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Old 31-03-2013, 23:39
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Ok I know what everyone is going to say but here's the thing, 1. I've been through meth psychosis and this is not it. I'm not sleep or nutrient deprived and I'm well hydrated. 2. This never happens anywhere else or around anyone else 3. I've done meth many times and for exTended periods of time without anything like this happening and 4. I truly believe that my boyfriend has the means and the motive to pull thus off.
Here's what's been going on, whenever I'm at my boyfriends place whether high or not, rested or not, I can hear people talking shit outside, he lives in a trailer and there are many holes in the walls and places that people could hide, he keeps trying too tell me I'm hearing things and that I'm going through meth psychosis, but he looks at where the nose it's coming from and sometimes I catch him whispering out the windows, he also loses his temper on me alot. The other night we were messing around and he asked if he could you're me up, i said yeah and pretty him, then he was like do you trust me and i said yes, he looked me dead in the eyes and said it was the biggest mistake I've ever made, i nearly had a heart attack right then and made him untie me. Last night we went too the casino and he just disappeared, then people started following me around saying I'm a bitch and a slut, he got mad at me for being upset, then we sat at this slot machine and he won, said he was going to cash out and I went to look for him, I overheard a conversation then that fits this whole situation between him and his friends who were there, they were the ones following me. He keeps saying there's no reason anyone would do those things but I honestly believe that he is doing this on purpose......I just slept last night and out started up again this morning......I really think they are messing with me for amusement.

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Old 01-04-2013, 03:15
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Re: my boyfriend and his friend and their crazy fucking head games

Okay, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and take your word for it that you're not suffering psychosis. Why are you hanging out with this guy? You let him (for whatever reason) tie you to a chair and his response is trusting him is "the biggest mistake" you've ever made and he's serious? He's purposely trying to trip you out by talking through the walls? I dunno, if that's true than he's just cruel. Find someone else who doesn't do shit like that and date them instead.

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Old 01-04-2013, 11:16
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Re: my boyfriend and his friend and their crazy fucking head games

Firstly, let me just say that if it is psychosis you wouldn't necessarily be aware of that, so do keep that in mind. On the other hand, he may very well be doing all of what you say, or some of it.

My advice would be to find someone who you trust, who would have no interest in screwing with you and let this person in on what is going on and ask this person to evaluate on your behalf.

You should be prepared to accept that you may have read more into his actions than was intended, or if it is as you interpret it, to get the hell out of that relationship.
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Old 01-04-2013, 12:39
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Re: my boyfriend and his friend and their crazy fucking head games

They could be messing with you, which is bullshit. See that crap that people pull has always been obvious to me, ever since my friend fooled me the first time, I'll explain. I had the vector torch sitting right between me and my friend, that's where i put it, but i turned around it was gone. I said, "It was right there", what the hell happened to it, my friend was trying to convince me that i was crazy and that i must of misplaced it somewhere else. So then to humor him i walked outside my room and closed my door almost all the way but I left it a crack. I then watched as my friend pulled the torch out from his pocket and placed it where i had it originally. I called him on it, and he let out the most devious laughs or smirks i'd ever heard. So i know this may not make some sense, but although the drug does fuck up your mind, the fucking with your mind is deliberate. So when people percieve to use trigger words or bullshit like that around you to try and feel like they have control over you. Tell them to fuck off or bag on them back.

BTW, although the voices thing never happened to me, the voice problem really happened a lot to my friend. He was say that there's people outside whispering that they are going to kill him or beat him up. So i would do the brotherly thing a bring a flashlight with me outside and we'd walk around the house to make sure that in fact there aren't any assholes that want to kick my friends ass. I was trying to put his mind at ease so he wouldn't have a bad high.

Here's the problem though: If you're high, anything out of the ordinary that you pick up on or bring up(whether they are whispering words to screw with you) or not, could be blamed on the drug or you being in an altered state of mind. (THATS THEIR DEFENSE), to make you less credible, although hindsight is still 20/20.

Ialso personally think that people do screw with people, intentionally, because they're just evil or cruel, and so the user accused misjudges even their own recallecation or perception of events taking place. There's also unintentionally, if they are possess by the drug, which happens more time then not.

