Strawberry Fields - PZA and IPOMA wtf??

[tre2005be]

swim was looking around at a legal highs website and stumbled upon these pills they are selling called strawberry fields, heres the description,

"Yes – this product is named after the famous LSD blotter. And yes – we have stolen - I mean borrowed – some of their artwork but we couldn’t find the artists to pay them any royalties! The long awaited new product from THC is well worth the wait. Strawberry Fields combines a blend of IPOMA and PZP to produce one of our most intense highs for years. This product is the first really viable alternative to the recently banned, very much missed psilocybe magic mushrooms .: Experience: Our customers have experienced heightened acoustic perception, colourful visual trails and outbursts of laughter. This products is not for the faint-hearted so if you are not ready for a full-on experience leave this one alone..: Dosage: The two capsules are a strong dose. Depending on whether you have a full stomach or not you should start feeling the effects within 50 to 90 minutes. The effect should last between 4 and 7 hours.Packet contains 2 capsules"

wtf fuck is pzp? is it another piperazine? and wtf the fuck is IPOMA, the closest thing that i cant think of to IPOMA is Ipomoea violacea (morning glory). any idea on what these dodgy pills contain?

[Thirdedge]

Yup, pretty sure its a mix of morning glory and Piperazines.

[geezaman]

Heres the ingrediants list-
Ingredients: Amino Acid Blend, Ipomoea Convolvulaceae, Gelatin (Capsule Shell), Sida Cordifolia Extract, Paullina Cupana, Caffeine, Piper Nigrum Extract, 1-benzylpiperazine, 1-(3-trifluromethylphenyl)piperazine, Magnesium Stearate
If thats what you were looking for?
seems it does include morning glory anyway

[radiometer]

^ That sounds truly awful.

[Alfa]

Makes me wonder what is in that amino acids blend. Some amino acids can provide a strong kick in the but. Espoecially in combination with other actives. The ingredient list alread consist of many strong psychoactives. Morning glory, Pseudo-ephedrine, cafeine's, BZP / TMFFP. To many for my liking. I would be verywary of this product, but I may be wrong.

[Thirdedge]

In NZ more often than not Amino acid blend means 'useless filler that misleads people to think the product has some health or recovery benefits within the blend', in reality it is usually too small amount to be of any benifit.

[Riconoen {UGC}]

swim ordered some out of sheer curiosity the other day, he'll post a trip report when they arrive.

[geezaman]

Well Riconoen looks like we will have 2 reports on the product, for the first time in a long time SWIM ordered legal highs without first consulting DF, SWIMs arrived today. SWIM is already slightly unhappy because the back of the packet says it contains 6 800mg caps, it only contains 2, SWIM was only expecting two but it makes the product seem shoddy if they don't even know how many they are including.
Is the 800mg part right?, SWIM does not have his scales and so hasnt a clue.
there is also no advice on how many to take, just the normal "take on an empty stomach".

also interesting the ingredients seem different to the list SWIM found on the net, (also in the UK ingredients have to be listed from largest to smallest quantity, not alphabetically or randomly)

Ingredients
Ipomoea convolvulaveae, gelatin (capsule shell), sida cordifolia standardized extract (alkoloids), paullina capana, caffeine, citrus auranthium standardized extract (synephrine), piper nigrum standardized extract (piprazine)

[Nagognog2]

Looks like they are trying to claim piperazines are natural products. More bullshit.

[IdiotBox]

Originally Posted by Nagognog2

Looks like they are trying to claim piperazines are natural products. More bullshit.

Usually they use something like "Synthetic equivalent of standardized extract of Piper Nigrum" which I had to read at least three times before it made sense. But yeah, either way, BS.

[Riconoen {UGC}]

looks like it will get us both swimmmers really tweaked and with lsa effects added with it.


and nagog, they do it to get past customs. clever bastards these smartshops are.

[Fantasian]

Looking forward to hearing SWIY's trip reports.

[Riconoen {UGC}]

ha well swim got it today, clever bastards those smart shops are, didnt even get a look at customs. look forward to taking it tonite. wish swim luck.

