Potentiating Methylphenidate?

[Nahbus]

SWIM wants to know some ways to potentiate Methylphenidate. He came across this:
"L-Tyrosine can potentiate increases in dopamine from methylphenidate, better known as Ritalin"
He will probably pick up some of this and try it, but are there any real known and tested ways, for recreational means? This seems promising, though.

[Forthesevenlakes]

swim's almost willing to bet grapefruit juice would do it. tying up those cytochrome p450 enzymes and all that.


look, swim's got insomnia without the aid of methylphenidate =]

[Nahbus]

Hey there!
Yeah SWIM didn't sleep all that much last night, but isn't too tired this morn, os all is well. He wants these last 5 to be saved for the whole day somehow. I also assumed grapefruit juice would work. SWIM will try that.
Mmm, that 10mg MPH and giant cup of coffee sure got SWIMs gears moving this morning

[Forthesevenlakes]

caffeine and the methylphenidate always interacted nicely for swim too, same goes for nicotine. maybe nicotine gum would work even better for work than cigarettes due to the slow release?

[Nahbus]

Yeah, I think SWIM is more addicted to the act of "smoking" a cig, using his hands, etc. Everytime he tries dip and stuff like that he's just like... "eh, well I need a cig now"
Oh well, time for SWIM to work. Hopefully grapefruit juice will work and SWIM can tame himself from taking all of these too fast, as he would like to have like 2-3 for after work. eek O_O
Oh well, I can tell it will be a good day for SWIM!

[Forthesevenlakes]

best of luck to swiy! happy potentiating!

swim is more addicted to the act of smoking, too. he's on day 3 of quitting, and after chewing the gum, he thinks, "wow, if only they had that in smokable form".

the grapefruit juice potentiates adderall swim read elsewhere on the forum...and believes according to rxlist that it will potentiate methyphenidate, please post how it works out!

[hh339]

Originally Posted by forthesevenlakes

happy potentiating!

LOL!!

Coffee does not work for SWIM, it actually lessens the effect of methylphenidate. It worked before, but not lately. Some energy drinks work well for potentiating the methylphenidate though, but I have no idea which ingredient(s) is responsible. Must try to check it out next time.

[Nahbus]

Oh, you know SWIM will spill it all!
Take care, will post later for SWIM.

[Nahbus]

Hmmm, I think I recall seeing L-Tyrosine in energy drinks, which would probably be the cause. Could be mistaken.
SWIM will try that as well (if energy drinks have that in em)

[Forthesevenlakes]

a quick search on swims part revealed that alot of energy drinks do indeed have l-tyrosine in them, which could be the great potentiator.

swim needs sleep...he's starting to wonder about the last time he used "swim" as a verb...

[hh339]

Bummer, the one SWIM is drinking right now does not have it. Or is there another commercial name for it?

[Forthesevenlakes]

dont think so, its an amino acid, not a drug per se...

[hh339]

Oh I forgot, alcohol works for SWIM. Just a beer or two!

[Nahbus]

SWIM said he couldn't find an energy drink with L-Tyrosine in it. Has like L-Carnitine or whatever, Taurine.. that stuff.
Anyway, SWIM had some grapefruit juice. Well, ok. here's a more "organized" version, which was written on a note SWIM found under a couch in this weird dark ally.
"I woke up around 7:45-8am, insufflated 10mg and had coffee. Very nice wake up call. Went and got grapefruit juice (Florida Natural, forget the size, but it was 30% juice concentrate) and drank it at about 9:30-9:45. Wait an hour and blew another 10. Not sure about the potentiation. If anything it made it like 15-20 mins longer. Anyway, the track of time wasn't really known from this point, but throughout the day (so far) SWIM insufflated 5x 10mg pills (50mg... der?). Today the euphoria, excitement and focus were heightened, maybe it was the grapefruit juice (SWIM drank 2 of these and an 2 energy drinks as well). SWIM just took another 10mg up the schnazaroony (oh, side note. This stuff seems pretty damaging to the insides of SWIMs nose [blew his nose and there was some blood]. Would extracting the pure MPH be worthwhile? SWIM would probably do anything to be as safe as possible.)

Ok where were we? See, now I have to go and read what I wrote, makes SWIM go off tangent and his mind jumps around to very random things. It's nice, though.


