Ecstasy Combinations

[quili]

Suppose swim had some ecstasy. Swim is intended to roll sometime within the next week. Suppose swim also had in her possession some mushrooms. She intends to use these within the next week as well. Swim also has access to coke. (She pretty much always has weed and alcohol, too.) Swim would like to know others' opinions on what goes well with esctacy. Is ecstacy and shrooms a good combination or should she use them on separate occasions and therefore have Two good experiences instead of just one? What about ecstacy and coke? Is that any good? Weed seems to mix well in general, but swim is curious about other people's preferences with this too. Advice would be appreciated. Thanks!

[Nagognog2]

If this is SWIM's first time, SWIM should not mix the MDMA with anything. One absolutely should find out what the nature of MDMA is all by itself. Ditto for mushrooms - these should be experienced without any additions being made. As for cocaine: Both MDMA and cocaine are powerful stimulants. Mixing these two could put a heavy burden on one's central nervous system and heart which could land SWIM in a hospital emergency room - or worse. Don't. People who have mixed these two generally agree that it was no fun and it wrecked the MDMA experience.

[Jatelka]

SWIJ did the MDMA/coaine combo once. The coke completely destroys the empathy/loved-up/queen of the universe euphoria she gets with MDMA and turns it into a wired stimulant fest: NOT recommended. The come down was the worst she has ever experienced.

For her the body load induced by mushrooms plus the (sometimes) nausea she gets with MDMA would be too horrific to contemplate.

[hyperlite]

Originally Posted by jatelka

SWIJ did the MDMA/coaine combo once. The coke completely destroys the empathy/loved-up/queen of the universe euphoria she gets with MDMA and turns it into a wired stimulant fest: NOT recommended. The come down was the worst she has ever experienced.

SWIM concurs.....also, what if SWIY has pills with METH in 'em......coke+mdma+meth doesn't sound good at all!

Some good herb for the comedown does sound nice however.....Staying away from any other "dopamine dumps" for at least 2 days before will make SWIY's roll very nice....


Cheers-

[matti_2003]

Swims advice would be that if swiy havent had both MDMA or mushrooms before on their own then do them seperatly. If swiy is experienced with both, swim recommends having both. Swim has done this on a few occasions and they have been highly pleasurable, however when the mushrooms kick in you really need to be sat down. This is just the affect it has on swim though and every person reacts differently.

[Akewstick]

SWIM can't comment on mushrooms, but he has had only good experience with coke+MDMA, for him it's just Ecstacy but faster and harder, the empathy gets turned into more pasionate empathy, but i guess everyone's different.

SWIM cannot remember the last time he did E without weed, and he does E pretty regularly, weed makes MDMA excellent in his opinion, it might mean you make more of a tit out of yourself if there are sober people in the room, if that's something you worry about. SWIM is just as able to dance and have deep conversations and kiss his friends and all the things he usually does when he's mixing weed with MDMA, but it makes the whole thing more surreal, and makes for extremely interesting closed-eye experiences.

Those quiet moments when SWIM steps out of the back door from a smoke filled living room on E and the music becomes muffled and he's in the twilight with the person he's decided to take a walk with, those are some of his fondest memories. SWIM would recommend mixing weed with E, as much weed as you can, I personally don't take drugs.

[London_Bloke]

SWIM a bit of a purist, and X is so lovely all on it's own - a first-timer should absolutely try each one separatly, allowing SWIY to fully experence each with no confusion as to what substance is producing a particular sensation.

That having been said, SWIM is a huge fan of combos, but only combining substances that have a similar (or synergistic) effect, such as M1/2C-I.

(is SWIM's bias towards RC's apparent here....?)

Enhance both, rather than inviting a power struggle between 2 substances.

Just MHO......

Reputation Comments on this post:

Very interesting insight on the power struggle between 2 substances.

[Elicious]

mdma and coke never ever my friend swims heart will in the simplest form explode.... i still hope she has fun, good luck swim.

[Bajeda]

Ecstasy is best combined with a relaxed atmosphere complete with good music and the people you love.

Nuff said.

[Scape]

SWIM thinks X is best combined with more X and a club with some amazing music and your friends.

Friends + X + Music @ club = Best nights ever. Atleast thats what SWIM thinks.

[Powder_Reality]

SWIM has posted this before and still stands by it. One of his favourite things to do while peaking on MDMA is to turn up some good music really loud and inhale a balloon full of nitrous. The peak moment of the 2 substances combined propels SWIM into a completely euphoric state of mind, and at a complete loss of reality.