[geezaman]

Having never done piperazines before, SWIM considered it sensible to emerse himself in the piperazine world gradually with the product Trip tastic, It was suggested that they be taken on an empty stomach. Over the weekend SWIM met up with some old friends and enjoyed 3 XTC pills the night and realised upon waking at midday the next day he had not eaten for over 24 hours (this for SWIM is rare) so he took advantage of his empty stomach and downed 2 trip tastics with orange juice at around 3pm, it was suggestd that they would take between 50 and 90 minuits to begin to have an effect after 1 hour nothing was noticed except slight nausia, so SWIM and Co retired to his room and put on a fear and loathing DVD, within 10 minuits SWIM left them for the bathroom and after a short while threw up. For vomit and throwing up it was not too bad and the feeling of nausia left so SWIM returned to his friends and the film shortly after sitting down SWIM felt odd but in an interesting way and slight visual distortions were noticed, Within 10 minuits SWIM again had to visit the bathroom and again threw up. SWIM did not throw up again after this. On returning SWIM was suprised to find himself definatly feeling trippy (he had only been expecting somthing one noch above placebo to be honest) Well after this SWIMs memory is somewhat fragmented, he remembers that he was much more talkative and open but also that things previously normal seemed to capture his focous and become the subject of his stare for some time, SWIM also remembers becoming explorative unscrewing unscrewable things like door knobs and bits of radiators but also found it quite enjoyable. SWIM also saw some of the posters in his room in a new way from a different perspective where although vertical rarther than horizontal they still made scense just a different sense, SSWIM found himself bieng regularly suprised by objects had taken part or moved but then forgot about and wondered how the change had ocoured. the come up seemed to be about 40 mins from starting to feel effects plateauing for about 4 hours and slowly tailing off over further 2.5 hours. At some point within the pateau nos was also enjoyed, although no memory of the nos high actually still resides with SWIM, SWIM does remember (just not wether it was before or after nos) that for about a 40min period actual and imaged (on posters) objects had chaser fairy lights surrounding them and it was beautifull. (no chaser or fairy lights actually existed). at around midnight SWIM drank some alchohol he would guess about 5 shots worth, but it seemed not to have any effect, SWIM kept hydrated on OJ throughout the experience and sipped water upon waking throughout the night. SWIM noticed No hangover of any descrioption.

The suggested dose was no more than 2 caps (each cap bieng 520mg in comparison to strawberry fields pair of 800mg caps) in 24 hours.

will add ingredients list later
peace

[Riconoen {UGC}]

took two of them, within an hour swim felt energized and very very happy, also everything had kind of a halo of light around it, felt a great body high when listening to music that lasted for hours. some ierd psychedlic effects too, like some weak closed eye visuals, colors looking bolder and more colorful, seeing tiny details he never noticed in things before, and swim could ponder deep philisophical shit without making his brain hurt. the comedown was hell but a benzo took the edge off of it. all in all a good trip, swim will definatly do it again.

[geezaman]

What follows below is a narrative which may take the form of 1st 2nd and 3rd person depending which is appropriate to the story

it is a sober mind letting itself wonder into the possibility's of what drugs may cause (it is fiction and i post it on behalf of someone else)

SWIM took 2 strawberry fields pills roughly 1 hour ago, after about 15 minutes felt sick but nothing has as of yet come of it, today swim has had 4 cups of coffee, 4 slices of toast first 2 at 8.30 second 2 at 3pm and some raisins, also roughly a liter of cola, this (sadly) was as near as he could (easily) get to taking them on an empty stomach as suggested.

1 hour in SWIM is noticing changes in perception. Peripheral vision is odd, also concentrating on straight edges makes them curve slightly, a ruler is now carried every where just to check the straightness (strange but it seems logical) , these effects are similar but to a much less extent to the LSD simulator in the software section of this site.
On looking in the mirror SWIM is aware his pupils are dilating in and out quite rapidly
Minor basic CEV patterning also SWIM has noticed that the edge of his keyboard is highlighted in red, like a photo thats gone wrong where the red blue and yellow don't exactly overlap. The feeling of nausea returns.

10 mins later-

SWIM has noticed he is Sweating though does not feel hot, the room is in fact 23 degrees C.
SWIM has been wandering around his room with no purpose he can think of but has noticed interesting visual and cognitive effects, for example looking at a wall with a door on it has no meaning its just a rectangle with another rectangle on it. things are loosing they're meaning and becoming only basic shapes, SWIM still feels that although the meanings are gone he would recognize something that shouldn't be there.
Another effect SWIM has noticed is printed lettering becoming more imposing or bold SWIM can only explain it like looking at black block letter writing on a red background, the letters seem to really stand out with this color scheme, well all printed things in SWIMs room now have this effect.
SWIM feels that being sociable and interacting with his flat mates would be to weird and too much right now, probably mainly because the nausea is still very present, so SWIM has lock his door to ensure he is not forced into a social situation.
Just looked at a calculator and it is pure (SWIM knows its actually dirty and scratched but) if concentrating it looks pure like new and untouched from its box, it also looks more 3D than normal though that makes no sense and is crystal clear as if normally SWIM sees it at a certain quality and now is is visible in high definition.
10 Minuit's further-
previously noticed effects seem to have gone away a bit, but they could still be there just un noticed- flat things forming rounded edge though continues and is still interesting. SWIM washed his hands and found warm water on the hand to be strange best describe as if the hand were an onion, split in to layers or skins, each skin sensing heat and other sensations at different speeds each layer of the with many layers of sensation. Another effect SWIM has observed is corners expanding and sometimes contracting but not being they're normal 90 degrees.

