Drug info - Psilocybin Mushroom Tolerance/How Often Can SWIM Take Mushrooms?

[BEEKSc1]

swim thinks he knows a friend who might be gettinga few oz ofboomers in, and they plan on tripping quite frequently. how often should they space out their trip so their is absolutely no tolerance build up to provide for the most intense trippossible for that amount of boomers. they are going to trip at a park and hike in the wood, chill, and put head phones on!!!

[Phungushead]

Tolerance is only supposed to last a few days, but if SWIM trips one
day, and then trips the next week (on a similar dose), SWIM will get
very a very weak trip (SWIM only trips once a month, or less). So
SWIM recommends at least every other weekend (the longer you space it,
the better it will be), or increasing dosage since it sounds like you
may not want to wait that long.

[BEEKSc1]

thats what swim was going to do, two wks inbt trips; but then i was thinking, most tryptamines leave your system relatively (cannabis) quickly; leading me to think the celerity of the chemical to detoxify would dictate the tolerance, but prior personal knowledge has lead me to believe otherwise.

[Muirner]

SWIM here has tripped more then once in a week, but he did relize that the first time 1.5grams did it for him, and then the second time he needed an 1/8th (3.5g's) to equal the first trip.. through his personal experience if you trip once a week you should be ok but again everyone's body is different and the way to find out is to test it yourself


Muirner

[Igo4dolo]

Wait only 3-4 days for optimal or you can just do it the next day the tolerance doesnt go up as quickly as it goes down in SWIM opinion

[intrepid]

i'm not sure what exactly caused it, but from the first time i did
shrooms, the quality of the trip had steadily declined till now, and
recently, an 1/8 hardly does anything for me other then increased
peripheral perception, lights being more interesting, and some
strange/unusual thought patterns. i had been doing them quite
frequently at a point, bout an 1/8 a day, but even when i started that
the effects weren't very noticable. recalling that i'd been doing
LSA throughout the weekend prior to the day i started that binge, i
figured that i might have a slight tolerance to tryptamines, but alas,
4 days later, still minimal effects, took me an 1/4 of dried that night
to get to the point where i could say i was "tripping" though
hardly. a week after that, i tried them again with more
pronounced effects, but still nothing like i'd attained from an 1/8
before. i guess that it could be that i grow a pretty fast
tolerance to them and that it takes a while to lose it for me.
i've heard it taking only a matter of a couple days to lose a tolerance
for somepeople, but as i'm sure you all know, different people react
differently to drugs. i'm gonna try again in about a month or so
and see how it effects me then.

[Alfa]

By way of comparison: a lot of psychoactive medicines have effect or build tolerance during 28 days. With Shrooms it is considered the same. Even though there will be a minimal difference between the effects of magic mushrooms taken 27 days or 28 days after the last trip and every body is different, I consider this the minimal time between trips if you want to have full effect of your magic mushrooms. Please note that there is cross tolerance between lsd, mushrooms and some other psychedelics with act on the 2a serotonine receptors.

[BEEKSc1]

i was wandering where the cross tolerance was defined? because i think it'sdirectly corralates to indole psychedelics


Indole psychedelicsundergo electrophilic substitution, mainly at position 3. Substituted indoles are structural elements of (and for some compounds the synthetic precursors for) the tryptophan-derived tryptamine alkaloids like the neurotransmitter serotonin, melatonin, the hallucinogens psilocybin, DMT, 5-MeO-DMT, or the ergolines like LSD.

[enquirewithin]

According to Joanthan Ott (Pharmacotheon) there is supposed to be cross tolerance between LSd, mescaline and psilocybin (as they act on the same receptor sites) but not with DMT.


I recall that 7 to 10 days is the minimum time to lose tolerance, but as Alfa says a month or so would be better.

[BEEKSc1]

does that cross tolerate mescaline or all psychedelicphenylthymines, mainly the 2c-family?

[enquirewithin]

Interesting question! It would seem likely that the phenylthymines would be cross-tolerant.

[BEEKSc1]

basically, if swim was planning a five day road-tryp and wanted to trip every-otherday, what would be the best order to taketryptamines and/or phenylthymines for acheiving maximum affects of the psychoactive. bc i don't know the length of time that passes in thefilm, Fear & Loathing but it seems that his sunshine and his mescaline would have tolerance problems, and Depp looks pretty trippin' the whole time

[ramjet]

To my annoyance, I have discovered that tolerance to shrooms builds
very quickly. It's always been difficult to assess the correct dosage
in a given situation and now, with one "portion" (usually 20gs fresh of
p.cubensis or 10gs of Hawaiians/Copelandia Cyanenscens) not really
allowing a full blown "what the hell is going on" type of trip, it's
getting even harder.