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Old 01-04-2013, 19:05
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Re: my boyfriend and his friend and their crazy fucking head games

Okay if he was talking all this shit on you, wouldnt he just break up with you and if he was going to just ditch you at the casino why did he invite you in the first place?
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Old 01-04-2013, 22:25
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Re: my boyfriend and his friend and their crazy fucking head games

This is a topic that really strikes a chord with me. I was in a relationship of almost 5 years with a guy who I thought was genuine. I guess I should've known things would end up on the rocks since we actually met at a "party"
It was around the second year of us being together that I started feeling uneasy about his intentions. We would use every once in a while, making it a rule that we would never do it unless we both were in agreence. There would be moments when I truly felt like he would mess with my mind because he would act really suspicious. Looking in different directions, making gestures that were out of character. There was an incident where I could swear he sneaked someone in to drive me insane by making noises and whisper things. The only reason why I could say it wasn't psychosis is because he tricked me Into walking outside with him, closing the door behind us. Then, I hear the alarm go off from someone opening the door... Someone obviously was sneaking out the front.
It was from then on that I never felt at ease with him. It was a Constant fear of him making me feel crazy or stupid. I eventually found out he was sneaking behind my back and using. He was also posting on sites looking for pnp (party and play) with other guys. The relationship dissipated shortly after.
The point I'm trying to make is that you should always trust your intuition. That gut feeling is there for a reason. And even if he wasn't trying to mess with you, you obviously don't feel at ease around him, so why stay? A relationship is based on trust and that is not the case in your relationship. Do your best to leave if u can. It is not mentally healthy.
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Old 01-04-2013, 23:03
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Re: my boyfriend and his friend and their crazy fucking head games

What your boyfriend is doing is called GASLIGHTING and is a form of psychological abuse........ Its used by people who are SOCIOPATHS (people with antisocial personality disorder) or people with other personality disorders to try to make you seem crazy......

He sounds like a sociopath to me....... ESPECIALLY when you said he loses his temper on you a lot and did this to you-

"The other night we were messing around and he asked if he could you're me up, i said yeah and pretty him, then he was like do you trust me and i said yes, he looked me dead in the eyes and said it was the biggest mistake I've ever made, i nearly had a heart attack right then and made him untie me. "

Type in gaslighting on google and read it on Wikipedia and it is the EXACT THING HE IS DOING TO YOU!!!!!!

Also, type in profile of a sociopath when you are done reading that and tell me if he fits the profile........ This should be interesting.......

I tried to post the links for you but it wouldn't let me

RichInMethadonia added 1 Minutes and 47 Seconds later...

Sounds like the same thing happened to you Simplicity, check out Gaslighting on Wikipedia and tell me what you think........

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Old 02-04-2013, 15:54
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Re: my boyfriend and his friend and their crazy fucking head games

Rich, that definitely sounds like he would be the type to use these tactics.
A little background on him: he has a psychology major. Has always been a habitual liar. Has been taken from home and sent overseas as a sort of "rehab".
I wouldn't put it past him. The crazy thing is that just recently, I was at a party and saw some of our old friends, and they all told me they thought I was the crazy one in the relationship but now that we have separated, he's gone spiriling down to rock bottom and I have tried my best to keep a normal lifestyle.
Sociopath fits the description perfectly.
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Old 02-04-2013, 16:20
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Re: my boyfriend and his friend and their crazy fucking head games

I don't understand why you would stay with him? Do you like being treated like a piece of shit? Have some more respect for yourself and tell this loser to fk off

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Old 02-04-2013, 19:17
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Re: my boyfriend and his friend and their crazy fucking head games

It's not easy to get out of any relationship. Anyone in these situations has my sympathy. I've never had that, but I did have an ex who was extremely controlling and used to take me to places where I could not get away so that he could leave in his car and I would be totally dependent. It ended when I hiked through the woods and hitched a ride the hell away. He was the best lover I ever had and I still miss him and I know that his actions were a product of his own demons...but, fuck that.

Simplicity7, you know what you need to do. You'll be okay.
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Old 02-04-2013, 19:38
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Re: my boyfriend and his friend and their crazy fucking head games

Liveinbkk
It's been done. Him n I don't speak any longer. I cut him out of my life completely, along with all the people he associated with. It's a never-ending cycle if u don't break it. And that's what I did. He tried to get back with me a year later but I was so over it. Made me a stronger person. And I advice anyone who is a situation like that to do the same. It starts with takin control of your own life and not apologizing for it.
And like you said, I miss him very much and still care for him, but I live myself more to know that that relationship was self destructive.
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Old 04-04-2013, 00:24
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Re: my boyfriend and his friend and their crazy fucking head games