10 Minuit's later (roughly 1.35 hours after ingesting)-

SWIM has introduced some toys to aid his enjoyment, of the effects, these include -a holographic dart flight, blue tack (lots of), a thick lens and glow in the dark bouncy ball,
he intends later to watch -dark city,or the mechanist (neither of which he has previously seen or the old favorite fear and loathing but doesn't really want to watch it again yet having watched it 3 time in 48 hours a few weekends ago when influenced by E , possibly some cartoons also.
SWIM has noticed that when looking at things other than his PC screen, it seems to change, being tinted in different colors in the peripheral vision
SWIM has turned off his main light, the dark seeming calmer and helping to reduce nausea which is still over shadowing the effects.
SWIMs pulse seems slightly raised, and visual distortions are becoming stronger, a 500ml coke bottle just on the edges of SWIMs vision now perfectly resembles a washing up liquid bottle of a different shape, right down to the green liquid inside. Although the effects are certainly good and impressive to SWIM, the fact that every time he coughs he almost wretches is continuing to overshadow the experience. Minor OEV pattern repetition over the whole of SWIMs vision

20 mins later
1.55
Swim has slight jaw ache and seems to have been inadvertently clenching SWIM has also watched the Wes southern animation (from the file section) and appreciated it a whole lot more, it seemed pure, simple essence, SWIM doesn't believe in aliens but is confident it would be by ways similar to this they would communicate. SWIM feels there is a part of the film he is just short of getting something, a sense it stimulates but we don't know we possess, but is aware that if he does it will be bliss and pure beauty
20 mins further.15
SWIM feels that nothing has changed much for some time, still everything looks different CEVs are simple pixel colors, So SWIM has decided he is going to add nos into the equation to try and force a peak, do some poppers and then go for a walk, the idea being that the change in scenery will again make things Interesting SWIM feels confident the effects will continue to roll rather than peak and this would be disappointing. Another possibility is smoking some MJ leaf with HBWR extract (a smokable form), the HBWR extract when smoked provides interesting and quite strong wallpaper like pattern OEVs.
20 mins later 2.35
SWIM set himself up with 6 balloons and enjoyed (one of which he had promised himself would not be used again because of its disgusting state), while listening to alone jealous and stoned by the Secret Machines through ear plugs, media player visualizer on full screen, he also had his lens handy, the nos definitely caused a peak and was empowered by the strawberry fields effects, SWIM got fully into nos, enjoyed about three nos trips. the lens also came into its own and was far too interesting. On coming down from the nos objects can be manipulated to have no depth just basic 2D shapes on a background. SWIM prepared some more nos, on coming out of one of the tripps he had an amazing sensation that he was the music, due to wearing ear plugs the music seemed to be right within his head, which was truly amazing. the same music from within head occurred again and he felt the music flowing through him (very enjoyable) he also saw believed he was in his mates living room, and was surprised when he realized he wasn't. in addition he saw a friends face and then the face proceeded to cover his whole vision, an animated form of it covering the walls, and then animation eyes doing the same, at some point in this SWIM let out a strange scream far too loud and is convinced his flatmate's probably heard but it was really really intense thus also amazing

its now roughly 9.50 and roughly 2hours 45 minuits in and SWIM is off for a walk, though its pouring with rain , SWIM thinks it will be worth it.
SWIM returned from his walk at 11.50
SWIM lives fairly near to a golf course and his walk had explored its grounds, going outside even though it was cold and wet definitely was a good idea
as it sparked off new interesting visual aspects, trees in SWIMs peripheral vision seemed all the same thickness and all at the same angle, like stone columns, (they are not all the same in any way) added to this tracers of the street lights were very big and fantastic. The golf course undulates allot and has quite a large height difference between high and low points and so it was quite interesting to find SWIM could not judge gradients at all, concave areas of the course would regularly decide to be convex instead, and areas of differently cut grass took on the appearance of pools or lakes while pools and lakes bear'd more resemblance to grass, on one occasion SWIM was walking around the edge of a "pool" and found he had stepped straight into a pool, the first one he had been going around in fact being grass, luckily SWIM was wearing boots so this didn't effect his mood, just made him more careful. the only way SWIM as able to safely cross some parts was my staring 3 feet ahead and moving slowly, looking any further ahead simply invited the ground to change and morph into what was not real and caused on a number of occasions SWIM to fall down, up, or, into things, when he stopped though the constantly morphing view over the city an horizon were beautiful
When nearer to home and safety SWIM did smoke some MJ leaf and HBWR extract and this did add to the effects in the way SWIM had hoped.

