Drug info - AMP - Chocamine + Geranamine + caffeine

[Nahbus]

SWIM just received 2 free sample packets of AMP, it contains Chocamine and Geranamine, with some caffeine. Has anyone tried this stuff yet? I've heard good things about it, just wanted to know what you guys thought about the product.
He has 4 pills, says to take 2-4 once per day. Not sure if SWIM wants to take 2 or 4 as he doesn't have any more.
What do you guys think?
Thanks, peace.

[Nahbus]

Couldn't find much info. Anyway, SWIM will post his experience here. He just took 2 of the pills (3:00PM). *cross fingers*
Hope this is good for SWIM and not some gimmick.

[Nahbus]

its about 30 minutes later. SWIM says he does feel a slight energy boost, and has that kind of "wired" feeling. Slight mood lift. It's subtle, could even be a placebo... but SWIM doesn't think so. He likes where it's taking him so far. Maybe he'll pop the other 2 in a bit?
So far so good, though. Nothing stunning, but nice cozy happy energy.

[Nahbus]

SWIMs leg is cozily bouncing away right now
It's subtle, but not, says SWIM. He does enjoy it. Definately something he would take at work. Wonder how long it will last, and if it will keep going up up up! He hopes so!
Hmmm. This is pretty decent says SWIM.

[Nahbus]

Damn. SWIM says it feels as though it's getting stronger by the minute!
He feels like blasting music and doing pushups or something! Not jittery or anything... it feels quite nice!
SWIM is prone to getting higher effects out of almost every drug he takes, though. Bear this in mind.

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Thanks for this report.

[Forthesevenlakes]

merge yo posts before the drug goblin comes down and clubs you for not doing so!

sounds interesting though, swim is going to get a hold of some soon and do a report too

[Alfa]

SWIM's friend takes 4 for a good bounce around the dance floor and is very satisfied with the stuff.

[Nahbus]

SWIM took the other 2. His shirt came off. That means he is very energized
He does like it.
P.S. Alfa, do you know if it's ok for SWIM to drink on these in a few hours?
Haven't read anything saying not to..

[Alfa]

Here is the advertising text of AMP:

GeranamineT is a naturally occurring compound with adrenaline-like properties that has very potent and noticeable energy producing effects. It also has a very low toxicity (as determined by LD-50). Compared to ephedra its subjective effects are more central than peripheral, leading to a much more pleasant and tolerable energy enhancing experience.

Chocamine, a powerful stimulant possessing hunger-demolishing properties, earns inclusion in ErgoLean AMP. Chocamine contains several natural ingredients to both thwart hunger and stimulate the central nervous system.


Caffeine is well established as a fat-burning gadget. Its presence in AMP, coupled with GeranamineT and Chocamine, makes this new weapon the most powerful and effective fat burner/energy enhancer on the market today.



CAUTION!
Consult with your physician before using this product, particularly if you are taking prescription medications. Not for persons under the age of 18. Women who are pregnant or nursing should not use this product. Do not use this product if you are at risk for or are being treated for high blood pressure, heart, kidney, thyroid or psychiatric disease, anxiety, depression, seizure disorders or stroke. Do not combine this product with any other thermogenic or stimulant product. The recommended serving of this product contains about as much caffeine as a cup of coffee and individuals with caffeine sensitivity should consider the amount to take. Everyone's metabolism is different and may respond differently to the variety and amount of each ingredient in this product. Do not exceed recommended serving. If you experience any adverse reaction to this product, immediately discontinue use and contact your physician. Do not take near bedtime as it may cause sleeplessness.



I see no remark about alcohol and see no problem in combining alcohol with either cafeine on chocamine. Geranamine I don't know.

[Forthesevenlakes]

every time swim has drank on stimulants he regrets it, no matter the stimulant, but swiy might be different! wonder if anyone else here could say for sure.