But just as SWIM stated in his other post, the short duration and intense euphoria can leave SWIY with the desire to inhale more and more nitrous. In SWIM's experience, the repeated use of nitrous while on MDMA can lead to a very unpleasant comedown.

P.S. SWIM has tried doing a couple lines of cocaine while on MDMA, and the experience went something like this: SWIM snorted a nice-sized line of blow, and it gaves him a nice rush of energy and mood lift. But it also caused him to lose a lot of the MDMA effects, which was quite a letdown. After about 10-15 minutes, the coke high wore off, and left SWIM feeling anxious and "hollow", for lack of a better term. Completely destroyed SWIM's roll.

In SWIM's opinion, cocaine and MDMA is a terrible mix. MDMA is a much more intense and pleasurable high, and SWIM would describe it as being a much more "real" pleasure than cocaine, if that makes sense. SWIM has always felt that the cocaine high feels very "artifical", and is not worth the comedown. SWIM can handle the MDMA comedown, he just sits back, listens to some music, eats some fruit, and eventually falls asleep. If it's a good experience, SWIM can easily get through the moderate depression he sometimes feels a couple days later, and is usually left with a slight afterglow for a week afterwards. But SWIM can't be asked to deal with the comedown he experiences from cocaine. As soon as he finishes his last line, he feels a nice rush, but is immediately depressed because he knows that he doesn't have any more. As soon as the last bit starts to wear off, he becomes very anxious and irritable, and all he wants in the entire world is just ONE more line. :P By the end of the night all he can do is lie in bed trying desperately to fall asleep feeling anxious, restless, and unfulfilled.

SWIM apologizes for the rant, but he thought it kind of tied into the subject.

Reputation Comments on this post:

Your rant was right on target, IMHO

[torr_aox]

SWIM had a wonderful time candyflipping (MDMA and LSD). All the good feeling of X and the visuals of acid. Haven't tried mixing shrooms and X though...SWIM tries to keep natural and chemical separate...

Weed doesn't count. That goes good with everything.

[London_Bloke]

Originally Posted by torr_aox

Weed doesn't count. That goes good with everything.

Well, SWIM hates anything that requires fire. But you make an excellent point about candyflipping. Wonderful combo.

If SWIY combines rolling and tripping, does that make it trolling (or must one live under a bridge to troll?) We may need Nagognog2 to settle this question! He's our resident troll expert, correct?

[Bajeda]

Originally Posted by BadnessNeeds

If SWIY combines rolling and tripping, does that make it trolling (or must one live under a bridge to troll?) We may need Nagognog2 to settle this question! He's our resident troll expert, correct?

MDMA + LSD = Candyflipping

MDMA + Other Psychedelics = ???

[raven3davis]

Originally Posted by Bajeda

MDMA + LSD = Candyflipping

MDMA + Other Psychedelics = ???

MDMA + shrooms = hippyflipping and SWIM highly recommends this combo.

SWIJ might experience nausea from MDMA but this is not the case for SWIM. SWIM sometimes experiences nausea from shrooms, but combining MDMA seems to help reduce the nausea. Just because you have not used these substances before does not mean you shouldnt combine them.

SWIM agrees that the MDMA + coke combo is not for everyone but some of SWIMS friend LOOOOOVE doing coke and X.

MDMA synergizes nicely with shrooms. You get amazing tryptamine visuals with that phenethylamine euphoria that us swims all know and love. Let your eyes roll to the back of your head and the shrooms will do their magic. If you get eye wiggles.......even better!

It is a great combo but you might want to try each drug by itself before doing a combo.

[Bajeda]

^^^^

Would you be able to provide a trip report of a swim who has done this combo before? Swim is very interested and would like to know more about this. Or if swiy has already posted a trip report on this a link would be nice. Thanks.

[raven3davis]

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16126

SWIM has done the combo at least one other time.

SWIM and his friends picked this field for about two weeks straight. It was not uncommon to come back with 20 lbs of shrooms. Ahh what a waste!! half the shrooms ended up being thrown out by SWIMs friends......shoulda got a food dehydrator and stocked up! During these two weeks SWIM tripped on shrooms a few times so he had tolerance. One night he decided to take some X along with the shrooms (blue tulip) They were good pills but they probably had some stimulant added to them, which isnt necessarily bad, but dont expect pure mdma when you get a pill.