I don't believe it's him doing it........as of the other day anyways, I'm convinced that it's a form of gangstalking, he does believe I'm paranoid but I don't, my husband was involved in some activities which led to his arrest sometime in the not so distant past, I meet my boyfriends shortly thereafter, I knew that the cops were fucked up but I didn't know they could do these things until I started doing some research, I came to my home and everything just stopped, my friend that I live with is an electronics/programming pro and runs software to ensure that nobody could be recording here or using v2k technology around our home. The thing is that the other day I was followed by many people until I finally gave up on running and just sat down against the side of this building, they were standing there saying cruel things to me and mocking and i could hear someone commenting on how messed up it was to do that to someone.......I mean I was freaking out and hoping at that point that someone would call the police, in ant other situation like that someone would have........it's just really got me thinking and the thing is I've NEVER had a single delusion or other than very small ones while on actual hallucinogens, I know I sound crazy and believe whatever you want but there are other factors involved here......during my husbands arrest I refused to allow them to search me without probable cause, they had it and still cut me loose, why? Not only that even my boyfriend who is my biggest skeptic is starting to wonder if the feds r following us.

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Old 04-04-2013, 00:52
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Re: my boyfriend and his friend and their crazy fucking head games

You need to speak about these things with a medical professional. That's all we can tell you. I'm sorry but I believe you are delusional and suffering psychosis. I'm not a doctor but if it looks like a duck, well you know the rest...

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thank you for not sugar coating it or feeding into this possible dellusion. Hopefully your advice won't be ignored.
First rational post in this thread.
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Old 04-04-2013, 17:25
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Re: my boyfriend and his friend and their crazy fucking head games

Agreed MP, this is starting to sound like untreated schizophrenia. Spokathryn, PLEASE go see a doctor and tell him/her about the people who are tormenting you, and PLEASE follow his/her advice...
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Old 04-04-2013, 18:46
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Re: my boyfriend and his friend and their crazy fucking head games

here's the thing..
you say you are worried the FEDS or cops are following you and are afraid to type in certain details of what is going on BUTTTTTTTTtt-- you choose to access a website where drug use is openly discussed and post your own experiences using drugs from any device that most likely can get traced back to you (or the owner of said device)
that does not make any sense.
some possible explanations or solutions:

-if you are concerned, truly concerned- ask yourself why anyone who has been following you-especially cops or feds like you stated- would overlook all the illegal activity they've seen you engage in or seen others engage in while watching you. seriously, theyre not looking after you and if they are, what have you done to make them feel the need to watch you for at least a couple of days now, waste money, and let possible drug charges slip through the cracks?
- your boyfriend is an asshole, hes fucking with you and it's clear why- because it probably amuses him to see you act like this, as sick as that may be. Try not to date anyone you met because of drugs WHILE your husband is in jail- your head is not in the right place and as much as you are done with your husband, your vulnerable and likely to fall for assholes (like the ones who want to mess with you and have you freaking out in public.)
- get some sleep, lay off the drugs for a couple of days and if the feeling that you are being watched has not subsided (see if its still there while you are not engaging or at risk for being charged with any sort of illegal activity) THEN go talk to a therapist and a very very very close friend or relative who you trust with this sort of information. A therapist to get you through it and maybe find the deeper issue if there is one. a close friend or relative, just in case something does happen and you were right, someone knows about it and this won't get swept under the rug.


but really, if you are that paranoid that you are being watched- why are you documenting your fears on a drug related website? you're not doing yourself any favors and are not going to find the help you need here. no one has been in your situation nor ever will be in the exact situation youre in and from what you have described, your situation is not one that can be helped without knowing you personally and knowing the people involved in it as well. sorry.

i hope you get some peace in this though, because it does sound like a nightmare to be in this situation.

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Old 04-04-2013, 18:51
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Re: my boyfriend and his friend and their crazy fucking head games

There is no such thing as "Gangstalking". You are severely mentally ill, along with all those people on YouTube.

For those of you who have not had the fortune to run across the newest tin-foil hat lunacy sweeping teh InterTubze, Gangstalking is the belief that there is a VAST conspiracy of agents who spend their entire lives attempting to slightly inconvenience "target individuals". Too many people online at the grocery, Gang Stalking! See four red cars on the road, Gang Stalking. Invisible rays shooting out of your neighbors car, Gang Stalking. Crow in a field sitting there pecking at some corn, GANG STALKING!!! Anything and everything becomes "signals" and "harassment".

Look up this guy on YouTube to see what this is all about: stealthwavef22raptor


This is all crazy gibberish. Shared delusions. You need to seek real and immediate psychiatric help before someone gets hurt or killed. Stop the meth, throw it all out, don't fricken touch it ever again. Get yourself clean.

Keep this up and you're life is going to end up a sad pathetic mess.

