Is this a dissociative?

[dip]

I really don't know, can't tell and can't find out what SWIM smoked.
-SWIM was mildly drunk before he smoked it.
-he says the joint was a smooth, tobacco-flavored smoke, and the 1" joint/roach took a long time to smoke.
-lighting his finger until it turned red, he felt no pain.
-15 minuets after finishing, extreme non-stop laughter. Just could not stop. This lasted about 10 minuets.
-Cops show up, in which paranoia took over. SWIM had difficulty breathing with long and very deep breaths.
-Walking was tiring and robotic-like.
-feeling of dissociation (?) and extreme social isolation
-felt like he was trapped, and couldn't communicate or even speak to other people.
-when called by name, he put his hands up infront of his body ... trying to find his dissociated mind?
-about 3 hours after smoking, experienced diarrhea.
-next morning, woke to find his lip completely black with dried blood from being bitten (don't remember biting at all)
Comparing with other dissociate experiences, it might be 1 of those 3 substances, or what else could it be?

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[Bajeda]

Wow, sounds like an interesting experience!!

As the method of ingestion was smoking swim suspects the substance could be PCP, as the other disassociatives aren't really smoked.

The fact that swiy lit his finger and didn't feel it also adds to this suspicion, as swim remembers doing things on PCP that should have hurt but didnt.

Swim also relates to the laughing part. He remembers when he smoked a joint laced with PCP (not to his knowledge) and shortly afterwards went to his friend's dorm room. His friend fucked with him for a bit, twitching his head while pretending he wasn't and making little funny faces. Swim was laughing hysterically. The weird part came after though as swim's friend had stopped making any faces but swim couldn't stop laughing. He would stare at his friend and if he made any motion whatsoever swim would find it hilarious! He couldn't stop laughing for about 15 - 20 minutes.

So yeah, swim highly suspects PCP was the substance in question.

[xypex982]

Wow that makes swim rember one time when a freind got some bud and when swim and swim's chick freind smoked it we felt alot like how swim dip felt.

--The bud took a while to smoke (out of a pipe)

--15 minuets after finishing, extreme non-stop laughter. Just could not stop. This lasted about an HOUR OR MORE!!!

--Walking was tiring and robotic-like.

[Alicia]

Weed can also cause giggles make people extremely lethargic where movement feels like that for short or long periods depending on strain and individual sensitivity and persides doesn't pcp have other effects when smoked like full blown hallucinations,other effects etc. Also pcp being laced with weed is very very rare apparently. odds were it was just strong weed.

[DJ]

SWIM remembers smoking several tokes from a corncob pipe that was supposed to only be normal weed. SWIM was crouched down with several friends under the staircase of a hotel to avoid detection.

SWIM and SWIMs friends noticed something was wrong when SWIM and SWIMs' friends were laughing at the fact that they kept dropping the pipe onto the ground and spilling the contents. It occurred to them then that this would normally NOT be something that is humorous.

Upon realizing something strange was definitely up, SWIM and his buddies all walked outside of the staircase and noticed that they were all walking in robotic like motions and that the cars that were travelling by were approaching extremely slow but as soon as they got close enough they seemed to shoot off at a fast rate... the headlights on the cars seemed like spotlights with an unusually bright and wide beam to them like a helicopter light that shines down...

SWIM and his buddys decided to try to eat at Taco Bell and it wasn't happening. SWIM was very paranoid that everyone in the restaurant "knew"... SWIM was frightened. SWIMs friends didn't help matters by picking on SWIM and telling SWIM that he was dusted.

SWIM felt a sense of great strength. Felt like the incredible hulk. Literally felt as if he could just go up to a car and push it out of the way.

There were times when it seemed like a nightmare that wouldn't end b/c SWIM was concerned that he may have smoked weed that had been laced with roach spray or possibly something even worse.

The next day SWIM was sick (possibly from the taco hell?) and had diarrhea and was dry-heaving what he can only explain to be something like yellow-ish jello... still to this day hasn't upchucked anything similar.. .SWIM thinks it could have been the bodies natural defense to rid itself of such a toxin.

SWIM now looks back at that experience and arrives to the conclusion that he smoked weed laced with straight PCP whereas most times its usually mint leaves laced with 7%-14% PCP and the rest embalming fluid. SWIM has even encountered mint leave PCP cut with olive oil for some odd reason. Maybe to keep it from drying out?

SWIM is guessing that you had PCP laced weed, no doubt. Unless it was a dirty trick of someone spraying it with some type of bug-killer or something.

[Bajeda]

Originally Posted by Alicia

Weed can also cause giggles make people extremely lethargic where movement feels like that for short or long periods depending on strain and individual sensitivity and persides doesn't pcp have other effects when smoked like full blown hallucinations,other effects etc. Also pcp being laced with weed is very very rare apparently. odds were it was just strong weed.

Don't know which incident you are referring to.