SWIM had to draw on his short supply of soberness on returning as some of his flat mates were still up, and he didn't wish to explain the ins and outs of what he had done , why and its effects etc etc so fabricated a story as to where he had been and why then disappeared into his room, the comedown had definitely begun.
although the nausea subsided considerably for the middle area of the trip, beginning to comedown re awakened it and SWIM proceeded to feel nauseous for the rest of the night, SWIM went to bed at 1 am but was troubled by a thought and got up to check it out, although he had looked for the info 6 times before in the past Few days for info regarding an essay, it was in this last come downey search that he found it, his nausea was thrice increased when he realized the essay was in for 4pm that day, due to this SWIM didn't sleep and the comedown was joined with frantic work on his essay, he just got the essay in the next day, though it was very sub standard, but was still proud of his efforts considering his situation. Because he was awake he kept hydrated and busy and was not badly or typically hungover the next morning SWIM would describe the hangover he did feel to be like the E hangover but mainly the mental rather than body effects and a very sedated version of the E hangover at that.

Would SWIM do them again? - yes
Were they worth they're cost?- yes
Considerations for future- they need something else to reach a peak, so next time SWIM will spend longer considering another drug to mix with them, also some anti nausea tablets or a real fast before ingestion will be adhered to.
all round 8/10 because they actually did what they said or what SWIM expected and to a better degree than he thought they could.

[radiometer]

Apparently a side-effect of this drug is becoming a post whore.

this button is a good one ->

[geezaman]

Originally Posted by radiometer

Apparently a side-effect of this drug is becoming a post whore.

this button is a good one ->

ah apologies, swims mind was not quite completely on posting, he also thought the time stamp might be useful in plotting where he peaked etc, can posts be removed? basically if SWIM were to edit and put all into 1 post could the others be removed?

Well, it was good and interesting, but did not peak on its own which disappointed SWIM, the only other negative side SWIM noticed was the nausea which was very present in the first part of the trip but came back through the comedown
SWIM had been stressing about an essay that he overheard someone speaking about in reference to today, but after 3 checks of his shit found only 1 due in on the 27th, well before turning in last night he had 1 last look, and found it, he had been searching all day before doing the strawberry fields but to no avail
So stayed up all night typing and thinking on it till about 30 Min's ago when he handed it in. Reading as words formed patterns was difficult, SWIM is not in high hopes for his essay, but other than nausea, no headache or other noticeable hangover effects. Within the past hour shapes have changed in unnatural ways but SWIM believes that to be due to sleep deprivation rather than after effects

[radiometer]

^ Lol, it's your thread really...if you want a zillion one-line posts in it that's up to you! Cheeky monkeys, writing under the influence!

I was just pointing out that to add to a post you've made, it's a lot neater to hit the Edit button than to keep making new posts!

[geezaman]

I know what SWIY means
SWIM considered he would prob write about 4 posts total- pre, coming up, just after peak, and come down. but it all was a bit over whelming

SWIM agrees that 1 or 2 posts would be lots neater. Always good at thinking after the event, he will prob type into word next time then write it up onto here

one of the things SWIM particularly likes about DF is that a majority of posts are thought out, relevant to where they are, and interesting, and there are not endless threads of 1 liners so feels bad having now done it himself

is there an option available to gold and or platinum users to remove posts?

[radiometer]

is there an option available to gold and or platinum users to remove posts?

Nope, we're stuck with our posts too. If you want to neaten up the thread, copy the text from the short posts into one of your earlier ones, and leave a placeholder like "delete this please" in the posts which are no longer necessary. Then, ask a mod or admin to clean up after.

[kryptik]

swim thinks strawberry fields would be something she'd like to try.. but doesn't like the idea of throwing up even once, let alone twice... some swim's up here didn't throw up, while some swims did... and most swims up here took 2 pills. what if you only took 1 pill? do you think that would make swim throw up still?

what can you do to avoid the nausea? swim would like to try these, but don't want to throw up.

[geezaman]

it is possible that SWIY will less likley throw up if taking less of somthing that would othrwise make them throw up, but no one on any forum can give SWIY a definitave answer, everybody is different, it for the individual to know their body, mind, and limits. fasting before consuming drugs that may make SWIY throw up will likley lower that chance that vomit will happen.

[Thirdedge]

A large hit of Ginger can greatly help with Nausea, but its still there lurking underneath.

[kryptik]

swim thinks all these complications w/ what you have to do in order to offset the nausea is bullshit and a waste of time and money... swim thinks it's not worth it if you have to do all this just to have a legal experience. swim wonders if same thing would happen if she just took the real thing?