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Old 24-07-2006, 02:06
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Cocaine and lortabs (hydrocodone): Safe Combo?

SWIM was wondering if it would be dangerous to snort a few lines of coke and then take 3 or 4 10mg lortabs a few hours later. SWIM has heard you shouldn't mix uppers and downers but will the few hours between make it ok?

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Old 24-07-2006, 02:12
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Together would be a speed-ball! Preety dangerous on the heart..
Hydro's can be used for the come down with good results tho.

I suggest you UseTheF******SearchEngine im almost sure this has been talked about a few times!
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Old 24-07-2006, 02:13
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I searched for cocaine and hydrocodone but nothing came up. Thanks for the reply though.
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Old 24-07-2006, 04:46
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SWIM did this on the 4th of July. He did a few lines of coke and popped some lortab when he was coming down. It takes away the anxiety you get from the comedown, and you gradually go from up, to down.

Benzos work great for the comedown but SWIM likes to sleep after taking benzos. Opiates keep SWIM happy and energized so if you dont want to end the night early, opiates might be better for the comedown.

Adding an additional substance to the mix almost always increased the chances of complications, but this "combo" is probably at the lower end of the danger scale. SWIMs friends enjoy doing lines while under the influence of various pharmecudical opiates (hydrocodone, hydromorphone, oxycodone....).
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Old 27-07-2006, 06:49
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Mattinbr swim is surprised swiy can last a few hours after coke lines before reaching for a downer like loritab. Mind you the coming down after a few lines of coke is minimal hassle swim finds.

Swim tends to binge on coke every couple of weeks. Swim has never tried this opiate-loritab, sounds good! and swim usually uses a benzo for the comedown but coke is so short acting on swim once swim decides its time to get off the rollercoaster swim can barely last half an hour when swim is reaching for a benzo for the edginess. Hasnt noticeably damaged swim yet but swim wonders if this is too close. swim would think swiy was fine waiting a few hours man swim wishes he could do that??!
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Old 05-08-2006, 04:03
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SWIM has used Lortab to ease the comedown an hour or so after a full night's partying- it definitely helps to mellow out & wind her down. SWIM did notice that once she does sleep for a while (5-7 hours?) the lortab hits her a helluva lot like a brick and she has trouble waking up the next morning...then again she thinks that these were 500 mg tabs.
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Old 05-08-2006, 06:15
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then again she thinks that these were 500 mg tabs.
not to sound like a pill martinet, but 500 mg of hydrocodone (the active opiate in lortabs) would be deadly! the larger number in vicodin/lortab dosages refers to the amount of acetaminophen (tylenol) in the pill, and the smaller number (5, 7.5, or 10) refers to the mg of hydrocodone in there. but to stay on topic, swim has used this to come down from coke before. it works pretty well an keeps swim happy after busting a few lines, but he waits an hour or two after the last line so as to not be too harsh on the ol' ticker. its important not to overdo either one of the substances in question even if taking them some time apart!

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Old 05-08-2006, 23:17
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The act of mixing hydrocodone and cocaine is similar to the "speedball". A "speedball", of course, is heroine taken with cocaine. While the latter combination proves to be more dangerous, hydrocodone and cocaine poses some risk. SWIM has never taken hydrocodone and cocaine together, but he has taken methadone with cocaine; 30 milligrams of methadone and 2 grams of cocaine over a period of 12 hours. It truly was an amazing feeling. The methadone added a sense of contentment to the restlessness sometimes experienced with cocaine. SWIM would do a line and then be completely content to lie down and enjoy the feeling. SWIM can't lay down on cocaine alone, that's for sure. SWIM also has taken hydrocodone with amphetamine several times, and the feeling is similar to the methadone/hydrocodone combination. SWIM wouldn't outright discourage trying your proposed combination, but rather he would offer a word of caution. If you can, start out with a low dose of hydrocodone (10 milligrams, for example) and test the waters. Also, if you have high blood pressure I would certainly exercise extreme caution.
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Old 12-08-2006, 06:09
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not to sound like a pill martinet, but 500 mg of hydrocodone (the active opiate in lortabs) would be deadly!
lol you pill martinet you!

actually the breakdown on the Lortab 2.5/500mg tablet is more like this:
Hydrocodone Bitartrate= 2.5 mg and Acetaminophen=500 mg. (with some Lortab having a higher (around 5-10mg) hydrocodone breakdown.)

So not so "deadly" unless you have acetaminophen sensitivity.