[Nahbus]

I remember once when SWIM drank on yohimbe, although this is DEFINATELY NOT ADVISED!!! Anyway, he had a REaaaaally good time. Euphoria through the roof. Then he puked. But the fun parts were very good
SWIM will have a few beers and take it slow (if he drinks. well shit. he only has liquor. haha. Oh well, he wont be drinking for another 3-4 hours or so anyway)

[Alfa]

Yohimbe is a totally different thing.

[Thirdedge]

Geranamine is apparently extracted from Geranium essiential oil and shares some of the desirable properties of ephedra, not to be confused with Guarnine, a name sometimes used to describe the caffiene extracted from Guarana.

Could Geranamine be the future of herbal xtc?

[Alfa]

Geranine contains trace amounts of an amphetamine by nature. The producers say that they have maneged to to potentiate this a lot.
Nahbus, what is SWINB's his view on the effects of two capsules of Amp? I see the Dutch smartshops are now selling 2 caps sample packs.

[Nahbus]

As SWIM recalls, there were definately some minor similarities to amphetamine.
It was more smooth and anxiety-less, and it came in waves.
Music hopped him up, like most stimulants do (CRANK THAT SHIT AND BOUNCE AROUND)
and talkative level increased.
He feels he took a very low dose, and is now contemplating getting some more and trying a higher dose.
He doesn't remember any bad comedown or anything of that sort. Pretty calm, soothing semi-euphoric energy.
He forgets if he was any more motivated than usual.
Of course, it is kind of hard for SWIM to remember details because this was a while ago.

SWIM suggests others try this and post experiences. He definately thinks it is a worthwhile drug, and is eager to try it again. Didn't seem like any bodyload or anything.

Sorry this is all the information SWIM can remember, but perhaps soon he will try double the dose he tried previously, and of course, post an experience report.

[Beeker]

SWIM figured the cost to try was low enough for, "what tha hell."

SWIM isn't expecting much as a Dexedrine prescription user.

[snapper]

The GeranamineT must be doin it, because the other two ingredients have been sampled by SWIM and are both caffeine like.

[AntiAimer]

This product did nothing to Smurf. He took all 4, from his sample pack at once. Didn't get any adrenaline speedy like effects.

[Alfa]

Originally Posted by AntiAimer

This product did nothing to Smurf. He took all 4, from his sample pack at once. Didn't get any adrenaline speedy like effects.

There are 2 caps in a sample pack. What product are you talking about??

The active substance in Geranamine is methylhexaneamine.

[Beeker]

SWIM gave AMP a try after two days off Dexedrine. 2 pills were taken at 8am. SWIM did not get any effects other then what SWIM would get off slamming a energy drink only the effects lasted longer. For the price SWIM would recommend HOT-ROX but ONLY if you can read the label before buying as BIOTest is a shady as hell company.

SWIM also got the newest formula of HOT-ROX that just got shipped out to every Wally-world type place and found this to be a focusing agent similar to an energy drink and a low dose (10mg) of Ritalin or Adderall.



Supplement Facts:Serving Size: 2 Capsules


Amount Per Serving:


HOT-ROX Extreme Formula: 950 mg
A7-E Super-Thermogenic Gel 50/700 [lauroyl macrogol-32 glycerides, p-methylcarbonylethylphenol, 3,17-dihydroxy-delta-5-etiocholane-7-one diethylcarbonate, Sclaremax (propriatary sclareolide), piperine, yohimbine HCl, caffeine.


Other Ingredients:
Lauroyl macrogol-32 glycerides, gelatin, FD&C red #40, FD&C yellow #6, titanium dioxide.


SWIM would reccomend you only get this stuff local as, apparently, BIOTest has changed the HOT-ROX formula over 6 times in the last 2 years. SWIM finds that people loose weight more effectively on this stuff then Ephedra like compounds of the past but for something like a party pill replacement this is worthless. It is a better Ephedra weight loss and light stimulant.

[darawk]

Whenever I really really need to focus and get something done for work I take 6 amps. I don't get much in the way of euphoria or a 'high' per se, but I can focus intensely for extremely long periods of time on this stuff.