I was just wondering how much stronger you make shrooms by boiling them
and what kind of effect it would have on the dosage you would take?
Also how long should they be boiled for and are there any other
preparation requirements.



How do you "dry" shrooms exactly and what effect does this have?



Sorry if this has been posted before and thanks in advance

[Creeping Death]

I hear that you should wait 2 weeks between trips to have the same tolorance.

[Alfa]

A tip for a very heavy experience: Boiling mushrooms for 2 minutes, then put your cup with shrooms soup in icecold water for 30 secondsand drinking the liquid while it is still very hot, will blast you into other dimensions. Be sure to have a sitter with you as you may pass out instantly. (stove still on and such) Boiling magic mushrooms much longer will degrade the alkaloid content by destroying the active substances in the magic mushrooms. Heating and then cooling mushrooms down again only makes them weaker. Edited by: Alfa

[pjb120]

yeah, I noticed the same. had a fantastic first trip about a year ago - tried the same amount the night after, and virtually nothing happened!! Tolerance develops REALLY quickly, but the good thing is that if you give it about 2 or 3 weeks, your tolerance goes back to previous levels.

[polloloco001]

once i did shrooms eveyr weekend for about 10 weeks. they generally
worked, althoguh it was a pretty weak trip a few times and i noticed
that i started to get a really nasty feeling on the comedown. not
nauseous but you feel like your body is doing eveyrhting it can to piss
you off and expel shit from inside you. lots of cramping and feeling
tense. also sweating and feeling really dirty and a shitty bloated
gaseous feeling. after this happened on the comedown a few times in a
row i cut back and did them again about a month later. shit went fine
and i had fun.

[Ellis D.]

Hi people,last thursdaynight Iate 1/8 minus 2 shroomsand now tonight I'd like to trip again with a friend, we have just over an 1/8 between us so would about half an 1/8 be enoughto get me trippingwith thetollerence from thursday?

[polloloco001]

id wait another week if youve only got a 1/2 1/8. i used to do shrooms
every weekend and when i would wait less than 2 weeks a 1/2 1/8 wouldnt
do too much. 1/2 an 1/8 is not very much shrooms anyway (at least if
they are cubensis, which are pretty much the only ones that drug
dealers sell around my area) and IMO its much more worthwhile to spend
a little more, get a whole 1/8 and have a stronger trip.

[Chaote]

Back in the day i used to eat about 3g every friday for only a month but still, i never noticed any tolerance, I would be more worried about the low amount of mush, THIS IS PERSONAL OPINION I DONT KNWO WHAT IT TAKES TO GET YOU TRIPPING SO DO NOT US ETHIS FOR YOU OWN SPECIFICS, I have tripped decently maybe a little less off 1/16 but i hadnt done them for 6months+ im sure you would feel something but it wouldnt be to much tripping maybe just that high feeling. but your body chem is diff from everyone else so its hard to say

[ramjet]

In my experience with fresh shroomstolerance builds extremely quickly and takes 2 weeks to a month (depending on frequency of use) to go back to its original level. I found the same dosage that had me tripping ballsweek onewas about half as effective the second week. You can never really tell, and it's always better to be safe with psychoactives, but I would definitely find some more shrooms if you could or if you can't wait another week.

[gfnofxc22]

I hear its bad to do less than a month apart from the last time you did it because its not healthy and less effetive. Is this true?

[Nature Boy]

This is not true. Magic mushrooms can be done on a monthly basis without any significant physical or mental problems as long as they're done in moderation. It is true that mushrooms will not be as potent should you do them only a day or two apart but this certainly doesn't apply to doing shrooms once a month. Don't fear shrooms. Compared to some other drugs out there, they're the safest and most rewarding drug you can choose to do as long as you take care.

[gfnofxc22]

So what is the quickest your body can recover without losing potency?

[bcStoner420]

recover, losing potency? what are you on about man? If your talking about losing tolerance well it really shouldnt be a huge deal, if SWIM does em 1 week apart ther just as strong the next time he does em.