P.S. yes SWIM had to look up the definition of the word "martinet"

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Old 12-08-2006, 06:23
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martinet is a great word!! =]

true, it wouldnt be deadly with that little hydrocodone in there, for some reason i thought 500 mg hydrocodone, but obviously no one would make a pill like that! thanks for clarifying that!
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Old 14-08-2006, 21:34
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Ironically SWIM some how adapted to these drugs differently. SWIM started using opioids first, and began using coke to deal with the drowsiness of that come down. So if SWIM blew a 40 mg pill of oxycotin at 10 pm, SWIM wouldn't start doing coke until 3am, in which case, SWIM wouldn't get to bed until between 6 and 8am. SWIM doesnt know how this happened, because all of SWIMs associates use the way described in this thread. I think its because when SWIMs virgin eyes were presented with a buffet of drugs, SWIM assumed prescription pain meds wouldn't be too dangerous, even though they surely were expensive. So SWIM started there first. Were as Im guessing most people start with coke and move on from there.
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Old 27-08-2006, 08:34
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You guys want a decent comedown that's easier to get prescribed than benzos or opiates, try Lyrica (pregabalin) or Neurontin (Gabapentin). Works surprisingly well according to SWIM. Dr's will prescribe this stuff like candy for anxiety or as a "mood stabilizer" or for neuroleptic pain, partial complex seizures, etc.

Or just use Kratom, works *excellent*.
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Old 27-08-2006, 08:52
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gabapentin works well for social anxiety or slight depression according to swim. didnt know it worked well as landing gear for coke too...good to know cuz docs practically give it away, even for things it hasnt been proven effective for!

but kratom sounds like a more intuitive and effective choice. good advice nicaine!!

as always remember to be careful with what you use to help come down from coke. swim knows people who have ended up with hefty addictions...not to cocaine...but to opiates or benzos from using them to come down off coke!
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Gabapentin is very effective in helping swim comedown off cola. The main reason being swim always feels physically shitty while coming down and the gabapentin works well to soothe swim's nerves, taking away much of the body load, inlcuding the painful muscle (especially neck, shoulder, and jaw) stiffening swim experiences. It also allows for sleep, still, ambien makes swim feel the best afterward, like being wrapped in a warm blanket, even better than benzos.

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Old 29-08-2006, 04:02
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but kratom sounds like a more intuitive and effective choice. good advice nicaine!!
Before SWIM began his heavy use of kratom last summer (he's not using it anymore, quit recently) he found it by far the best cola comedown that's easily available and reasonably cheap. Produces an incredible warm glow and inner peace/euphoria that's so welcome after the violence of a cola run. Basically eliminates the unpleasant comedown phase completely. Probably best to wait 30-45min after last cola use before taking the k., as k. has some stimulant properties itself.

Only one problem with it tho: SWIM cannot sleep on kratom. Period. That means at least another six hours after the cola comedown before sleeping. Which is cool really, who wants to sleep when they feel so damn good?

Edit -- another potential issue. Some people are subject to temporary but terrible depression during the comedown phase (SWIM has very occasionally). Kratom will eliminate that too, but when the kratom wears of 6 hours later the depression will return. Be forewarned.

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Gabapentin is very effective in helping swim comedown off cola. The main reason being swim always feels physically shitty while coming down and the gabapentin works well to soothe swim's nerves, taking away much of the body load, inlcuding the painful muscle (especially neck, shoulder, and jaw) stiffening swim experiences. It also allows for sleep, still, ambien makes swim feel the best afterward, like being wrapped in a warm blanket, even better than benzos.
Yup. Lyrica (pregabalin) will work just as well. Not as pleasant as kratom, but gets the job done. Some people like benzos, but they do almost nothing for SWIM in regards to the comedown... dunno why.

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Swim and Swim's bro are doin both coke and oxycodone (5 mg) right now, and feelin quite fine! Bro is sweatin like crazy and swim is feelin like a fly!! Yes, like a fly. Swim is quickly looking bout room, feels like a fly... it's pretty cool!! )
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Re: Cocaine and lortabs (hydrocodone): Safe Combo?

I was wondering, if Swim was to have high blood pressure and high stress levels, how should he proceed as far as being as safe as possible. I have done tons of research for swim, but still, he persist in continuing these bad habits. Thank you for any advice you can give my pal swim.
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Re: Cocaine and lortabs (hydrocodone): Safe Combo?

Seen lots of mention of kratom, suprised nobody has brought up Mulungu [a partial benzo/GABA agonist] used in place of harsh synthetics by some, (Erythrina verna/mulungu), a decent extract is quite effective. Best if no prior benzo/gabaergic use but apparently effective even if so (unless one was taking high-doses for extended period of time); although, some have reportedly used it to come off long-term benzo's or other gabaergics in a wean/taper application - as well as a comedown tonic in general for stims. It is loaded with a healthy assortment of alkaloids, flavanoids and triterpenes which assist various antioxidant processes, hepatic support as well as possibly strengthening the heart.

@kilogg: Erythrina verna/mulungu is somewhat of a hypotensive agent and will assist in lowering bloodpressure and as such would probably be a better comdown cure for coke then opiates if you have cardiovascular concerns (i.e. see: strenthening of the heart). If that is the case though, why the cocaine? It may assist your bloodpressure when used in a weekly schedule, this is not medical advice, simply up for discussion. You;d be surprised how well [some] doctors respond to the discussion of herbal medicine when it is approached properly in the appointment (doesnt always go well though); in other words, don't take my word for it, do some research and talk with a trusted professional if you have serious concerns about your blood-pressure.

Salvia miltiorrhiza as well as... hmm, I have it here somehere, a third plant with partial benzo and/or GABA receptor binding. I will edit the post and add it later when I can find the notes.

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