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A welcome breath of sanity.
So true! This is delusions, and this post made me laugh.
solid opinion backed up by other sources debunking the "gangstalking" theory as well as being blunt about the mental danger this person is putting themselves in
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Old 04-04-2013, 21:38
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Re: my boyfriend and his friend and their crazy fucking head games

LOL OMG Thank you for posting about that guy who thinks he is being "Gangstalked"!!!! LOL! These people are NUTS!!!! It is truly sad and funny at the same time.........

Here are some good videos to watch on Youtube By name:

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LMAO!!! Thank you for posting that info about this so-called "gangstalking" LOL these people are truly NUTS! It's funny and kinda sad at the same time.....

Here are some hilarious ones to watch on youtube by name since I cant post links:

1. "Gangstalked by gangstalkers who enjoy gangstalking"

2. "Walmart Gangstalker part 1" and "Walmart Gangstalker part 2" (That guy who made these is frighteningly mentally ill.......

3. "Special place in hell perp of the week" LOL you have to read the video description to know what this nut is talking about......

I have only watched a few but OH MAN I never knew people actually thought this stuff existed! Crazy!

RichInMethadonia added 4 Minutes and 18 Seconds later...

Oops sorry for the "double post" guys...... My computer flickered whenever I tried to post that........

Actually, now that I think about it, it was probably one of the gangstalkers trying to stop me from posting this!!!! LOLOLOL

RichInMethadonia added 28 Minutes and 20 Seconds later...

OMG sorry to post so many times but I found a HILARIOUS MUST SEE youtube video of a guy who thinks he is being gangstalked and sprayed with pesticides in walmart!!!! LOL you can clearly see he is delusional and nothing is being sprayed...... It seems like once somebody is convinced of "gangstalkers" they think almost every other person is one!!!!

The video on youtube is called

"Walmart Gangstalking-Sprays People With Pesticides With Special Cart"

THIS IS A MUST SEE PEOPLE, YOU WILL LAUGH YOUR ASSES OFF!!!!!

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this was a wildly inappropriate post in this thread. It's not HILARIOUS, LMAO! LOL! Someone is suffering. Grow the fuck up.
It is unfair to laugh at someone who needs help, which is what we try to provide on this site.

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Old 04-04-2013, 21:48
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Re: my boyfriend and his friend and their crazy fucking head games

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I dont think this is funny its just sad, i feel sorry for them, and laughing about it on this thread is cuntish, some of these people are a danger to themselves and others.

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Old 04-04-2013, 21:54
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Re: my boyfriend and his friend and their crazy fucking head games

Sorry if you think Iam being "cuntish" Soso, I don't mean to be but if you watch these videos, especially the last one, you will see these people are delusional for no reason over normal everyday things....... I don't think all of these are cases of shizoophrenia or mental illness either, but most probably are.....

Also, the OP who made this thread may actually be being made fun of by her boyfriends friends, but I highly doubt gangstalking.......

Sorry if I hurt anybodies feelings but come on people...........
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Re: my boyfriend and his friend and their crazy fucking head games

Thats kinda funny. Like once, or during one high episode. Thanks for the tips on driving u nuts, ill try some of those angles, i especially liked the tied up insanity question/response, my gf loves being tied up, and imthink that question would freak her out and scare her, but like i said, just the one time!

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Re: my boyfriend and his friend and their crazy fucking head games

Dude why would you want to mess with your lady like that. It is horrbile cruel to screw with folks at sensitive times. And to the op baby girl you need to lay off potter is right. Even if it is someone messing with you which I highly doubt but even if it is you need to put the drugs away so you can have a clear head.it seems like in your life right now you need to have your game face on.
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Re: my boyfriend and his friend and their crazy fucking head games

its a terrible feeling to deal with your significant other having delusional thoughts.

In my experience, my gf would hear me and my friends say terrible things about her in the other room while she was getting ready in the bathroom. When she finally built up the courage to confront me about it I would tell her no and that i would never say those things. She would agree, dismiss me and go back to doing her hair/ makeup.

15 min later, again she would call me to the back. This time crying and asked with piercing eyes, "You SWEAR you weren't just telling 'M' that...*something that would hurt anybody/fuck with anyones head*... DO NOT lie to me, please!" I told her "No babe, you know I'm not like that, and why would I talk so loud you could hear them if I were to?"(I'm naturally quiet and reserved.)

She said "You said that too! You told 'M' you were going to talk loud so that when i asked you could deny it and make me feel crazy!"

I knew how to handle it, so i convinced her to take a break from smoking, sleep, and tell me EVERYTHING so she wouldn't keep it in her head when it wasn't real. Luckily in our case, we fixed it before it got too bad.

