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Old 26-07-2006, 22:20
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LD50 of MDMA

swim would like to know what the ld50 is for xtc

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Old 26-07-2006, 23:51
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The LD50 of MDMA ranges from about 100-300 mg/kg in assorted rodents.[42] The single-dose LD50 in humans can only be guessed at, but may be on the order of 10-20 mg/kg (oral.)
from http://thedea.org/technicalFAQ.html

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LD50 (mice) 97 mg/kg i.p.
LD50 (rats) 49 mg/kg i.p.
LD50 (guinea pigs) 98 mg/kg i.p.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma...hemistry.shtml

So it depends which LD50 SWIY is referring to. If SWIY means the LD50 for humans, the answer is "unknown" as such an experiment would be pretty unethical . The first (not very scientific I might add) website suggests it should be in the order of 10-20 mg/kg in adults.

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Old 27-07-2006, 09:08
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The first (not very scientific I might add) website suggests it should be in the order of 10-20 mg/kg in adults.
Just because I work in stones, and dont know the average weight of a human, for an average human, what dose are we talking about if we were to take the midpoint of 15mg/kg?
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The average adult men weighs 80 kg, 80x15mg=1200mg.
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Err, yes. For SWiYour serotonin (increased risk of serotonin syndrome), cardio-pulmonary system (heart & lungs), your liver, your kidneys, all in all not the best thing a monkey could do to their system.

As for smacky pills, the jury is still out on whether such a thing exists. For the prosecution - heroin is just too damn expensive to bother cutting pills with, & there are many other things that could give similar (to someone inexperienced) effects; a decent dose of mdma can be a bit mongy/spacey at times, especially if it isn't being 'worked'. For the prosecution - although smack itself is expensive, other opiates aren't, & there are some unscrupulous/misguided dicks out there who will experiment with different combinations in their pills but still pass it off as 'Ecstacy'; A Certain Mouse has watched a club full of people unable to dance & scratching like flea-bitten dogs from the same batch of pills on more than one occasion, with one ex-smackhead ready to kill whoever made them because of it (this was some time ago, & needless to say a lot of creatures got a refund that night!).

Buy pills, & that is what you get - a pill, with random ingredients, sometimes nice, sometimes not, sometimes mdma, often not. Without either a testing kit or a source that can be trusted to be honest about their product it's a total lottery.

MAPS: MDMA and Renal Function

eMedicine - Toxicity, MDMA : Article by David Yew, MD

NIDA - Publications - NIDA Notes - Vol. 18, No. 6 - Research Findings



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