cream dispencer explosion

[adzket]

swim just wants to warn people to be carefull with whip cream dispencers these are seen by most as a safe way to crack chargers but swim had one go bang. the plastic screw on bit whent into his finger + brock it. the bottom where the cream would go shot into his leg this was bad for a week or so and luckly the top shot of into the celling where it puta huge hole. swim having beeing doing n20 already was abit out of it and shacken up for a while after. they dont know why ths happend. but just take care swim is thankfull he wares glasses or he thinks he may have lost an eye to.

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Thanks for the warning.

[Powder_Reality]

Thanks for the warning Adzket, and sorry for your friend's misfortune. SWIM will watch out for this. As a nitrous user, SWIM has a few questions to get a better understanding of what happened.

1. Was the cream dispenser pretty old and had a lot of nitrous blasted through it?
2. Had SWIY already dispensed a lot of nitrous through the dispenser during his seesion before it burst?
3. Did SWIY notice that the seals were freezing up and sounding brittle before the dispenser burst?

The last question worries SWIM because he has had this happen to him a number of times during a nitrous session. But most of the time it would just result in the nitrous leaking out of the dispenser nozzle slowly.

Once again sorry for your friend's misfortune and SWIM will be more careful whenever he uses his dispenser. SWIM may even have to look into acquiring a medical grade tank.

Edited by Powder_Reality for improper wording.

[adzket]

adzket asked swim those ? please note this did not happen to me so i have no misfortune for anyone to be sorry about.

1 it was a brand new dispencer
2 some n20 had been passed threw it but not huge amounts and swim lets it thaw out after dispensing
3 no they did not. they where just unscrewing an empty charger.

[geezaman]

also sorry to hear about SWIYs friends misfortune, lucky anesthetic was already in his system lol, SWIY mentions that they were unscrewing an empty charger when it happened? all crackers swim has seen say only charge with 1 charger, has SWIYs friend been chargng with 2 at a time? as this in itself is dangerous.
SWIM will refer to the little chargers 8g or 16g as caps from now on to save confusion.
SWIM has seen 2 types of crackers they vary in that some pierce the cap and the gas is pushed through a valve. It would be possable to multi charge with these, others just pierce the cap and rely on it staying screwed to the canister to hold the pressure. either way the pressure in the cap once pierced but still connected to the canister is equil to the pressure within the canister. With canisters that have cap input valves on as nos leaves the canister the pressure goes down so more flows in from the cap, thus when the canister gives no more nos the cap is removed and may pop of the end as the valve has retained a little gas in it, removing it to put a second cap in the same canister would mean that SWIY still had alot more pressure in the cap so it would fly harder further, and also the cold valve would have to suddenly stop back flow of nos. bieng cold it may not have done so thus Bang

[radiometer]

1 it was a brand new dispencer

I think SWIY had a defective cannister. This must be very rare, as these dispensers are used in homes and businesses every day without incident. If this happened with any frequency, some old lady would have sued their pants off by now, and the product would not be on the market.

[turkeyphant]

What type of dispenser was it and what was it constructed from? From you comments I suspect it was one of the cheaper 8g whipped cream dispensers with plastic parts. I also agree with what radiomete said - this should not have happened with undamaged apparatus.

[adzket]

geezaman: swim says it was the type which could hold multiple caps i.e the gas all went from the cap into the dispencer alowing them to unscrew used cap.

radiometer: swim thinks it may have been defective but has no way of knowing.

turkeyphant: swim says it was a more exspensive one made from some coted metal and it fited both 8g and 16g chargers.

anyway whatever happend it did swim just thought people should know.

[jaypeddie]

SWIM found it very easy to just take a good strong knife (not a steak knife, one thats meant for camping or a-stabbin') and just working on puncturing the tip of cannister, then placing a balloon over it. As for the intense cold: get over it. as for the loss of a fair amount of n20, only make a small hole with the knife. and this should (obviously) only be done when it is the only option. like in a dorm room one boring monday night.

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That's a really dangerous and stupid thing to tell people to do. SWIM hopes that nobody actually tries that out and inju...

[radiometer]

Originally Posted by jaypeddie

SWIM found it very easy to just take a good strong knife (not a steak knife, one thats meant for camping or a-stabbin') and just working on puncturing the tip of cannister, then placing a balloon over it. As for the intense cold: get over it. as for the loss of a fair amount of n20, only make a small hole with the knife. and this should (obviously) only be done when it is the only option. like in a dorm room one boring monday night.

