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Old 03-05-2013, 01:21
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Most euphoric dissociative and most trippy dissociative

Which drug between Ketamine, DXM, PCP and Nitrous Oxide do you find the most euphoric and which do you find the most trippy (visual-wise introspection-wise and so on...).

I'd gladly hear your opinions
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Old 08-10-2013, 06:39
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Re: Most euphoric dissociative and most trippy dissociative

Ketamine FTW for me by far, though I have not really had too many chances to try PCP. I love K so much! It's honesty one of my favorite drugs.
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Re: Most euphoric dissociative and most trippy dissociative

Between Ketamine, DXM, Nitrous oxide, and Methoxetamine: Methoxetamine is my favorite -- beautiful mix between serotonergic/empathetic and dissociative effects. However, I love all of them for different reasons.
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Re: Most euphoric dissociative and most trippy dissociative

Dxm if you like euphoria combined with a mind fuck.
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Re: Most euphoric dissociative and most trippy dissociative

Thank you for your answer and excuse me I forgot to add MXE, Tiletamine, 3-MeO-PCP and 4-MeO PCP
That is because I ignored their existence in the past, but I've sharpened my drug knowledge in the past months and mostly thanks to this forum

My cat always wanted to give MXE and Ketamine a try as the only dissociative he has experience with is DXM and he seriously loves it.
N2O doesn't interest him that much because of its short-duration and because of tedious ROA
PCP seems a little bit too much neurotoxic, as I've read it is even more devastating to the brain than other NMDA Antagonists and also cause in anyway there is no chance he ever comes accross it
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Re: Most euphoric dissociative and most trippy dissociative

For euphoria? Nitrous oxide all the fucking way. That shit gets me happy and I laugh my ass off. But it only last for less than a minute so you just continue to do more and more and try to get that feeling to last.

I've not done K or MXE, I really want to though, but I have done DXM and PCP and while there effects were interesting (well PCP felt really dirty but DXM feels kinda dirty too) neither gave me euphoria or made me happy. They just made my mind numb and stupid. Which isn't a bad thing, it just isn't euphoric.
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Re: Most euphoric dissociative and most trippy dissociative

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Which drug between Ketamine, DXM, PCP and Nitrous Oxide do you find the most euphoric and which do you find the most trippy (visual-wise introspection-wise and so on...).

I'd gladly hear your opinions
I'd say PCP for both, Nitrous is fun but doesn't last nearly long enough, ketamine is too volatile and overwhelming for it's admittedly insane trippiness to make up for, and it tends to just make one feel gross, DXM is just stupid, plain and simple.

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That's a really accurate description of K, despite me loving it.
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Old 31-10-2013, 02:19
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Re: Most euphoric dissociative and most trippy dissociative

I have tried several different dissociates, even though the purity was questionable.

3-MeO-PCP: Tried this one on several occasions, had trouble feeling any effects and led me to redose multiple times. By the end, my head just felt really foggy and had to deal with a massive headache.

Methoxetamine: Also tried on several occasions, only felt somewhat notable effects when taken orally. I have taken potentially dangerous doses nasally ( from re-dosing so much) and still wasn't satisfied.

Ketamine: I tried it twice, both very disappointing experiences.

I wouldn't doubt that the purity and source of the three dissociatives I went over above were bad therefore resulting in unsatisfactory experiences.

Therefore, DXM would have to take first place for euphoria and "trippyness" because it is really the only dissociative I have gotten a powerful experience from. Also I did not include doses above because some of the doses I took were foolish and I don't want to give anyone any bad ideas.
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Re: Most euphoric dissociative and most trippy dissociative

Thank you for developping your opinion, it's the kind of answers I'm searching for, argumentation is better than plain "that shit's awesome" or "that shit sucks"
Thank you for that
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Old 08-11-2013, 07:56
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Re: Most euphoric dissociative and most trippy dissociative

PCP for most trippy, MXE also very euphoric and trippy. ketamine is right up there as well. Very euphoric in lower doses and very trippy and dissociating in higher doses.
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Old 11-11-2013, 02:29
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Re: Most euphoric dissociative and most trippy dissociative

