Hash and hoaxes

[Trebor]

More and more people are taking Hashish over weed becuase of it's availability and price. For those who sell it, it's a way to make easy money. Drug dealers have many methods of making it seem as thoug you are getting a quality product.

These include:

Adding disel to the product. This cuases it to swell and adds an aroma that those who are inexperienced would think it a good thing.

Nuking it: Putting hash in a microwave for thirty seconds cuases it to expand. I don't know why but it does. If you look closely at a lump you think you might have been cheated on, you may see cracks. This is definite proof.

For the most part, all you get is soap bar. This consists of;
Beeswax, turpentine, milk powder, ketamine, boot polish, henna, pine resin, aspirin, animal turds, ground coffee, barbiturates, glues and dyes plus carcinogenic solvents such as Toluene and Benzene.*

A way of testing the quality of hash is to put the flame of a lighter next to it and look closley. If it bubbles, it's good. That's the THC. Also. the sweeter the smell, the better, the faster it darkens, the better.

Although the nonly real way to tell you've gotten a good deal is to grow your own. This means you ensure the quality. You enjoy it more and you don't get the bad karma of having to follow a guy down an alley way.

*The list of ingredients of soapbar came from http://www.ukcia.org/activism/soapbar.htm. Everything else is my own words.

[Nature Boy]

It's become more apparent to SWIM that less people are buying hash now if anything because the quality is so bad and good weed is more widely available though still quite expensive. There's very little green around this summer though and unfortunately people appear to be slipping back into the habit of settling for the cheap-ass filthy shit. Now would be a good time to start growing.

[Psych0naut]

Originally Posted by Trebor

For the most part, all you get is soap bar. This consists of;
Beeswax, turpentine, milk powder, ketamine, boot polish, henna, pine resin, aspirin, animal turds, ground coffee, barbiturates, glues and dyes plus carcinogenic solvents such as Toluene and Benzene.*


*The list of ingredients of soapbar came from http://www.ukcia.org/activism/soapbar.htm. Everything else is my own words.

Cutting(or whatever you call it with hash) it with Ketamine and barbiturates would be a big waste, as they're both very expensive in comparison to the other substances, and smoking it wouldn't give any effect.

[Bajeda]

It depends where you are in the world.

Swim smokes hash exclusively in the Middle-East as there isn't much in the way of weed there, and has only had a few bad experiences with clayed pieces or hash with henna mixed in.

Also, swim isn't sure about the bubbling thing. That sounds more like opium than hash. He has encountered many different types of hash over the years and can't recall it bubbling when he lit it up to crumble it up for a joint. He feels that the best way to tell if its actually weed is just to smell it as the difference in smell between actual hash and hash with fake stuff mixed in is discernable, though if it is mixed with heroin or opium (swim has encountered hash mixed with both on a number of occaisions) its more difficult to tell, especially if the hash is stronger. In such a case the easiest way is to tell by the effects unfortunately, by which time its too late to go back on your decision to smoke it.

[Nature Boy]

The bubbling is more of a sure-fire sign of good quality when it comes to hashish made from sifted pollen like Moroccan or Lebanese. Many darker eastern types of hash can be just as potent but may not bubble at all. Generally in Europe though, the bubbling test is a good indicator of how decent one's hash is because most of the supply comes directly from Morocco.

[markdahman]

Originally Posted by Trebor

Although the nonly real way to tell you've gotten a good deal is to grow your own.

Grow your own hash eh? Or grow your own stash to make hash lol!

[Trebor]

Originally Posted by markdahman

Grow your own hash eh? Or grow your own stash to make hash lol!

Imagine a tree of bars. That'd be so sweet.

[prescription]

Hash is pretty much nonexistent in this my country and SWIM tends to get buds off of dealers. From what SWIM has read in this thread it seem that this is a good thing. Does anyone prefer hash to buds? its stronger i suppose..

[Bajeda]

Originally Posted by prescription

Hash is pretty much nonexistent in this my country and SWIM tends to get buds off of dealers. From what SWIM has read in this thread it seem that this is a good thing. Does anyone prefer hash to buds? its stronger i suppose..

Swim would take hash over weed any day.

The high is much more hallucinatory and generally stronger, though its harder to find a more chilled out high. Swim knows many people in the US who are heavy weed smokers but couldn't handle much Eastern hash. On the flip side, people who he knows smoke hash alot don't have much problem with weed.


They are different highs in the end. Swim much prefers the body/hallucinatory high of hash to the less intense high he gets from weed (though some weed strains produce very nice highs he enjoys).

Originally Posted by matti_2003

Swim has never come into soap bar, he doesn't bother smoking hash becasue he rather pay slightly more and be sure of what he is getting. However when he goes to Amsterdam he shall be experiencing with some

Swiy should be sure to go to a reputable place that is known for hash when he goes though. Swim went to Amsterdam and sampled the hash and didn't find it that great. He tried some Afghan and a few Moroccan varieties. The hash made from White Widow and Northern Lights from new techniques sounds interesting.

Still, go to a place known for hash as when swim went he smoked at generic coffeeshops with excellent weed but just ok hash (in comparison to what he gets in the Middle-East)

[podge]

soapbar is only really a problem for ireland and britain......most other countries who are supplied with hashish are getting much higher quality hash. swim smoked soapbar for a long time because he didnt know any better.....one trip to amsterdam showed him how inferior the bullshit hash here really was and then after an intense moment on mushrooms swim decided this habit had to end.swim an his friends now avoid soapbar like the plague that it is.a scourge destroying thousands of dedicated cannabis smokers cause the cheap wankers who mix down proper hash into soapbar like to poison people for money.lets hope someday soon marijuana will be decriminalised and it will put an end this bullshit attempt at cannabis.

[Nature Boy]

First off, people need to stop referring to soapbar as hash. Soapbar isn't hash and shouldn't be named and associated with something so vastly superior. It's much the same as MDMA and ecstasy shouldn't be identified as the one, only in soapbar's case, passing it off as hash is an even bigger lie. Some tests have shown that soapbar contains as little as 0.2% THC. At least a lot of ecstasy tablets (not even near all though) contain some actual MDMA. It's ridiculous that one would fork out the amount they do for soap when a few bob more lands them with a bag of weed that actually is cannabis and not something that closer resembles a peat briquette.

[matti_2003]

Trebor, putting up prices is not allowed.

A lot of the ingredients mentioned are very unlikely to end up in soap bar. Why put ketamine in when its more expensive gram for gram, why would someone wanna play around with animal shit just to increase the weight of it just a bit, and isn't milk powder white?

[podge]

Originally Posted by matti_2003

Trebor, putting up prices is not allowed.

A lot of the ingredients mentioned are very unlikely to end up in soap bar. Why put ketamine in when its more expensive gram for gram, why would someone wanna play around with animal shit just to increase the weight of it just a bit, and isn't milk powder white?

trebor is not lieing.....animal faeces , ketamine and milk powder are to be found in soapbar.....they dont put in much ketamine,just enough to skrew with peoples heads so they believe they are getting some sort of whack of it and they might believe themselves to be " stoned " , why would someone put animal shit in it?.....to bulk it out and make more money. and yes milk powder is white but they use henna and other filthy ingrediants to die its colour in an attempt to make it look like hash. scene as swimatti lives in the uk he must have encountered this disgusting excuse for cannabis.....if swiy encounters it again make sure not to smoke it.....soapbar truely is as bad if not WAY worse than were making it out to be.

[matti_2003]

Swim has never come into soap bar, he doesn't bother smoking hash becasue he rather pay slightly more and be sure of what he is getting. However when he goes to Amsterdam he shall be experiencing with some