OK. So SWIM says as he gets more aquainted with this substance, it has seemed to show more love back. Although SWIM didn't give it much time to make him crash. He isn't worried, though... he's equipped with valium and marijuana, which did the trick last time... wonderfully.

Ok, anyway... SWIM has to get back to work! Hah. SWIM loves his job. He just had to leave because his mother was in dire need for some weed (shes an occasional smoker, about to go to some concert with her friends. I love my family)

So yeah. Peace!"

[Forthesevenlakes]

seems like there might be at least a little potentiation, at the very least there doesnt seem to be much tolerance from swiy's experiment yesterday. but yes, the more one gets familiar with methylphenidate the better one seems to be able to harness its effects.

swim thinks that he had the same problem with insufflation...the binders or whatever they put in there dont absorb at all. swim didnt get a bloody nose, but he did get a bad sinus headache from having that crap lodged in his nostril for a day last time he had a bout with it. maybe try to do a water shot 10 minutes or so after insufflation?

[Nahbus]

Yeah, SWIM just washed his nose with water and blew out a bunch of crap. His job gets pretty dusty, too.. so there was a whole mess of crap.

Anyway, SWIM only has one left. Boo. He has been coming down, took 5mg valium and smoked earlier, to smooth it out a bit. It's not edgy or anything... kind of depressing "i just wanna sit in my room alone" sorta feeling... but really it's just the super ultra excited happiness turning into "normal" feelings, so it feels worse than it really is. So SWIM tells himself
Anyway, he is going to take the last hoorah in a bit and work on some stuff, take a bunch of valium and bong it up all night.
I can see SWIM wanting to take these every damn chance he can, which kind of is bad, as he has such an addictive personality. too bad/good thing his source is not steady and can only get it on rare occasions (SWIM hates not being able to find the drug he wants when he wants it)

Another side effect SWIM noticed was an increase in his carpel tunnel. His hands kinda of stiffin up more, and his pinky gets kind of numb and stuff.
Not a big issue, though.

God, he could not shut up at work haha. He kept leaving his area of where he should be working to ramble to his coworkers, and even babbled his mouth off to the big big boss, who everyone hates. Acted VERY buddy buddy, and he was nice in return, which is rare. SWIM is very loving towards people on this drug. I think he is starting to like it more than adderall. I guess, according to SWIM, they both have their pros and cons, and should be used for different occasions.

Well.... expect more ramblings, I'm sure!

Well, there he goes! Last hoorah! (SWIM thought this was an appropriate order to his actions this evening )

[Nahbus]

Eck... yeah I think next time SWIM will just extract the methylphenidate.... Should be pretty quick and simple (assuming the binders aren't a pain in the ass..). SWIMs nose is all blegh. Oh, his mind and happiness, though. That's up there
(SWIM hates when you snort shit and it puts a weird pain like an inch from SWIYour ear. Weird jawy-ear pain. Can't forget the eye water.
Plus snorting 10mg instead of 10mg + Xmg of stuff SWIM doesn't want up his nose would be much better feeling. Probably would hit SWIM faster as well, as your nose will probably absorb the drug way faster, nothing really 'blocking' it from hittin those lovely membranes!

Jesus, SWIM feels like writing a novel or something.

[Nahbus]

SWIM wants more. It's either phone call time or diazebong time (SWIM just came up with that and thinks its pretty clever. Yep). I think SWIM received the last 10.
Yep, SWIM had the last of the stash. Boo. Diazebong time..

[Nahbus]

Thank god for Valium, on SWIMS part. He has a feeling the crash would be enough to make him not even want to do it, unless he had an infinate supply.

Man, though, there is definately "fiend" feelings with this, a lot moreso than with Adderall. It's reminding SWIM of his cocaine days.. (very much so. "gotta go sneak into the bathroom for another one" feeling)

SWIM just hates coming down from anything. Sobriety gets boring to SWIM.

