MDMA - effective protection products

[WrtngCocaineTutorial]

4. Bromocryptine

Bromocryptine is a D2 (dopamin2) agonist utilized in treatment of Parkinson’s disease. It is an excellent scavenger of hydroxyl radicals and has been demonstrated to block methamphetamine neurotoxicity. It is more neuroprotective than Deprenyl in the hippocampus and may provide protection of lipid membranes by inhibiting hydroxyl radical and suppressing DA turnover. (216)

Dostinex and Bromocryptine have the same action as a D2 agonist. Dostinex is suggested to enhance MDMA sex

[darawk]

Originally Posted by WrtngCocaineTutorial

4. Bromocryptine

Bromocryptine is a D2 (dopamin2) agonist utilized in treatment of Parkinson’s disease. It is an excellent scavenger of hydroxyl radicals and has been demonstrated to block methamphetamine neurotoxicity. It is more neuroprotective than Deprenyl in the hippocampus and may provide protection of lipid membranes by inhibiting hydroxyl radical and suppressing DA turnover. (216)

Dostinex and Bromocryptine have the same action as a D2 agonist. Dostinex is suggested to enhance MDMA sex

SWIM has a few boxes of bromocriptine here that he ordered for another reason quite a while ago. He may just try this out on his next roll.

[WrtngCocaineTutorial]

good! let us know how it goes! And if the sex drive is higher when SWIY combine them,

[WrtngCocaineTutorial]

The study I found about ALA suggested that 1800mg was well tolerated.

Yesterday I flipped through "Total Nutrition" and they suggested daily use of 1-3 grams.

the book is published by Muscle and Fitness, which is one of the highest repute magazines in Bodybuilding, so if they say it's safe,than it is safe

[Bajeda]

Swim rolled twice this past weekend. Friday he used St. John's Wort on the come down to help ease off the roll and then supplemented it with 5-HTP. The next day he took another 150mg or so of 5-HTP about 4 hours before rolling, plus some Vitimin C at some point a friend gave him. Swim hadn't rolled twice in a week before, preferring to space out his MDMA use, but has to say that he rolled pretty hard. The next two days swim took more 5-HTP in varying amounts. He felt pretty good throughout for the most part, besides being a bit tired from irregular sleep hours. He doesn't know if he will use St. John's Wort again on a come down as it made him feel a bit weird, but he probably will continue to use 5-HTP and look for other protection products.

[Fantasian]

SWIF recently felt quite bad on a comedown, this was relieved within the hour by 100mg of 5-HTP. SWIF has noted this now for the second occasion and therefore does not believe it is placebo.

[Bajeda]

Originally Posted by Fantasian

SWIF recently felt quite bad on a comedown, this was relieved within the hour by 100mg of 5-HTP. SWIF has noted this now for the second occasion and therefore does not believe it is placebo.

You may find this interesting to read then ------> Attenuation of MDMA Induced Neurotoxicity with the Serotonin Precursors Tryptophan and 5-HTP

Wish there were more studies involving 5-HTP and MDMA neurotoxicity. Might try to dig up some in the near future, but out of the few studies I've found so far that could have been potentially informative this is the only one I've been able to access.

[WrtngCocaineTutorial]

They way I see it is that 5-HTP can be neuroprotective if it's taken during/before the roll. But unfortunetly this is the only study I know of, and here they both use mega doses, and use a anti parkinson drug to make the 5-htp more active in the brain..

But it's most important action is to raise serotonin levels, which really doesn't have anything with neuroprotection to do..

[Bajeda]

Originally Posted by WrtngCocaineTutorial

But it's most important action is to raise serotonin levels, which really doesn't have anything with neuroprotection to do..

Thats why more studies are needed on the subject.

In any case, swim finds 5-HTP most useful for several days after rolling to prevent him getting any weird feelings from his seratonin levels being out of whack. He finds he feels better just taking several 50mg tablets a day starting with right after he comes dwon from the roll. Not sure if this is placebo or not, but whatever it is its appreciated.

[Hallucinogen]

You shouldn't OD on vit. C, FOOLS, reading your posts makes me wanna biatchslap you all, or watch you actually take what you wrote

[Hallucinogen]

You shouldn't OD on vit. C, FOOLS, reading your posts makes me wanna biatchslap you all, or watch you actually take what you wrote

Also, your body flushes out anything about 250mg of vit. C in a few hours, it's much better to take Esterified vit. C therefore, it stays in system for longer

[Peace Frog]

SWIM is interested in that Vitamin C/Saline graph...

SWIM and his friends have discovered that fruit tastes amazing while rolling on E,

Would there be any co-relation between tolerance and Seratonin levels VS. that discovery?

[WrtngCocaineTutorial]

..bump..

[RaverHippie]

thanks for the bump this is a great thread...

Here's a message my raver friend sent me about his pre-loading and post-loading rituals.

"A very vegetable heavy meal (dark leafy greens). He always prefers a natural source of vitamins and minerals and adds that vegetables are fricken tasty!

He also prepare things like sliced oranges or red peppers to eat before and during roll. light flavorful things because actually eating while rolling is never fun. If no oranges or red peppers then a vitamin C supplement is taken.

100mg 5HTP immediately at the end of roll. 100mg again upon waking up from the crash. 100 mg the next morning wake-up whenever that is.

after this regiment he reports of a a week-long "afterglow" sort of like the happy euphoric feeling while rolling, without everything else ecstasy gives.

He also toys with the idea of consuming grapefruit juice prior to the MDMA, just for potentiation. From anecdotal evidence it has some strong effects."