How Long can it last ? Who can we speak to ?

[sman]

Hi guys, looking for a bit of advice if any of you can help.

My fiancee and I (both users of about 3 years) went to a festival on the weekend. Both used pills, and shrooms. Me about 20 pills over 2 days, her about 11. Her a few shrooms, me about 8. All over the Saturday n Sunday.

We were fine until Monday, and then things kicked in.
We expected the usual fluffy headedness, and miseries.
Took the usual procautions, 5HTP, Vit E,C, Multi Vits. Plenty of water and rest etc.

However, now it's Thursday, we both still have wonky vision. We both have stuffy heads. It feels like there is a constant pressure there, like someone with their hand on our heads.
After all this time should it not have gone ??

We went to the doctors, the doctor actually asked "what is a mushroom?" which wasnt a good start. Took blood, tested our liver and said it was fine. Sent us home, told us to drink plenty of water and rest.
Didnt sound too useful.

Went to the hospital and they told us it was most likely dehyrdration, and that we were missing salts. Told us to drink a load of lucozade sports and sleep. Which we've done - but still no change.

Has anyone had effects last this long ? We've never had anything like this before and we're both pretty scared now but dunno who we can go to.

Any bright ideas folks ?

Cheers.

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[RPS]

Although your situation does seem somewhat threatening, it most likely isn't.
However, do not take that as a reason to "let your gaurd down" as you should still be cautious about the situation.

In my past experiences with large amounts of MDMA, I have been in the same place as you have, but the duration of time was significantly smaller than yours stated. I continued to drink moderate amounts of water, and juice, and ate healthy meals, and eventually the "side effects" subsided, and I was fine.

But since everyone will have different reactions to the drug, I suggest that you do as the medical professionals say, and keep in touch with them about the situation. I also suggest that you come clean with your doctor, and tell him the actual sitiuation, and what it involves. If you do have a relationship with the doctor that is not professional (ie. are friends outside work) than I suggest you see another doctor and tell him/her of the situation and follow his/her advice.

Once again, I do not believe the situation is anything to worry about, but since peope are all different, I would stay cautious, and stay in touch with a doctor.

My two cents.

Cheers,
RPS

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Good advice

[sman]

We've been completely upfront with the doctor and the hospital right from the outset, told them every little detail as there is no point in hiding anything.

The problem is - they seem to have little or no knowledge and telling us to go home and drink water just seems like a bit of a fob off.
At some point if the effects dont go away, we're going to need someone to "do" something, I just dunno how we're going to achieve that.

[Alfa]

Since you are talking about pills, you have no clue what and how much SWIY and his GF have actually taken. I assume the shrooms where psilocybe cubensis? Any idea on the weight of them?
If we take a wild guess and assume that we are talking about a MDMA intake of 1400 mg's for SWIY and 770 for her, then I am amazed SWIY and his GF got off this well. With these crazy amounts, it's hard to say. But no one here knows what has been in those pills. Please tell me all the pills where identical and SWIY didn't eat anything that got on his path. If this is so, it might be a good idea to test such a pill with a xtc test.

Back in the day before cars and television SWIM was foolish enough to pull a simular action. Took a month before SWIM was on top of things.

[WrtngCocaineTutorial]

Originally Posted by sman

Took the usual procautions, 5HTP, Vit E,C, Multi Vits. Plenty of water and rest etc..

Vit C does NOTHING unless it's in the blood at the same time as the roll

It's for it's antioxidant properties. The oxidation has allready occored when the roll is finished

[Tony Blair]

Originally Posted by sman

Any bright ideas folks ?

Cheers.

Wait it out. Excercise, fruit, 8 hours kip a night for 2 weeks. Shouldn't be too bad, after all, you didn't expect to feel good after that, did you?

[chemicaljustice]

SWIM had pretty similair effects after an adventure of too heavy usage. As Superlev stated, excercise was a good help for me. Just take long relaxing walks (preferably through quiet places with as little people as possible, like a forest). Keep a regular (and laid back) schedule for the day. Make sure you go to bed early and get up early (this will increase the amount of daylight you get and this will make you feel better).
Eat healthy, full meals at least 3 times a day (breakfast, lunch, supper).
I think you should be feeling somewhat better after a week and things should be pretty back to normal in a week or 3.

Hope you get well soon!

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Good advice :)

[chemicaljustice]

Originally Posted by WrtngCocaineTutorial

Vit C does NOTHING unless it's in the blood at the same time as the roll

It's for it's antioxidant properties. The oxidation has allready occored when the roll is finished

I don't quite agree here.

High doses of MDMA have a two-phase effect on serotonergic functioning, first causing acute decreases, then partial recovery, then chronic decreases. For example, after a single dose of 10 mg/kg MDMA to a rat, release of 5-HT leads to depletion of tissue levels of 5-HT and its metabolite 5-HIAA within 3 hours of dosing (Schmidt 1987; Stone, 1987b). Approximately 6 hours later, levels begin to return to normal, but this recovery is not sustained. About 24 hours after dosing, 5-HT levels begin a second, sustained decrease and remain significantly lower than baseline 2 weeks later. This sustained decrease is thought to be associated with axonal damage.

source: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma...oxicity1.shtml

This makes believe the damage actually occurs after the roll, as the effects allready whore off. This is also backed up by research with after exposure treatment with SSRI's of rats. Treating them with a SSRI aprox 6 houres after the administration of MDMA had the same effects as administrating it directly after the MDMA. In my opinion the whisest thing to do is using a high-dosage water-solvable 1000 mg tablets (quick absorbance in the bloodstream and thus high plasma-levels of anti oxidants) just prior to and a few days after an E-adventure.

[sman]

Well, a week later I am just starting to feel like myself again.
My fiancee still has the "packed out" head feeling, though she thinks it's starting to subside now possibly.
I think we're looking at a 2 week return to normal, providing she does.

Never gone through ANYTHING like this before and it has more than taught us a lesson. That's the end of the pills game for us.
Time to try out herbal stuff I think.
Really dont want to go through that again.

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[KomodoMK]

The key is in moderation. Guess the majority of us learned this the hard way. Glad to hear your feeling better though, your post should serve as a warning to those here researching before trying MDMA.

[RPS]

Like stated before, the key is moderation. Taking large amounts of anything is never good, especially when it is an illegal drug.

If I were you, I would not use MDMA for 2months+ and than try it in small amounts.

My 0.02.

Cheers,
RPS