What you just described is ridiculously dangerous. Did you like to pound on bullets with a hammer when you were a kid or something? "As for the intense cold: get over it." Tell that to the crew in the ER! Buy a fricken cracker before you or one of your friends hurts themselves.

[jaypeddie]

well swim has been doing it plenty, haven't hurt himself, and think you're all out of your mind saying this is ridiculously dangerous. swim failed to mention he wears gloves and wrap the thing in a towel. its honestly not that bad, swim has videos to prove this can happen upwards of 100 times with no negative effects, as long as you dont mess up. like it was posted, only if there is no other option.

[radiometer]

Good luck has a way of running out. There is no "safe" way to open a nitrous oxide charger with a knife. Flying projectiles and frostbite are pretty big risks for a 30 second high.

[Alfa]

Originally Posted by jaypeddie

only if there is no other option.

You mean when all the stores in your state have ran out off crackers? You have lost me, as I don't see the logic.
Note that what you write on here is read by a lot of people. Some may take your advise. Some will fuck up, because of what you write. Can you see the danger that?

[geezaman]

If nothing else invest in a cracker for the sake of the nos you'll loose, however well you have honed your knife wielding and balloon covering skills it really doesn't compare to a cracker.

Aside form that a knife present could make for a bad trip or dangerous situation, SWIM has been told he thrashes when deep in nos sometimes, if SWIY on your own and this effects you also, coming out of nos to find yourself covered in blood would not be good in anyway and if SWIY is doing it with buds SWIM is sure that they wouldn't enjoy watching as you cut yourself open.

SWIM is also aware that after coming out of nos his only thought is to another cap and any safety precautions he enforced with such a dangerous method of cracking would quickly fly out of the window, most likely followed by one of his digits.
If SWIY cannot afford a cream dispenser (illogical if SWIY can afford nos) it may be worth checking second hand shops for soda makers, SWIM has picked these up for about £3, they are slightly safer having less pressure inside due to they're larger volume but they work on exactly the same basis as the cream dispensers see pics.

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[Nagognog2]

Originally Posted by Alfa

You mean when all the stores in your state have ran out off crackers? You have lost me, as I don't see the logic.
Note that what you write on here is read by a lot of people. Some may take your advise. Some will fuck up, because of what you write. Can you see the danger that?

Nope, guess not. But of course this was number 101. Now our friend is in the ER with his lips frozen to a knife-blade that is currently residing in his left testicle. I sure hope this one was filmed!

[radiometer]

only if there is no other option.

The option always exists to not use the drug if one does not have the proper tools.

[London_Bloke]

Originally Posted by jaypeddie

....and this should (obviously) only be done when it is the only option.

Originally Posted by jaypeddie

..... swim has videos to prove this can happen upwards of 100 times with no negative effects.

Over 100 times with no other option? Which is it?

SWIM & mate - ROTFL Their Collective AO

[Cavy182]

SWIM wants to know why, when the proper tools are so readabley available do do many cavys make shit up as they go along? Crackers are so readibly available that to make due with such items as sharp knives makes SWIM wonder of the Darwin awards people should be alerted

[jaypeddie]

Originally Posted by Alfa

You mean when all the stores in your state have ran out off crackers? You have lost me, as I don't see the logic.
Note that what you write on here is read by a lot of people. Some may take your advise. Some will fuck up, because of what you write. Can you see the danger that?

um, thats exactly what i mean. cracker's aren't even sold in half the states in the u.s. (according to some literature i've read) maybe you honestly dont have the money on you at the time. I know the risk involved for a 30 second high is, well, high, and i have maybe caused a few future minor frostbite injuries by posting this. however, i believe the whole purpose of this site is to educate people on the whole thing, every option, and of course some of them are going to be more dangerous than others. this in some people's minds would seem a lot safer than sticking a syringe in your vein, but i doubt too many of you would be quick to criticize that due to it being already accepted. truth is, poking holes in the cannister with a knife is the quickest and possibly only way to open them if you, for whatever rreason, can not get a cracker. and i promise if something ever goes horribly wrong for me, i'll post a full discussion of it with picture and video so i can be thoroughly made fun of. enjoy!

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	dangerous advise
	idocy

[Nagognog2]

Giving dangerous advice is not allowed. Go read the rules here and take your film collection to a D.A.R.E. class.

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