Since Amp contains such massive quantities of caffeine(almost definitely to prevent abuse of the geranamine), you can't take more than 6-8 of them without getting sick. But, i've heard that if you combine it with theanine(which can block the effects of caffeine) you can take a significantly higher dose without adverse effects from the caffeine. I suppose you could also try to extract the caffeine, but since we don't know exactly what the 'geranamine' is, that might not be so easy.

Combining Amp with another stimulant called H.E.A.T. is reported by a lot of people to give a pretty good euphoria or 'god feeling'. Personally, i've tried them together and it just made me feel hot and somewhat uncomfortable, but I have seen a good number of positive reports from other people.

PS: Is there any reason that propylhexedrine couldn't be sold for consumption in an energy drink/diet pills? I know it'd probably be banned almost as soon as it hit the market, but since it is already OTC, i'd think someone would have tried to take advantage of it with this whole energy drink craze of late.

[Nicaine]

Originally Posted by darawk

Whenever I really really need to focus and get something done for work I take 6 amps. I don't get much in the way of euphoria or a 'high' per se, but I can focus intensely for extremely long periods of time on this stuff.

Interesting how many people are claiming amphetamine-like effects with these pills. Perhaps SWIM should revisit them one last time. Anabolic Xtreme's "Stimulant X" appears to be about the same formula as AMP.

PS: Is there any reason that propylhexedrine couldn't be sold for consumption in an energy drink/diet pills? I know it'd probably be banned almost as soon as it hit the market, but since it is already OTC, i'd think someone would have tried to take advantage of it with this whole energy drink craze of late.

Propylhexedrine is supposedly unscheduled in the US (and Schedule V in Canada). However, SWIM think the U.S. status is due to it being limited to a single product (freebase mixed with lavender/menthol, soaked in cotton inside Benzedrex inhalers) and that it would probably be scheduled fast if that ever changed.

[Nicaine]

SWIM took ~1.5 and didn't enjoy the feeling much (not to mention he got calf cramps the next morning). The caffeine probably ruins it for him, as he can only take the stuff in smaller doses.

Alfa, in reference to post #14, which amphetamine is present in Geranamine (or whatever it's called)? TIA for the information.

[Nicaine]

Thanks for the correction. Fwiw SWIM's original bioassay was for AMP, not Stimulant X.

[AntiAimer]

All Smurf knows is, AMP did absolutely nothing at 4 pills.(Sample pack) He is also surprised with all the postive statements as well. Maybe for Smurf takeing 10-20 pills may do something, but then it would be a waste of money. For Smurf, caffeine/any caffeine like substances do nothing, so the high amounts wouldn't matter. Smurf highly doubts the high amounts, are to stop abuse. For most people, caffeine will just wake them up, not give them energy.(Anyone Smurf knows for the most part) Smurf really cant see how anybody can use it for energy, unless there highly sensitive or they haven't drank loads of soda or any other substances containing caffeine all there life. The caffeine is mainly just to potentiate the effects of the other substances.

PS, Alfa, theres 4 pills in a sample pack of AMP. Meaning theres two doses, not sure what product your thinking of but this topic is on AMP. Smurf knows Nahbus states he got 2 free sample packs, which are 4 pills in all. Either they changed it so 1 pack contains 4 pills in all, or Nahbus made a typo. If he got 2 sample packs that should equal 8 pills in all, meaning 4 doses. Also on the page where you sign up to get your free sample, it shows two packs, they most likely changed that. Maybe to save money, smarter to put it all in one pack.

Anyways the guy who made this stuff or w/e, is getting sued and jail time. From what i've read, he didn't list all the ingredients. Namely, he didn't list Geranamine nor it's real name Methylhexaneamine.

It is illegal to sell dietary supplements without listing the ingredients by their common or usual names, according to Robert Moore, the Food and Drug Administration's Team Leader in the Division of Dietary Supplement Programs.

Source: If you wanna read more on it.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...700913_pf.html