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Old 07-04-2013, 05:21
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Can smoking synthetic marijuana cause vomiting?

My friend is a constant user of synthetic marijuana/spice. Brands like Mad Monkey, Sexy Monkey, The dreaded, and Scooby Snacks are some of the brands he smokes. He smokes it everyday and all day and refuses to listen to anyone about being addicted. Recently he has had some medical issues like randomly getting nauseous and vomiting and he gets the shakes and has hot and cold flashes. He went to a doctor and they diagnosed him with cyclic vomiting syndrome (cvs). I asked him if he told the doctor that he smokes spice and he said yes and the doctor said it had nothing to do with it. But I seriously doubt that he told the doctor he smokes spice because he said that they have no idea whats causing the vomiting and I have a feeling that they would consider that as the cause. Can anyone tell me if spice can cause this?

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Old 07-04-2013, 08:18
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Re: Can smoking synthetic marijuana cause vomiting

Cannabis is an anti-emetic, so it wouldn't be a total revelation if overuse of synthetic cannabinoids dysregulates endogenous cannabinoid signaling to such an extent that you get a reverse effect and nausea. Cannabinoids are also known to affect body temperature. Those symptoms could quite plausibly be related to his drug use, especially if he's an otherwise healthy young male and the symptoms have persisted for more than a week or two. So I agree that it seems doubtful that he would have told the doctor about his drug use, or that if he had the doctor would've been so dismissive of the drug use as a factor.. if anything doctors tend to assume the worst when it comes to recreational drugs.

Nausea, vomiting and thermoregulation problems all sound rather like typical withdrawal. Perhaps the symptoms set in when he hasn't taken any cannabinoids for a while? That would be a fairly conclusive sign that it's related to the cannabinoid use.
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Old 07-04-2013, 08:27
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Re: Can smoking synthetic marijuana cause vomiting

From personal experience -- yes, absolutely. I was addicted to synthetic blends for nearly a year, and during that time, I developed some pretty terrible gastrointestinal issues. Slow emptying of the stomach (gastroparesis), cyclic vomiting syndrome, and Crohn's was thrown around. I woke up and vomited in the mornings, every morning. I was unable to eat without getting nauseous, and when I did eat dinner at night, I would throw up undigested food in the mornings.

I also had nearly-constant cold-like symptoms for months at a time during the peak of my addiction, and doctor's visits revealed high white blood cell counts, and always high blood pressure. Several rounds of antibiotics did nothing.

All of these problems ceased when I stopped using synthetic blends. I can only attribute them to the use of the blends, as I don't have a history of problems like these, and no longer experience them after cessation of use.

Your friend needs help. I was lost in a $400/week habit that alienated me froom my wife and family. I pulled through okay, but it was the roughest time in my life. I made some very bad decisions, and under the influence of the blends you do not notice your own behavior.
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Old 07-04-2013, 15:32
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Re: Can smoking synthetic marijuana cause vomiting

yep, once my dog overdosed after 2 joints and nearly ended up throwing. wasnt cool. but it did make him highhh
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Re: Can smoking synthetic marijuana cause vomiting

I'm a 30ish female, I tried synthetic cannabis once before in New Zealand (Spice) but wasn't sure what all the fuss was about, that stuff was pretty weak. I went to Sydney last month for work and my husband found some "Vortex Inferno" and bought it back to the hotel. One puff on that and I felt like I was glued to my chair. After a while you get used to it though and it becomes more like just a regular high. When I got back to Cairns I found another shop that sells a brand called "Heptic" which I started smoking daily - every half hour to an hour (similar to my pot smoking habit). After a couple of weeks I developed a very chesty cough, sometimes coughing up large amounts of mucous. After a month I noticed in the mornings after coughing that I was feeling nauseous, to the point of vomiting, now it's at a point where I wake up feeling sick even before the coughing begins. I thought it might be morning sickness, but have ruled that out.

Anyway, long story short I'm sick of the coughing and vomiting so I smoked it all up last night and am quitting cold turkey today.
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Old 20-05-2013, 06:18
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Re: Can smoking synthetic marijuana cause vomiting

I have vomited heavily on synthetic cannabinoids when too much was taken. Especially AM-2201! I am not talking about simply spitting up a little this was full force projectile vomiting. Happened to me at least five times. Even though it is a nasty side effect of an overdose I am so glad I didn't ever get any totally bad "trips."

At one time my tolerance was so high I was vaping over a gram a day of straight AM-2201 and NOT a blend. Although withdraws were a bitch I never vomited from them.

So as others have said the answer to your question is yes.