The mind is crazy powerful, if you lose the ability to tell when somethings real or just your head playing trick on you, you can become a slave to your own delusions. Like those people mentioned above, "Gangstalkers" have become their entire life. That youtube user -- "stealthwavef22raptor" -- i noticed he uploads a new video like every hour and its just another 12 sec clip of someone throwing away trash. It's sad but his mind is probably set in defense mode so anyone trying to talk sense to him is dismissed as another "poor-blind sheep" to the world and 'proof' that gangstalkers are an advanced conspiracy hidden from the public.... BUT NOT THEM! *joking*
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Re: my boyfriend and his friend and their crazy fucking head games

I have to agree with MP, Potter, and others who are encouraging you to see a doctor.

I have dated a girl with mild schizophrenia before, and have a friend I've been hanging out with for the past couple years with severe schizophrenia. Assuming you are not doing meth, the symptoms you describe are strong indicators - seeing and hearing people around you conspiring or talking badly about you, hearing voices "outside" but that are never there to be seen, thinking you just saw someone say something scary to you (especially if you are already afraid/anxious). Your meth usage likely contributed to bringing it out.

All of these things regularly happen to my friend who is diagnosed. He knows how to deal with it, and occasionally has to check with the people around if they really said what he thought they said, which is sometimes pretty messed up. Part of being his friend is being careful with certain actions and the way I phrase things, which can trigger his paranoid thoughts, but which are pretty intuitive to understand (at least to me as a bipolar).

Since you seem to be going back and forth about whether it is your boyfriend or not, and judging by the statements you've made, it makes it seem more likely that you actually have schizophrenia. There is a small possibility that you could be dating someone who is a methed-up psycho and has found a group of other psychos who are willing to waste hours of their life frequently messing with you. But there is not a gang of random people who get together most nights to "mess with your head" - that is a complete delusion.

Giving you the benefit of the doubt, and if it was me personally, I would start objectively checking the facts around me, in ways that I know could not be altered by my perception or emotions. I already need to do this with just being bi-polar; but in your case with the added disturbances and severity I would recommend it as a preliminary way to check facts if you are not ready to see a psychiatrist yet. Maybe just get a tape recorder and leave it on one evening through night, make notes what time you hear things, and then later go back and check if it is on the tape. Or, although it might be considered immoral, tape record your boyfriend and if you recall him saying anything crazy, scary, etc., go back and check. Those are just examples, but like I said think of ways that work with your life to have an objective recording of the facts of a situation to compare to your recollection - which you can go back and review later, repeatedly.

I know how irritating it can feel to have people completely dismiss what you perceive is really happening as "just a delusion." You feel like they cannot possibly know all the facts, and are just being dismissive, callous, and not giving any real thought or consideration to what you are trying to tell them. But honestly what are you describing, and the tone of your writing, makes it seem almost certain that you are experiencing symptoms of schizophrenia. Take it from a severe bi-polar, whose social group for the past 5 years has mostly consisted of bi-polars, borderline personality disorders, schizophrenics, schizoaffective disorders, and other reality-warping conditions. You really should go to a doctor, or at least consider what I've said and find a way to check your facts in a way that is completely objective, unalterable, and which you would feel confident in. Or by spending time around people you completely trust, to check with when you think these things are occurring.
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Re: my boyfriend and his friend and their crazy fucking head games

Soooooo......yeah, thats called either meth psyhosis or someone put some acid in my coolaid, definitely a rough patch buti took a few days to rest and eat, was still going through it for a bit. And then, i took a shot the night before last and my head felt clear as crystal. I would not recommend doing that much dope in the span of a month to anyone, the problem was not just a lack of sleep but a lack of nutrients combined with an accumulated sleep dep and became REALLY intense very quickly. No i dont normally hear or see shit thats not there, i dont believe the feds are after me and i am feeling much much better. Ugh i feel like a reknob....no i'm not quitting, just cutting back alot. Also, my phone is not connected to my name, and neither is the email i use to post on here! Thank you all so much for your concern , hope everyone is well. <3 kat

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Thank you for coming back to update the thread & letting us know the end result! Good idea to cut back on your meth use & try to avoid these problems in the future! :)
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Re: my boyfriend and his friend and their crazy fucking head games

Thabks for coming back and letting everyone know how things are now.
Im delighted that you are feeling better and that you have come through what must have been a very difficult and disturbing time for you.
Please keep this thread in mind in case you ever start to drift off again, so you might be able to nip it in the bud.
Welcome back to reality!!

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