Opinions - Acid Ideas

[mainevent]

SWIM has tried acid once before, around 4 years ago, and hasn't had the chance to do it again since then. But lately, SWIM has found himself wanting to get his hands on some REALLY badly, having VERY intense, vivid, unbelievably pleasant dreams where he's on acid. One dream included a trip, from drop to finish, then afterwards deciding to drop another hit and included that entire trip. All in the dream! These were easily SWIM's most pleasant dreams in recent memory, and it has made him decide to get some acid, and have another try.

SWIM thought of this. Getting sunglasses, getting some money together, and dropping a hit of acid first thing in the morning, buying a day pass for the bus, and just adventuring for the trip. Possibly with a sober sitter, maybe or maybe not. Would anybody agree with this idea? Maybe other suggestions? Another option was just to get a hit of acid, and hang out in his room all night, either alone or with a buddy, with his parents sleeping upstairs.


Any input would be greatly appreciated, and SWIM's pretty open minded to any of you guys' wacky ideas. Thanks!

[M3th]

Umm, if swiy has only dropped once before, this being the second. Since it has been so long i wouldnt dive out into the city.

I would suggest dropping again, and then if you feel comfortable. Go out, bring a sitter though.

[mainevent]

Ugh, SWIM has been reading the entire LSD forum for hours and is sitting biting his nails, with butterflies in his stomach, frustrated at the fact that he can't have some RIGHT NOW. He knows he's gonna have the dreams again, the most beautiful dreams of his life. ARGH! This is killing SWIM.

Alright, SWIM's had more ideas. This is to list my ideas and look for input, as well as a way to write things down so he doesn't forget them.

1: Buy sunglasses and bus day pass and tour downtown bus routes and malls.
2: Go to the beach! Relax in the sun.
3: Trip alone silently in the basement with parents asleep, watch some TV, listen to some music.
4: Trip alone at home in the daytime with family at work, possibly invite friend over.
5: Find a friend with an open house, trip there.

The ones SWIM is most excited about so far are number one and two, both including serious sunglasses of course. Outdoors in a beautiful Canadian summer just seems like heaven to SWIM.

[Jatelka]

SWIJ cannot recommend tripping with parents in the house: For her this would be incredibly anxiety provoking.

Tripping outdoors is always good. Just make sure SWIY is prepared for the elements: Sunblock, a hat and access to shade would be a minimum for her if she went to the beach: Body cues can sometimes be diffiicult to interpret on acid and sunstroke is exceedingly dangerous.

Buses/Malls etc would be too much for her on LSD (too many people, smells, the motion sickness etc).

Tripping during day-time with family at work doesn't sound realistic: SWIY needs a good 12 hours.

Of all of SWIY's suggestions she has to say that finding a friend who you love and trust and tripping there sounds most appealing.

[fatal]

the best way to avoid parent related anxiety (or anyone at all really) is to just not give a shit. if you dont hide things and be dishonest you have nothing to fear. if you do you still dont. unless of course you are afraid of who you are and dont want anyone to know. that is stupid. i would broadcast my personal choices on the national news if i got the chance. hiding from what you are will kill you someday. i think it is always better to be forthright and honest about everything.except with cops. then you lie and lie and lie and then make up outlandish nonsensical fairy tales and lie and lie... well you get the point... but only when you have too...

[Jatelka]

Unfortunately fatal "not giving a shit" isn't an option for many. SWIJ would love to broadcast her proclivities on the national news but then would likely never find work again in her chosen field, or if she did it would be under onerous drug-testing regimes which would preclude all indulgence

With regards to tripping with parents in the house: Fine, go ahead (if that's what you're comfortable with). SWIJ did try to explain her use of drugs, and her experiences with her parents at one time, but soon realised that it made them profoundly uncomfortable, and that they didn't really want to hear it.

Although what now exists is an uneasy "don't ask, don't tell" policy, it is better than the alternative (which SWIJ firmly believes would have been a complete breakdown of their relationship).

Anyway, enough soul-bearing. Any other SWIY's got any input?

[mainevent]

SWIM knew it, he had a dream where he went on some trip on a plane with his old school. He had a piece of paper in the dream that a friend dripped a bunch of drops of LSD on, and throughout the dream when he realized he wasn't high, he ran back to his hotel room to rip a small piece off the page and stuff it into his mouth for the droplets of LSD on it. He never got high throughout the dream, and woke up heartbroken and frustrated.

[Jatelka]

SWIJ would recommend caution mainevent: Part of SWIY's last post came very close to asking for drugs: This is NOT allowed and will get SWIY banned.

[mainevent]

Oops, sorry. It wasn't asking, more of a scream of frustration. Sorry!

[Sklander]

Originally Posted by fatal

the best way to avoid parent related anxiety (or anyone at all really) is to just not give a shit. if you dont hide things and be dishonest you have nothing to fear. if you do you still dont. unless of course you are afraid of who you are and dont want anyone to know. that is stupid. i would broadcast my personal choices on the national news if i got the chance. hiding from what you are will kill you someday. i think it is always better to be forthright and honest about everything.except with cops. then you lie and lie and lie and then make up outlandish nonsensical fairy tales and lie and lie... well you get the point... but only when you have too...

Unfortunately, SWIM or SWIY does not live in a world where they can freely express their use of LSD to the people who cloth them and shelter them without getting told to "get the hell out of the house". And to "just not give a shit" is what SWIY may think he can do, but to some extent everyone does because they have to to move forward on this Earth.

As far as tripping at home with parents home... That totally depends on SWIY. SWIM did this with his parents out of town and still felt axiety during the trip. SWIM would suggest a sympathetic friend and trip there. The most important thing is that SWIY is comfortable with thier setting. If SWIY is comfortable, SWIY will have a great trip.

Good luck.

[fatal]

im just advocating openness and honesty. lying is bad karma. no one should keep secrets. swim never made a big secret of their drug use. its part of some peoples spirituality and we arent all willing to hide who we are.

[Nagognog2]

There is a difference between a policy of non-disclosure to spare someone from having their feelings hurt, and telling them a lie. One is diplomacy. The other is reprehensible.

[The Doors]

If we want the situation to be improved, everyone who believes in the cause needs to make a stand for it. But it won't happen, people rely on their jobs and every day lives too much to sacrifice everything. How many peoples reputation have been ruined just because he is open on drugs more then the general public. SWIM himself has begun thinking he shouldn't be as open and share his knowledge as openly as he does right now. It seems people give him a weird look, but SWIM just can't stand there not saying anything while people are talking trash without making any sense!!!

Back to the main purpose of this topic, SWIY should really look into some general information on the forums and on erowid. How many times has it been stated to be a good environment where you can be as loud as you want without people giving a damn. You don't want to end bad tripping in a bus and have the parademics come and put you in the hospital, do you?

[pjbth]

LOL swim knows exactly what you are talking about when you talk about the vivd acid dreams. SWIM has been looking for 'cid for quite some time as its hard to find in his area (Do Not Contact SWIM with info on how to obtain acid in his area) the dreams are as close as he's gotten in while.

On tripping in public, not a good idea unless the swim you know has got a very hard head and knows he can control swimself and truly the only way to know is expierence and your swim doesn't sound like he/she is. Swims fav spot to trip is in a field by his house or when swims parents aren't around (swim gets to anxious to trip around his parents) his back deck with pool and hot tub and some blaring tunes.