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Old 22-05-2013, 20:10
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Re: Can smoking synthetic marijuana cause vomiting

I recieved AB-PINACA today and tried it for the first time. I eyeballed a little powder and rolled a cig with it. 4 hits in and I could tell I would vomit. I ended up spitting up a small amount of mucus with a overly acidic feeling like vomiting orange juice. Obviously I should have measured it out so I figured maybe it was too much even though I just had a small buzz. Long story short, after trial and error Ive come to the conclusion that even if I put barely enough to even get buzzed I will feel I need to vomit after 2 or 3 hits. Its now in the waste bin.

Ive vomited before on noids but never EVERY SINGLE TIME. This stuff is more effective as an ipecac substitute then something to get high on. I get dizzy thinking about how high I would need to be to make it worth it. I would basically have to transcend time and space and have an orgasm while eating bacon.

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Old 22-05-2013, 20:32
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Re: Can smoking synthetic marijuana cause vomiting

I asked him if he told the doctor that he smokes spice and he said yes and the doctor said it had nothing to do with it.
R u sure your doc knew what he was talking about? you are giving product names; do you what exact chemical was in them? Was it the same chemical over the period of time/? there are so many noids and docs don't normally catch up on the later.

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Old 23-05-2013, 19:12
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Re: Can smoking synthetic marijuana cause vomiting?

I overly agree with dunwiddit i share a similar experience. Quit the blend and ur problems will stop. The chem by itself is better than all that junk in the blend. But its best to stop alltogether
Easier said than done.
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Old 30-05-2013, 01:27
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Re: Can smoking synthetic marijuana cause vomiting?

I have had random vomiting from AKB and PB22, mainly at the beginning of my use with the RC. After some tolerance builds up it seemed to stop.
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Old 04-06-2013, 19:36
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Re: Can smoking synthetic marijuana cause vomiting?

Plain and simple - yes.
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Old 04-06-2013, 22:26
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Re: Can smoking synthetic marijuana cause vomiting?

I have thrown up plenty of times after smoking synthetic cannabinoids. Most of the time I can attribute it to a few different things, like over eating for example. Some blends really kick the munchies into over drive and I will eat way more then I normally would in any given setting other then being stoned. I end up so full that the next cough I literally blow the top off and waste all that money on the floor.

I have noticed a that, at least, 75% of the blends do not mix very well with alcohol. The chance of getting nauseous and puking all over are greatly increased with poly drug use, even cigarettes after smoking just don't mix very well. These feelings of needing to lay down or having to puke go away in a short period of time. I have not seen anybody who's night was ruined because they started feeling like shit all of a sudden after smoking a synthetic blend. Just sit that person down and help them relax, be prepared with a trash can around. Sometimes projectile vomiting may occur without much warning in the case of excessive ingestion.
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Re: Can smoking synthetic marijuana cause vomiting?

a friend once flopped and seized from a huge hit of am-2201 he started puking i called EMS and they diagnosed him with cyclin vomiting syndrome cannabinoid withdrawl can deff cause severe vomiting and hot cold flashes with the poops deff worse detox ever
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a friend once flopped and seized from a huge hit of am-2201 he started puking i called EMS and they diagnosed him with cyclin vomiting syndrome cannabinoid withdrawl can deff cause severe vomiting and hot cold flashes with the poops deff worse detox ever
So your friend smoked, had a seizure accompanied by vomitting and the diagnosis is cannabinoid withdrawl? By definition of withdrawl this seams to be a completely fabricated diagnosis due to the fact that your friend was under the influence at the time of this mishap. Overdose sounds more in order.

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Old 25-06-2013, 18:50
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.R u sure your doc knew what he was talking about? you are giving product names; do you what exact chemical was in them? Was it the same chemical over the period of time/? there are so many noids and docs don't normally catch up on the later.
Do you really think a general practitioner will know anything about specific cannabinoids or even synthetic cannabinoids in general? And do you really think blend smokers have reliable knowledge about what's in their blends?

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Re: Can smoking synthetic marijuana cause vomiting?

SWH-018 caused instant intense vomiting twice in a row. Stay clear of this compound.
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Re: Can smoking synthetic marijuana cause vomiting?

2201 would at times make me projectile vomit. Then I would smoke more and more and not even care. Had a bag and everything and go back to what I was doing (porn).

With those blends you don't know what else in in those and every one I've tried seem like they hadf something more than a cannabinoid.
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2201 would at times make me projectile vomit. Then I would smoke more and more and not even care. Had a bag and everything and go back to what I was doing (porn).

