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Old 12-08-2006, 12:37
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Passionflower maoi strenght?

Swim has been taking an off the shelf herbal remedy cantaining the following.

Motherwort powder 34mg
hops powder 75mg
passionflower powder 58mg
wild lettuce extract 29mg
valerian extract 50mg
and some B vitamins

Swim takes them for what they are designed. ie- to relieve worry, irritability and aid sleep, and was suprised to find that they work.

Swim takes between 2 and 7 pills a day (within reccomended dosage). This means swim is taking between 116mg and 406mg of passionflower. Swim understands that passionflower is an maoi, he suspects the maoi effect is not very strong but would like to check its strength and wether it is safe if he was to take some other substance and wether it would increase the effects at all, in perticular Mescaline and/or ephedrine. He thinks it would be safe but also needs to know for dosage purposes, as swim only has a little experience with mescaline.

Also does anyone have any comments about the other substances in the pills, for long term use.
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58 mg of passion flower is not active at all, unless it is a extract. If it is, then it depends upon what strength the extract is. It is suggested that passion flower contains harmala alkaloids. It is hard to say if your extract contains these alkaloids as well. If it is a full spectrum extract, we can assume it does.
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While you should be pretty safe, passion flowers use as a MAOI is probably closer to choclate than say syrian rue, why not just not take the pills on the day of your experiments with ephedra and mescaline, just to be on the safe side. I can,t see the pills being of any benefit to the experiments with these substances, they could be counterproductive with ephedra. They are probably to mild to be of much benefit in taking the edge of a mescaline trip.
Swim thinks the smartshops promote passionflower as a greater maoi (mushroom booster) than it really is in much the same way they claim Damiana to give a marijuana like high

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