Lacing Salvia with DMT

[vantranist]

SWIM was woudnring if this would be possible? He was thinking desolve the dmt crystals into some water, put the salvia in it then let it dry out (rinse/ repeat if not all was abosrbed)

however before he tries it he would like some more opinions on doing this...

and he does also relize he can put the crystals themselfe on teh salvia... like parsley method i guess, but he really wants to lace it.

thanks.

[jesusfreak666er]

Ye swim guesses its possible, Why one would do it idk... Swim recomends using each seperate, Swim guesses if a state of complete insanity is desired w/e but it might just be too much, Swiy should look into the differences in desired burning temp... Salvia is rather high, swim isnt sure about dmt never smoked it, Since it is usually smoked in a vaporizor (lightbulb like thing) swim would guess its not as high but just a guess, get some other opinions...

[Bajeda]

Originally Posted by jesusfreak666er

Since it is usually smoked in a vaporizor (lightbulb like thing) swim would guess its not as high but just a guess, get some other opinions...

DMT doesn't have as high a burning temperature, but it isn't smoked in vaporizers, as the substance will stick to the glass. A straight out pipe is the best way to go.




Why exactly would swiy want to lace salvia with DMT? It is possible to just sprinkle the DMT on the salvia, and it doesn't seem like a combination you would want to indulge in that frequently.



Here are some trip reports for the combination. It seems like quite the experience, though not something to do habitually.

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=8842
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=44002
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=49585

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good erowid report links, props..

[vantranist]

hehe ya SWIM is well aware of the effects that may be caused... if its not phsicly THAT dangurous hes up for it... anyways yes swim didnt think about the tempeture, i heard sally burns very hot, any flame that hot would probly destroy the DMT. altho im not sure.

[bearded]

For what it's worth, SWIM did a similiar experiment.

10mg of DMT was dissolved completely into 2ml of naptha in a glass test tube. In the same container, SWIM then added a little more than a normal hit of Salvia 10x extract.

SWIM shook the piss out of this, and the naptha turned green. SWIM seperated the naptha from the salvia leaves, and rinsed the leaves with naptha two more times.

Combined all the liquids, and then allowed to evaporate completely. Scraped it up, and freebased it into a lightbulb.

Smoking it, SWIM first felt that downward spiral pull he normally feels on salvia.

Then SWIM blacked out for about 4 or 5 minutes. He doesn't remember anything that happened, just that he drooled a lot. No headache, no other negative side-effects.

SWIM doesn't know if this would be a good combination, as both substances are really intense and really quick acting, he thinks it overloaded his brain so it all just shut down.

[Benzhead]

If done properly, SWIM feels that this would be super intense. Perhaps beyond compare.

As Bajeda and vantraquist noted, the temperature delta between unlocking Salvinorum(the active ingredient in S. divinorum) and DMT would make this a bit of a trick.

See the balance of the post.

It is not clear to SWIM that the high temperatures needed to vaporize Salvinorum would not destroy DMT unless measures were taken to isolate the DMT from the high temps. Hence SWIM is told that this admixture is typically experienced by loading the two substances in two suitable pipes.

SWIM is told that the DMT is typically 'smoked' first, then immediately followed by the S. divinorum. It should be noted that a sitter may be required to handle the S. divinorum pipe, as the subject may not possess the motor skills once these substances enter the subject's mind...which in all likelihood SWIM will temporarily forget they possess.

SWIM has witnessed a reported level 3 DMT experience morph into a level of infinite strangeness(as if DMT wasn't strange enough), by properly smoking a single large hit of standardized 20x S. divinorum extract. Complete loss of any notion of the self was described in this taped session. "I am not..(unrecognizable)." This was followed by garbled sounds and other such indicators of total separation of subject from ego. Speaking and/or reacting to others was not possible, as the sitters tried to communicate with the subject. The subject appeared to be a combination of bewildered and frightened, yet made little sound after the first futile attempts at communication.

Combining a fast acting tryptamine with a relatively novel agent like Salvinorum is certainly an area for further study....under clinical conditions of course.

SWIM thinks it should be pointed out that the unbelievable strangeness of this combination(as reported, of course), makes this a journey only the most intrepid and experienced of entheogenic SWIMmers should ever consider undertaking.