With those blends you don't know what else in in those and every one I've tried seem like they hadf something more than a cannabinoid.
The more I read about some of the newer synthetic stimulants and opiates, I start to wonder what exactly was in some of the blends I encountered. They did not give nearly the same effect as the pure chems gave. Some had me nodding off, and some (including the one I smoked regularly) were very speedy. Lots of paranoia, awake 24-72 hours at a time between crashes, auditory hallucinations.

I'm sure they also had synthetic cannabinoids in them, but I wonder what else was being added to try and differentiate their products from the rest.

The problem is, most of us will never know, unless there's handy access to a GC/MS machine and someone to operate it.
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From personal experience -- yes, absolutely. I was addicted to synthetic blends for nearly a year, and during that time, I developed some pretty terrible gastrointestinal issues. Slow emptying of the stomach (gastroparesis), cyclic vomiting syndrome, and Crohn's was thrown around. I woke up and vomited in the mornings, every morning. I was unable to eat without getting nauseous, and when I did eat dinner at night, I would throw up undigested food in the mornings.

I also had nearly-constant cold-like symptoms for months at a time during the peak of my addiction, and doctor's visits revealed high white blood cell counts, and always high blood pressure. Several rounds of antibiotics did nothing.

All of these problems ceased when I stopped using synthetic blends. I can only attribute them to the use of the blends, as I don't have a history of problems like these, and no longer experience them after cessation of use.

Your friend needs help. I was lost in a $400/week habit that alienated me froom my wife and family. I pulled through okay, but it was the roughest time in my life. I made some very bad decisions, and under the influence of the blends you do not notice your own behavior.
Dunwiddit,

What made you stop? And how did you get help? My fiancé has been addicted to spice for over 2 years now. We have an 11 month old and I am on the verge of leaving him. He smokes spice all day and night. He has completely alienated himself from my son and I as well as friends and family. He spends his nights smoking in the shower. I have tried numerous ways of asking him to stop but he refuses. We no longer can communicate because he rarely listens to a word I say. It's as though I'm talking to a wall because he just stares at me and seems as though he is not really there. Just last night he spent 7 hours vomiting in the shower. I didn't sleep because I kept checking on him every 15minutes to make sure he was still breathing (he has had this happen a lot and complains that he can't breathe and have called ambulance before). I just don't know what else to do. What finally made you stop? Any advice is GREATLY appreciated. I am concerned for his health and I just want the person I fell in love with 5 years ago back.
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What made you stop? And how did you get help? My fiancé has been addicted to spice for over 2 years now. We have an 11 month old and I am on the verge of leaving him. He smokes spice all day and night. He has completely alienated himself from my son and I as well as friends and family. He spends his nights smoking in the shower. I have tried numerous ways of asking him to stop but he refuses. We no longer can communicate because he rarely listens to a word I say. It's as though I'm talking to a wall because he just stares at me and seems as though he is not really there. Just last night he spent 7 hours vomiting in the shower. I didn't sleep because I kept checking on him every 15minutes to make sure he was still breathing (he has had this happen a lot and complains that he can't breathe and have called ambulance before). I just don't know what else to do. What finally made you stop? Any advice is GREATLY appreciated. I am concerned for his health and I just want the person I fell in love with 5 years ago back.
First of all you should remember that your fiancé is currently not himself. If he can get clear of these synthetics for a couple of weeks then he'll start to clear up. You need to tell him that he's destroying himself and that he needs to start weaning off. He is probably going to need low doses for about 3-5 days to keep himself from going insane on withdrawals. After that he needs to try staying away from it as long as possible. It might be a good idea to call an addiction specialist or therapist. I wish you the best of luck. He is in serious danger.
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Re: Can smoking synthetic marijuana cause vomiting?

I am nearly a week into my cessation. I find myself downing a lot of smokes but I feel a million times better. I realized how winded I was on that stuff. I do a lot of walking and downing benedryls to sleep. I made a non-self incrimination post about it but screw it, I'm done with it and threw it all away.

I am going to training for 5 and a half weeks and knew I had to get off plus it was simply just time. The health effects are horrible from that stuff and now chems are coming out in rapid pace. All the towns around me shut down the head shops because of the blends and the law is cracking down so might as well smoke the real stuff. But I am going to enjoy life without drugs.