In swim's case his friend bought from the sketchy armenians again and this time they told him upfront that they could give him a sack with PCP in it.

It was a different guy who sold the last one though.

Maybe they just gave him the wrong one. In any case swim is pretty sure it was PCP. Weed doesn't make you hallucinate that you are walking on air a few feet above the ground and doesn't make you laugh THAT hard where your chest hurts the next day because of it.



Swim doesn't know if swia has experience with PCP, but he believes that swidip's experiene sounds quite like it rather than weed. You can definitely tell that it isn't just weed you are smoking when you get a laced substance. And lacing weed/hash is more common in certain areas than in others. In the Middle-East swim encountered hash laced with opium or heroin quite a few times whereas in the US or Europe he never has. Location makes a difference, as does source.

[IHrtHalucingens]

Id have to second the PCP guess from the clues given. SWIM has experienced all of the said feelings and experiences while on PCP so it seems very plausable. But in reality its very hard for anyone to tell you for sure just educated guesses.

[Alicia]

Oh well just my opinion.. and yes certain head sativa strains can cause visuals,mindeye visuals depends on the users head. and yes you can laugh your ass on weed for ages and have bad chests the next day. swia knows it happen to her ! the hole thing with pcp in laced with weed is old. Also weed can cause u to feel like your floating once again depending on the strain.
depends on the delicate individual to begin with..

DONT get me wrong thou PCP is PCP

[Bajeda]

Originally Posted by Alicia

Oh well just my opinion.. and yes certain head sativa strains can cause visuals,mindeye visuals depends on the users head. and yes you can laugh your ass on weed for ages and have bad chests the next day. swia knows it happen to her ! the hole thing with pcp in laced with weed is old. Also weed can cause u to feel like your floating once again depending on the strain.
depends on the delicate individual to begin with..

DONT get me wrong thou PCP is PCP

Ok correction, there are possibly strains of weed/hash that make you see/do really crazy trippy shit like I described for swim earlier.


But I really doubt there is a strain that can produce all of these effects at once from less than 0.25 grams smoked really fast in a joint

[Alicia]

Originally Posted by Bajeda

But I really doubt there is a strain that can produce all of these effects at once from less than 0.25 grams smoked really fast in a joint

That seems more unlikely to be weed, but who knows.. maybe i should by a crystal ball already got me tarot cards. PCP is also measured in small amounts so possibly.. but still rare me thinks. but we are all here to learn

[Bajeda]

^^^^

lol

Swia should step out of her cozy apartment sometime. In the ghettos of the Middle-East and immigrant neighborhoods of Switzerland she should be amazed at what she could find mixed with weed or hashish!

It just makes swim laugh when people in the US bitch about finding seeds in their pot! They have no idea how good they have it there safety-wise!

[Forthesevenlakes]

Originally Posted by Bajeda

It just makes swim laugh when people in the US bitch about finding seeds in their pot! They have no idea how good they have it there safety-wise!

so true, baj. swim has heard some crazy stories about weed that can be purchased in mexico and turkey, and what its mixed with. swim doesnt know if theyre just that, stories, or things that have happened, but he would not want to find out. even in the US, pot can be adulterated with other substances (god only knows why, since most drugs are much more expensive than pot), for example, swim's good friend, ms. lab rat, once was given pot dusted with pcp...but such incidents are few and far between! the fact that US smokers can remember maybe one or two incidents in which people they KNOW or have HEARD OF (usually not themselves) have had laced pot shows how uncommon such things are here. americans dont always have it so bad...although swim just thought of who the president is here as soon as he typed that...so maybe he has to retract his statement...actually if swiBaj has time swim would like to see a PM or post about smoking experiences in the middle east, sounds intriguing to him =]

[Alicia]

Originally Posted by Bajeda

^^^^

lol

Swia should step out of her cozy apartment sometime. In the ghettos of the Middle-East and immigrant neighborhoods of Switzerland she should be amazed at what she could find mixed with weed or hashish!

It just makes swim laugh when people in the US bitch about finding seeds in their pot! They have no idea how good they have it there safety-wise!

awww... bless lol
its not always cozy wish it was thou.. people bitch because there used to a certain quality which is understandable..some people even get shot at if the person they try to get sold crap weed.
Swia has come across dodgy people and dubious stuff before its all about education. sadly thou those mistakes happen all the time.. yeh just gotta be careful and know your source..

[Danc9552003]

SWIM is almost positive he's got weed laced with pcp before. SWIM and some friends bought a QP and it was pretty much shit weed. So many seeds, almost brown, but it was all we could get and took it. The weird thing was when SWIM looked at it in the light there were literally thousands of little white crystal things all over it. SWIM and his friends smoked it (being of high tolerance) and noticed they could barely finish a bowl and it seemed a LOT stronger than even some good kind bud. Finally we agreed it was most likely pcp and never went back to the guy.