can a CWE be done with thease?????

[tooktomuch]

" Generic Tylenol - 200 pills
325mg Acetaminophen, 15mg Caffeine, 8mg Codeine"

[acexnx316]

Well if they are just generic 200mg Tylenol tabs (Acetaminophen), with no other active ingredient(s), then a CWE (Cold Water Extraction) would be pointless since the main purpose of doing a CWE is to seperate and GET RID OF the Tylenol, not to seperate it and keep/use it.

I know you said you had to re-type it, so maybe the pill(s) do contain something other than Tylenol. If they do, just re-post and I'll check it out and reply again. If all the pills do contain is Tylenol though, then you should just re-read the first paragraph that I typed

Pz.

[tooktomuch]

lets try this again
swim says that the pills are
" Generic Tylenol - 200 pills
325mg Acetaminophen, 15mg Caffeine, 8mg Codeine"



the question can a CWE be done with thease?
will the Caffeine still be in there after a CWE?
and since swim has been taking 5/500 apap hydro/cod. how much would swim have to take in order to get the same results as 2 5/500 hydros.
swim has a way to measure out to .10ths of gram or less.

swim does not know how much the 5 part of the 5/500 is . is it 50 mg, or 5 grams ( this would seam to be a high amount ) the 500APAP swim knows what that is.

swim just does NOT want to take 24 tylenol pills to get the 10- MGs or grams of codeine that the 5/500 hydro/cod has. that would be 7800MGs of Acetaminophen and 360MGs of caffeine. swim thinks that that would be prolly an OD of acet.

swim thank you for the input.

[acexnx316]

Originally Posted by tooktomuch

lets try this again
swim says that the pills are
" Generic Tylenol - 200 pills
325mg Acetaminophen, 15mg Caffeine, 8mg Codeine"



the question can a CWE be done with thease?
will the Caffeine still be in there after a CWE?
and since swim has been taking 5/500 apap hydro/cod. how much would swim have to take in order to get the same results as 2 5/500 hydros.
swim has a way to measure out to .10ths of gram or less.

swim does not know how much the 5 part of the 5/500 is . is it 50 mg, or 5 grams ( this would seam to be a high amount ) the 500APAP swim knows what that is.

swim just does NOT want to take 24 tylenol pills to get the 10- MGs or grams of codeine that the 5/500 hydro/cod has. that would be 7800MGs of Acetaminophen and 360MGs of caffeine. swim thinks that that would be prolly an OD of acet.

swim thank you for the input.

K. I'm gonna make this short and sweet. They Tylenol #1 w/Codeine will still have the Caffeine in them regardless of whether you do a CWE or not. The Tylenol may get filtered out for the most part so it would be helpful in that way, but you may wanna watch your caffeine intake too since caffeine is water soluble, just like Codeine, Hydrocodone, Oxycodone and most other opiates. And I don't think you wanna be all wired out on caffeine when you are trying to get high off of opiates.

The others you have, the 5/500 stand for 5mg Hydrocodone (Not 5 grams or 50mg) and 500mg of Tylenol (Acetaminophen), just like it says (Could be 5 grams of Oxycodone instead in some cases, but you said it was Hydrocodone). Anyway, you can do a CWE successfully with those because the only other active ingredient in them is Tylenol, no caffeine or anything.

So there are your basic answers in black and white. Lemme know if you have any other questions.

Pz.

[tooktomuch]

for the record swim is not looking for a HIGH off of the opiates. he is just looking for some other way to help ease the "IN REAL LIFE" pain he has in his knee.
swim has something called chondromalacia in his left knee.

thank for the help.
swim will do a CWE but i will remind swim to watch the amount of caffine intake trior too and after ingestation.

[tooktomuch]

swim is going to try a CWE with the tylenol #1's swim has 600 so he is going to try 300 at first. then swim will try ( if it works ) the 5/500's maybe 50 at first. to see. ( swim does not want to waste his supply )

also shouldn't CWE really be callled WWE ( warm water extraction )?

[Forthesevenlakes]

the cooling of the water is what really separates the codeine from the acetaminophen. both codeine and acet. are soluble in warm water, only codeine is soluble in cold water. hence the term CWE.

[bcStoner420]

^ actually (unless my research is wrong) acetaminophen even at room temperature water still has a very very low solubility rate of 1000 mg/70 ml of water at 31 Celsius. We all know 1000 mg of acetaminophen isn't anywhere close to a lethal dose, in fact is actually still a therapeutic dose. In this case the extra time to cool the water really is not necessary, although it does minimize the acetaminophen carried through the extraction. Unless you have a really bad liver in the first place 1000 mg of acetaminophen is really nothing at all to worry about (it would probly be less anyway since you wouldnt normally use 70 ml of water). Acetaminophen is quite soluble in BOILING water so that's a big no no.

for anyone intrested in a shortened version of the extraction which will still put them far into the safe zone (for the average healthy person, of course) then check out my post on this thread http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...d.php?p=130758

BTW, SWIM has done his shortened procedure many times which would have otherwise killed any person on the planet and has had his liver checked within the last month and it's perfectly healthy.

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thank you..

[tooktomuch]

thanks for that info.
swim did have a drinking problem and had used meth for 4 years on a daily basis.
swim does a liver cleanse often along with colon cleanse, kidney cleanse. and others.
but to be safe swim thinks that a CWE is the way to go. besides SWIM can always take a plain ol' tylenol.

[Forthesevenlakes]

might be better to just do the CWE on the hydrocodone. the idea of consuming that much caffeine from the tylenol 1's makes swim a bit sketched out. he's done cwe on large amounts of them before and would feel a bit restless and a tightness of his muscles from the caffeine. very uncomfortable when swim is trying to enjoy a codeine buzz. swiy may not have trouble with it though if swiy is using it for pain control, which generally requires lower doses than recreational use.

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nice comment on the caffiene, can definately ruin it.