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What made you stop? And how did you get help? My fiancé has been addicted to spice for over 2 years now. We have an 11 month old and I am on the verge of leaving him. He smokes spice all day and night. He has completely alienated himself from my son and I as well as friends and family. He spends his nights smoking in the shower. I have tried numerous ways of asking him to stop but he refuses. We no longer can communicate because he rarely listens to a word I say. It's as though I'm talking to a wall because he just stares at me and seems as though he is not really there. Just last night he spent 7 hours vomiting in the shower. I didn't sleep because I kept checking on him every 15minutes to make sure he was still breathing (he has had this happen a lot and complains that he can't breathe and have called ambulance before). I just don't know what else to do. What finally made you stop? Any advice is GREATLY appreciated. I am concerned for his health and I just want the person I fell in love with 5 years ago back.
I read this to my wife, and she said you could have been describing me to a T. She talks about how I was almost zombie-like during the worst of it.

Your fiance is lost in his addiction right now, and probably isn't entirely aware of his behavior. It's only after getting clean that I realized how much my constant fiend/fix/withdraw cycle was affecting my family and friends. My wife stayed with me, thankfully, and I couldn't have done it if she hadn't. I am not encouraging you one way or the other on leaving, however, because you have something in the mix that we didn't -- a child.

I finally turned around when the headshop was told by law enforcement to stop selling it. It wasn't the lack of availability that opened my eyes, I could have gotten it online. It was my own reaction to my source being cut off -- I went into complete panic mode. I took a day off work to phone every headshop within a 5 hour drive, and found nothing. I went berserk, and it felt like a cold, sobering slap in the face. I wasn't a successful professional with a family playing weekend warrior anymore, I was an addict.

The withdrawals were terrible, and I say that with the experience of someone who has been through withdrawals from opiates and benzos. I would gladly withdraw from either of those before going through withdrawal from these blends again. I was uncomfortable in my own skin, couldn't sleep, couldn't eat, I was nervous and twitchy and delusional. I was slurring my words at work (much LIKE a benzo withdrawal), sweating profusely, coughing up blood and black. I had auditory hallucinations for a few nights, probably from lack of sleep. But the worst was the feeling of hopelessness -- like I had lost the only thing that gave light to my life. My amazing wife, great family, friends, and great career held no weight at all in my happiness at the time. It was horrible.

After about a week, the worst of it passed, but it was still all I could think about. It took several months before the mental aspect of it subsided. I'm nearly a year out now, and I still think about it.

I know some people sort of brush off the idea of synthetic cannabinoids being this addicting, and the pure chemicals do not seem to have quite the same disastrous effect. That's why I would be curious to find if some of these blends don't contain other RC analogs in them -- maybe analogs of opiates, stims, or benzos.

I would caution you to check your finances if your fiance is as bad as I was. I was spending $1000+ per month on commercial blends. Stupid, but the pure chems didn't do it for me (which is another reason I worry about what else was added), and I was able to justify spending the cash every. single. time. I saw plenty of people swiping credit cards with every transaction, I hate to think how many people maxed out their credit cards on this stuff.

As for his recovery, the decision is going to have to come from him. He probably gets angry if you confront him about it, but you need to try and catch one of those moments of clarity and somehow show him what he has become, and what he stands to lose because of it. Not only in terms of money, but that he might very well lose his family, or his life, if he doesn't get clean. It will either hit home, or it won't. There are no magical buttons or keywords, unfortunately.

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Re: Can smoking synthetic marijuana cause vomiting?

I have felt nauseous from smoking synthetic cannabinoid blends, however a few things must be noted. I use natural cannabis most commonly to treat nausea I experience daily, and I have very little experience with the synthetic products. I can not be sure if the nausea was due to the synthetic cannabinoid compound, or if the herbs were what made me feel ill. However the intense effects caused a reaction similar to motion sickness, and I felt if I could manage to get up and throw up that I might feel better but it never became that serious. The nausea dissipated quickly, as did most of the effects, however I could certainly expect that vomiting would be possible with higher doses. I believe I consumed roughly 7 mg each of EAM-2201 and 5F-UR-144, and was my first time achieving full effects after previous disappointments.

I also remember a video on YouTube of a young man smoking a bowl of 'Spice'. He promptly vomited on the floor, and began screaming in a hellishly terrified way, slamming his hands on the floor and struggling to keep himself seated up.
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Re: Can smoking synthetic marijuana cause vomiting?

My cat ODed on Jwh-250 once after smoking a pile of the powder the size of a half-dollar on foil. She completely blacked out and came back to awareness with her fiance holding a bag out in which she had been and continued to projectile vomit into and the volume of vomit was enormous. She never smoked that much again to say the least.
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Re: Can smoking synthetic marijuana cause vomiting?

it is quite a normal thing to occur. weed and black mamba made my pet lion spill his guts after 3 draws and an hour of paranoia.

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