SWIM spent a lot of the time tripping with his friends in a closet, talking about the trip. The heaspace is much less pushy than shrooms alone. The trip is more controlable. Shrooms are a beastly substance. They take SWIM for a wild ride every time without a seatbelt. Well think about it like this. MDMA is like a saftey belt for a shroom trip.

Sometimes when SWIM takes shrooms it is hard to engage in a conversation with someone else. When SWIM finally thinks of something to say, he might start laughing because of something that happened in Mrs Hermans second grade class. Shrooms are a pure trip. SWIM loses his mind on shrooms and he loves it. They dissolve the ego quite efficiently. When you add MDMA to the mix it is a whole different story. If you want, you can just close your eyes and leave your body, but the MDMA can also help you bring your thoughts to words and carry on a conversation with someone besides the odd looking knome hiding behind your television.

MDMA is much different than shrooms (obviously) so it adds a character to shrooms which you will never discover taking shrooms alone. MDMA is not a trippy drug but the MDMA does add some nice visuals to the experience. MDMA perfectly softens the ego which can aid you in your journey. MDMA wont dissolve the ego by itself but when combined with shrooms the MDMA helps SWIM let go.

Very interesting combo indeed. SWIM will definitely use pure MDMA next time he hippyflips (120mg sounds about right). SWIM has only done this combo with pills, and lots of pills are adulterated so he probably hadnt experienced a true hippyflip....CANT WAIT!

This should help you understand the hippyflip a bit more. Its just one of those things you have to experience on your own. You might love it, might hate it, but SWIM knows many SWIMs who have SWAM the SWAM, and they loved it.

[Tony Blair]

I simply cannot understand people who even THINK of combining coke and MDMA.

[tooktomuch]

[quote=raven3davis]MDMA + shrooms = hippyflipping and SWIM highly recommends this combo.

SWIJ might experience nausea from MDMA but this is not the case for SWIM. SWIM sometimes experiences nausea from shrooms, but combining MDMA seems to help reduce the nausea. Just because you have not used these substances before does not mean you shouldnt combine them.

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to help with the nausea swims can smoke a little herb to help that out.

candyflipping is a nice way to do a combo. mdma and bommers is also a very good time ( the both last about the same amout of time. meaning rolling lasts somewhere between 3 to 6 hours. shrooming also 3 to 6 hours.)
for the beginner it would prolly be a good idea to expierience then on different times/ days alone. also trying to roll 2 days in a row is not a good idea. swim tried to roll 3 days in a row. day 1 was nice. day 2 was more like getting some energy back. day 3 was a total waste. no more seritonin ( sp?) means no more rolling.

also, watch out for suicide tuesdays. depression will be a factor after taking mdma. take MDMA on a saturday. swims will still feal good on sunday but, starting on monday and esp. on tuesday the depression will set in even if your not a depressed person it can be rough on friends and family..

don't waste your time with coke and mdma. total waste of time. and substance

[Forthesevenlakes]

this may be done to death, but the coke/mdma thing is about the worst idea imaginable. swim was dumb enough to try this once, thinking that 6 hours between the first E drop and the first line of coke would be enough, but he still felt his heart working overtime and was awake for about a day straight. very unpleasant stuff, and he didnt want to risk taking anything to help come down since at that point, he simply didnt want any more drugs in his system. just thought it might help to have another report from a swim thats tried it, in addition to swiJatelka's admonition which should be heeded!

swim read that some people combine E with 5-10 mg of 2C-B to help recapture the "first time magic" of E. is this safe?? has anyone tried it? swim doesnt know enough about RCs or how they work to know if this is a valid or safe combination.

the mushrooms and e combo sounds alright, maybe some risk of elevated heart rate and one would want to be thoroughly experienced with both.

[matti_2003]

Swim knows a few people who combine E and 2C-B. They usually have a few pills and then towards the back end of the night have a capsule of 2CB. Not really heard of it recapturing the first time magic though. A friend of swims had a 2c-b capsule of an unknown dose a few weeks ago after taking extasy for most of the night and said he couldn't feel anything special from it. This may have been because the effects of the MDMA were stronger and I reckon that if he had the 2CB first he would have felt very nice.

Swim has had E and Cocaine in a combination. This was not intentional as Swim sometimes swim just plans on doing coke but gets bored of it after a while and wants something to perk him up a little. For swim the affects of coke get less and less throughout the night until the point he isn't really getting any enjoyment from it.

[Akewstick]

Out of interest, did SWIMatti_2003 buy his 2cb off a dealer? or from a legal source?

I'm not asking for sources of any chemicals at all

[matti_2003]

Swim's friend bought the 2cb from a dealer.