MXE was the most visually trippy (tracers, orbs, auras etc) and psychologically trippy too (time distortion, aphasia)
but ketamine is the most euphoric and visually trippy, lacking the psych trippyness.
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Old 17-11-2013, 04:30
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Re: Most euphoric dissociative and most trippy dissociative

Most euphoric: MXE.
Most trippy: I've never had hallucinations on any, but nitrous is definitely the most trippy. It's probably good that it's so short-lived because if nitrous lasted as long as DXM it would just crack my brain like an egg.
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Re: Most euphoric dissociative and most trippy dissociative

Most euphoric- Probably Dextromethorphan

Most trippy- Well they are all pretty trippy obviously but I would have to say PCP. I've had PCP trips that still blow my mind years later. Definitley not a drug to be taken lightly.
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Re: Most euphoric dissociative and most trippy dissociative

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Which drug between Ketamine, DXM, PCP and Nitrous Oxide do you find the most euphoric and which do you find the most trippy (visual-wise introspection-wise and so on...).

I'd gladly hear your opinions
My buddy told me,

"Even though I love Ketamine, and honestly prefer it over ANY drug, I have had some of the best experiences with PCP. PCP has been the most visual for me, but K has been the most introspective. I've gotten far more intoxicated on PCP though so I suppose I feel that PCP is the trippiest. However I do feel K is safer and if I had to recommend a dissociative to anyone it would be K. Certainly negative experiences can happen with any drug but at the end of the day I suppose there is a lesser of the evils.

But to elaborate, the visuals I've gotten from PCP were absolutely amazing. It was some sort of insight into the molecular structure of everything around me, similar in concept to something I've experienced on LSD, DMT or mushrooms... but very different in the actual visual aspect of it. Also, I've had some pretty interesting visuals on DXM, but it's just too dirty of a drug to be worth using in my opinion."
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Re: Most euphoric dissociative and most trippy dissociative

Iv tried K and MXE (k been my fav) Out of those two though, I would have to say MXE is more trippy! It's easier to get carried away with MXE and end up redosing too much leading to a mind fuck IMO
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Re: Most euphoric dissociative and most trippy dissociative

Ketamine for euphoric, DXM for trippy. Nitrous, while kinda fun, comes in last place in both categories imo. MXE is a strong contender for most trippy, but since lower doses of MXE can be relatively "non-trippy" where as I've never managed not to feel out in space on DXM makes DXM the trippy winner.
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Re: Most euphoric dissociative and most trippy dissociative

my imaginary friend has done ketamine, MXE and nitrous many times. out of these the most trippy is MXE, most euphoric is nitrous, but k is the king; i love the trippiness of k; its like almost like a psychedelic for me, very spiritual and audio-visual hallucinations are often in sync. It also feels the best and lasts a perfect duration. Then again my imaginary friend has no tolerance due to keeping 6month spaces between doses.
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Re: Most euphoric dissociative and most trippy dissociative

Of those, I've only tried K and MXE. Once, after one IM injection session of K then sobering, I took IM MXE and had a hallucination/delusion that I was a glowing hindu deity, slumming in this lowly human form only to find out what it was like to be mortal in this (self-destructing) 21st century civilization. I was fully cognizant of having taking MXE, which was my excuse for coming out of my human role and incarnating as a god for a little while. A mind-blowing trip. My sessions since have been mostly uncoordinated drunk-like states with some visual distortion, no hallucination. It's tempting to chase that one lovely hallucination and try a repeat, but really I don't think it will ever be topped and I might as well stick with weed for the foreseeable future.
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Re: Most euphoric dissociative and most trippy dissociative

I've had experience with Ketamine, Methoxetamine, DXM, and 3-MeO-PCP.

Out of these four, I have had by far the most experience with MXE, which was also my first foray into the realms of the dissociative experience. This means that while I do have had a few years full of extremely impressive MXE-experiences, the fact that it was so impressive, and so easy, has made me grow so used to the substance that whenever I ingest of a pure batch - but only a pure batch, for some curious reason - the effects are mute, and I feel as if I were instinctively pushing back the effects of an invading agent I know so thoroughly. The result is usually a mere headache, with very little dissociation, and very little deviation from the norm in other respects. No visual activity whatsoever. More impure batches (brownish in colour and sandlike in texture) still produce pretty nice effects, though I haven't found that sort of stuff in a while.