[Nahbus]

Ah yes, perfect for SWIM. The valium has smoothed out the half-tweakage need more so SWIM can stay up for 4 weeks kind of feeling... but still was kinda of "blue"... few hits of the bong... All of SWIMS problems were gone.
Timing these, and the combination, is definately like a 90-100% crash cure for SWIM. Very nice

SWIM really had to get out of the 'stimulant' mindset (SWIM tends to go overboard when he's in 'stimulant phase' - SWIM justs wants wants wants, sniffs sniffs sniffs. Yippidy yap yap yap zzzZZZZAM - he usually cycles through like.. groups of drugs. Handles everything else fine.). scouraging through numbers of people who might have shit. He decided to take about 15mg Valium... kind of chilled.. then took a hit or two (so far. plenty more for him) and already feels pretty damn good. Not really bad at all (although he can still feel the crash trying like bust in SWIM little void of diazebong crash block.)
Ok this stuff is hard to explain. SWIM is actually getting a bit more wired... although the "last hooray" was really nothing except a crash potentiator.
Ah well...

(At leas its like, only 11:30 and SWIHim's not tweaked to shit, like last night. [Dammit, Forethesevenlakes. why haven't you popped out of the woodwork yet? ])
Ahh... SWIM feels quiiiite nice. He told me it flops the crash around into a differnt type of high (but the actual crash is now a little mosquito that SWIM has to swat away. Slightly annoying. Tolerable, but god damn if that would JUST LEAVE! ). Seems, to SWIM, that it is a very non-fatigued, relaxed, comfortable, happy and smoothly energetic kind of high. But, SWIM has had VERY strange reactions to a lot of drugs, very strong and rare reactions.

Well. SWIM enjoys the shit out of these things. Maybe, for him, it's good that he can only get them on occasion...

[Forthesevenlakes]

swim will have to keep the diazebong remedy in mind for the next time he gets a stimulant crash! swim hates coming down too, but stimulants are probably the worst of the bunch. with many other drugs, theres a sort of gentle transition back into reality, and with some drugs theres even a lovely afterglow. but with stimulants the crash just seems, without exception, harsh and depressing!

interesting that swiy got more fiending feelings than with adderall, usually one would expect it to be the other way around!

[Nahbus]

Welp, guess thats number three hundred and fifty two drugs SWIM has taken that had has strange reactions?
SWIM tells me, from he what he remembers, is thet methylphenidate, esp with how things went today, was VERY similar to cocaine, even kinda of better. If SWIY has enough for at least a whole day, really. Can't really go out while your crashin and fake not being a miserable mess. "Sweet I'll uh... ehh.. sit over here...."

*forthesevenlakes hears his name underneat the drugs forum in a cave.. "uh.. eh?"... the drug goblin. Man, SWIM has got to stop rambling. SWIM supposes he still is tweakin a bit... very nicely and surpisingly... just hit him now, he said. Eeeeenteresting.

Well, SWIM supposes there will be no more experiments for a while. He hopes to OH GOD DONT PUT ANY ALCOHOL CREST FREE PRO-HEALTH IN YOUR BONG, like Lysterine 'doop dee doop, oh nice alcohol-free. no thc absorbtion. rahhhh'. Ohhhhh god the pain. in SWIM. I'm uh, speaking through him.

ok. well. I dont even know if SWIM was in the middle of a sory or not but yeah. wowzers..

[Nahbus]

God Dammit, thats exactly what the doctor ordered for SWIMs sore throat.
Probably the only thing it doesn't help/cure with sickness (hangovers. one or two or three hits, eat something while you can, drink water. feel better. Depending on the kind of headache, one or two hits, a hot bath and a small diazepam dose+advil works wonders, just being sick in general, its like the damn kryptonite.)

[Nahbus]

(Side note. well actually it answers the threads question, on SWIMs part. The grapefruit juice fdefinately did something. I don't know. Today, SWIM says was amazing and highly euphoric. SWIM doesn't really take amphetamines, though.. so he IS kinda of just getting aquanted with some (but he definately felt as though grapefruit juice, EVEN if its placebo [for cryin out loud, if you think you are happier... well.... you are!])
After typing that SWIM forgot what to write.
o_O

[Forthesevenlakes]

swim just noticed that swiy had his 666th post, congratulations!

did the pseudo-listerine really go into the bong? swim may have to try that for a cold/cough when he gets it. its sounds like the mj version of a menthol cigarette. but the diazebong method sounds like a much friendlier equivalent of a panacea swim had last year called "20-40 mg liquid oxycodone for any illness"...somehow swim just couldnt stop taking his medicine.

wonder how bong hits would feel while the methylphenidate was going strong? would it take any existent edge off? wonder what the drug goblin hiding beneath d-f would have to say about that one...