astronaut high, he does not take the klonopin. It can be effective to avoid a multi-day-run crash and burn scenario, taken at a low dose immediately prior to sleep, but can also be risky. That being said, we're talking about meth IV, so risk is part of the game, right? Drummingstoned20 is offering good advice on the Seroquel.

Second, AFOAF used to be a hopeless Alcoholic, and wound up in the hospital for weeks on end combining alcohol and benzos. Again, just one guy's experience. I know you're talking about Ethyl here, and not a fifth of platic-bottle vodka, but again - be super careful with this.

Good luck, have fun, and be around to do it again.
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Old 18-11-2013, 21:08
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Re: Meth/Benzo Speedball risks?

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He would just like to know if he made any obvious, glaring, potentially injurious or fatal errors in his cocktail.
If you don't count injecting benzos as an obvious, glaring, potentially injurious error....

But they're not going to be the drugs confusing your body when combined with meth, the propranolol and prazosin are. If you're taking both of these regularly, stimulants are a bad idea. Synthetic cannabinoids might be just as bad. And no one should take antipsychotics unless absolutely necessary. They're not harmless, they can fuck up your body worse than meth.
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Old 12-12-2013, 07:20
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Re: Meth/Benzo Speedball risks?

AFOAFOSWIM (have some humor, please =p) finally got back to this, not meaning to bump a dead thread, but just letting everyone know he is alive and well.

AFOAFSWIM's primary care physician told him that propranalol was safe - even beneficial to take with the meth as it would theoretically mitigate potential harm, although he did not seem to familiar/certain with the safety of such a combo. AFOAFOSWIM's own research was a little less reassuring, but adding a selective alpha-2 blocker (prazosin, also good for nightmares) seemed like a prudent addition.

Further research in the intervening time between original post and now has AFOAFOSWIM feeling a little better with his understanding of how GABA works, and mixing benzos with meth, while not likely immediately beneficial, should cause relatively little harm, as GABA slightly reduces the impact of excitory neurotransmitters like dopamine and norepiniphrine.
The shots did prolong the sleep deprivation to a given degree, but did seem to "take the edge off" of the tweaky jitteryness.

Risperdone, as an anti-psychotic, directly blocks the action of dopamine and, to a lesser extend, norepinephrine and a 2mg dose at night (+25mg hydroxyzine pamoate - antihistamine with minor anxiolytic effects and 10mg prazosin - this even worked when AFOAFOSWIM took WAY too much one morning, he just doesn't like how hydroxyzine pamoate "feels" and was too tired to consider its use) has allowed AFOAFOSWIM to sleep at night off of minor doses (not measured on scale, but eyeballed around 50-75mg) of meth in the mornings. It is something of a go-to drug for him when he needs to...well...it's not really possible to "abort" a meth high, but certainly reduce the impact of one.

In repsponse to drummingstoned20 (now banned I see =( ), AFOAFOSWIM can't take quetiapine fumarate, as even a dose of 50mg nearly killed him (awoke to sleep paralysis and labored breathing lasting over an hour), and does NOT recommend mixing zolpidem tartrate with meth unless at LEAST 24 hours have passed since last dose of meth.
Everyone's body chemistry is a bit different, but AFOAFOSWIM's experiences in using 10-30mg of zolpidem to enforce sleep after 24 hours up (12 hours use, 12 hour comedown/crash) failed 2/3 of the time. AFOAFOSWIM found that the fasted/most potent non-injected ROA for zolpidem was sublingual, followed by slow-steady-snort. One such failure resulted in auditory halucinations of satan introducing himself to AFOAFOSWIM (background noise of bathroom fan) and assuring him that if he did not change his ways, he would be given a solitary confinement cell in hell.

FAOAFOSWIM would like to close by thanking the members who responded to his thread, and for the care and advice they offered.

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