But MXE was certainly incredible for at least 300 experiences, and I feel it is probably the most addictive of all the four dissociatives I have sampled. Certainly very euphoric, and very tactile whereas the others are not: you feel it in your body, you feel it in your flesh. This blanket-like warmth is, from what I can still recall, what sets MXE most apart from the others. MXE is the most fruitful of the four to take in small doses of 5 - 10 milligrams, which have often lead me to a somewhat dream-like, appreciative state, in which beauty enters me easily and naturally, and in which I feel alive and vibrant, without ever being still in my thoughts. The others can also be taken in small doses, but MXE is here the king, and therefore yes, easiest of the four to be abused constantly. The long-ish duration is also a definite advantage here, and the stuff is, at the end of the day, very cheap, especially in bulk. Both add to its addictive nature.

But in many ways, what MXE did to me back in the day, Ketamine does for me still. My first experiences with K came after a year of increasingly heavy MXE usage, which had by the point turned close to daily. Before K I had also sampled 3-MeO-PCP, but more on that later. I partly hoped that K would be the zenith, and would prove a satisfactory ending to my problems with dissociatives.

And sure, K is the zenith, and I say so even while still being aware of how long it has been since I've properly experienced MXE. For even though K isn't as easily euphoric or warm as MXE - indeed, the feeling is less of a warm and cuddly blanket than a cool downpour of air on your chest - nor as natural to dose either often or in small doses due to the short duration and, of course, much higher cost, K seems to enter into realms completely of its own. Even though MXE is strong visually and in the feeling of locomotion eyes closed (void surfing), K is significantly stronger. There's also a level of purity to the experience and to contemplation I don't think I have ever had on MXE, which is more prone to manic or way over-sped thinking. Ketamine is indeed more contemplative and even revelatory in many a sense. If I had a constant supply of cheap Ketamine, I fear I'd be broke within the month. And boy, that time once when I did manage to buy it in bulk! Fond memories.

K is definitely more trippy than MXE, more visual than MXE, and more potent introspectively and contemplatively than MXE. In a certain sense, it is more euphoric than MXE too, a greater sense of clarity and sanctity of mind - but could never be used antidepressively in quite the same manner as MXE, and does not share the warmth of its brother.

The two above are in every regard the main contestants. DXM has never done anything satisfying for me, and has produced a myriad of sometimes even quite aggressive side-effects I have no wish of experiencing again. It's an oddball of a substance, whenever I take it I can clearly feel something serotonergic going on in the back of my head, and my neck, and there's histaminergic symptomatology, and the (for me, ever disappointing) dissociative effects, and everything's just warped in an unsettlingly "I don't know WTF is going on" type of fashion. One of the weirdest substances I know, a mutant, a mongrel.

3-MeO-PCP is much closer to K and MXE than DXM is, but has very little edge against either of the two except for its potency. Hasn't got the warmth of MXE nor the clarity of Ketamine, and is visually and locomotively passive. Significantly more prone to manic experiences than even MXE, and higher doses usually start to border on pain instead of anything euphoric, especially within the cranium - the place where I feel the most significant movement on 3-MeO-PCP. On high doses it's almost like laser blades or something passing vertically or horizontally through the brain, zapping and scorching everything in their wake. Probably never actually dangerous, but can certainly feel like that sometimes. However, I would wish to take it again, if only to remember, and I would recommend anyone interested in dissociatives to try it out.

So yeah, tl;dr: Ketamine is the most trippy, and the most euphoric in an "and I was suddenly overtaken by enlightenment"-kind of way, and MXE is the most euphoric when it comes to antidepressive effects and warmth.

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Re: Most euphoric dissociative and most trippy dissociative

I've done a lot of DXM and Nitrous, and I've taken MXE around 10-15 times. DXM is very trippy and mysterious, and at high levels very intense, along with some euphoria.

MXE is very introspective and trippy, and can be very intense once you get up to the 100mg dosage. It feels much more "mechanical" than DXM I feel.

Lastly, Nitrous is straight up euphoria mostly, but if you start doing enough it can be amazingly trippy. I used to do the cartrdiges all the time, load my cracker up with 4, inhale that right away then do 4 more, and I would go into a "blackout" trip, but from what I can remember it was insane.

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