Disappointed with Oxycontin (OC)

[skeeber]

SWIM has been on opiates for several years now for multiple back problems. SWIM has snorted Percosets for the last year or so. Using moderation SWIM has kept SWIM's tolerance fairly low. SWIM can still get a good buzz off snorting one 10/325 pill. Recently SWIM's pain management specialist perscribed Oxycontin 20mg in addition to the percs. SWIM made sure to get name brand because SWIM read that some generic are abuse-proof. SWIM has snorted a few and SWIM is really disappointed in the results. A 10/325 is much better for SWIM than an OC 20. SWIM has tried taking Tylenol a half hour or so before snorting with no better results. SWIM has been snorting for over a year, so SWIM knows how to do it. SWIM crushes it up to a very fine powder. Why would SWIM have better luck with percs? Is name brand Oxycontin now abuse-proof?

[Forthesevenlakes]

did swiy remove the time release coating first? its easy to do, just wet them down and rub the waxy coating off on a towel or shirt. then crush. this should get make it available for instant release, and swim has never had any problems with brand name oxys. swim has been using them up until about two weeks ago, so he doesnt think any changes were made to the time release.

actually swim cant really think of any reason that the oxys dont work better than percs for you. its the same active drug in them (oxycodone) and oxycontin doesnt have tylenol. maybe its a psychological thing, the percs make for more to snort to swiy feels higher? swim cant figure that one out.

[skeeber]

SWIM has been able to get more out of SWIM's OCs lately. The effect is just a little smoother than percs and longer lasting. SWIM did remove the coating first. The coating does not crush well, so that is why SWIM removes it. SWIM has heard different stories about the time-release mechanism and doesn't think the coating has anything to do with the time-release. SWIM appreciates your reply.

[Desertfox]

why would you ever snort a pill with 325mg of tylenol in it. it is just a waste.

[skeeber]

Thanks for you insight, but snorting percs is definitely not a waste. Much more of the drug gets in you bloodstream that way. Now, snorting 5/500s on a long-term basis would not be smart.

[Fantasian]

Originally Posted by skeeber

Thanks for you insight, but snorting percs is definitely not a waste. Much more of the drug gets in you bloodstream that way. Now, snorting 5/500s on a long-term basis would not be smart.

I always thought the drug was better absorbed orally. I may be wrong though.

[prescription]

Isnt oral the worst route of adimistration with opiates due to the liver metabolizing it in the first pass (i think), in that case i think snorting may be more effective. I also may be wrong though

[Forthesevenlakes]

Originally Posted by prescription

Isnt oral the worst route of adimistration with opiates due to the live metabolizing it in the first pass (i think), in that case i think snorting may be more effective. I also may be wrong though

depends on the opiate. they all have different bioavailabilities through different routes. OC is pretty available when eaten, and also while snorted so swiy could go either way. but morphine for example is not very bioavailable through the stomach so it would be more effective snorted.

[Fantasian]

Originally Posted by forthesevenlakes

depends on the opiate. they all have different bioavailabilities through different routes. OC is pretty available when eaten, and also while snorted so swiy could go either way. but morphine for example is not very bioavailable through the stomach so it would be more effective snorted.

as i thought, OC is has better bioavailablity orally. I know morphine and Diamorphine is very ineffective via this route though.

[Paperchase417]

i find anything less than 40 mils of OC are useless, except when used in conjuntion with booze or coke in which case, I find the effects of 20 mils are acceptable. SWIM "abuses" opioids in moderation as well. SWIM has never touched H or opium, just pills. Started with percs and vicodin then OC. These days SWIM will use one or two OC 40s in a weekend. That serves to get SWIM nice and doped up, real itchy and after a few hours, ready for a nap. Or some coke. SWIM LOVES OC 80s though. Tiny lil pill, not much powder to blow, and great to share with a friend.

Another thing you might want to try to get nice and wet and that that way for a while, is to take the coating off of two OC20s, swollow one, and blow the other, I think you'll find the quick effects of the snorted pill, and the slower metabolization of the digested pill, make for a nice long buzz. An all night type of thing with a few beers and a couple of shots. Only, watch out for nausea. Eating pills does that to me some times. Mostly with hydrocodone though.

[Forthesevenlakes]

hm, that blow one 20, eat the other is something similar to what swim does after cutting up his 80's. he'll eat 20-30 mg, and blow another 10-20, the snorting tides him over til the eaten portion kicks in, and then he gets the longer effect of having swallowed it too! but newcomers to oc definitely shouldnt have 40 mg during their first time. its much too much without a tolerance.

[jesusfreak666er]

Originally Posted by Desertfox

why would you ever snort a pill with 325mg of tylenol in it. it is just a waste.

couldnt agree more, not just the fact thats the apap isnt euphoric, Swim is must point out the reasoning behind a cwe extraction, since apap isnt water soluble it wont dissolve in ones nose, meaning it just clogs it up and prevents the good opiate from being absorbed... swim will stop there before his addy rant goes off topic.

[Forthesevenlakes]

^^^ yeah, thatd be alot of powder and wouldnt do any good anyway. not like the apap contributes to the high. it does contribute to legit pain relief but thats about it. cwe all the way.

swim still cant figure out how someone could get a good buzz off percs but not oc though.

[skeeber]

I'm getting more out of my OC now. I like the eat one, snort one idea. I will try that. I do still prefer to snort percs. To each his own. I do respect and appreciate all your opinions though.