Ireland - Salvia ban in Ireland???

[Alfa]

I am hearing rumours about Salvia getting banned in Ireland. Does anyone know more?

[Abrad]

Do you mean that it has already been banned or that it is going to be banned? I haven't heard anything and there hasn't been any incidents that could be used to justify such a ban, unlike mushrooms. This is a lttle worrying though, I will try and get some info over the weekend.

[Alfa]

I have heard rumors from a Dutch distributor that salvia is going to be banned in Ireland. I do not know what's going on, but really would like to know.

[Abrad]

I'll go into Dublin city in the morning and see if the headshops know anything. Might be time to stock up for the Irish members here.

[Jimmeh]

Aw shit....

Looks like SWIM'll have to stock up....

SWIM's friend's getting some tommorrow, SWIM'll tell him to ask about it.

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[Alfa]

What I hear is that the minister is going to sign the ban on monday. Better stock up real quick.

[Jimmeh]

Originally Posted by Alfa

What I hear is that the minister is going to sign the ban on monday. Better stock up real quick.

How reliable is this source of info? And is it possible for legislation to be implemented when the Dáil isn't in session?

[Abrad]

Shit, SWIM only has a gram of 10x left. Nobody I know has heard anything about this although it would be typical for it to happen without warning or discussion. I really hope you are wrong but I suspect you are not...
If it happens I wonder how they'll justify it.

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Something to bear in mind is that the Dail (Irish Parliment) are currently on holidays and won't sit again until September.

[podge]

i heard rumours that they have planning a ban on everything else potent in head shops in ireland since they realised mushrooms are'nt the only thing people are interested in.swim doesnt even have enough money to stock up in case they do sign the bill on monday.......fuck.......

[Nature Boy]

Fuck! That's completely out of the blue with absolutely no justification whatsoever, just when SWIM was getting into salvia and all. It's hardly surprising really though. The way things are going now San Pedro/Peruvian Torch, piperazines, fly agarics, etc. will all get banned too. This is a perfect example of totalitarianism. The bastards.

[n-squared]

Where did people hear about the ban? This is not good for SWIM. I'd be surprised if Ireland banned it before the UK though.

[Nature Boy]

Then get ready to be surprised. Don't underestimate what the government can do about something like this. There's little or no argument against this so they can do as they please really.

[Nagognog2]

Salvia lends itself to indoor cultivation quite nicely, I've heard. If any monkey's have plants, then some cuttings would make nice gifts to their friends. A little rock-wool and some rooting compound and away they grow!

Some nice fire-nettles and poison oak would make a nice gift for you-know-who as well.

[Jimmeh]

Originally Posted by Nagognog2

Salvia lends itself to indoor cultivation quite nicely, I've heard. If any monkey's have plants, then some cuttings would make nice gifts to their friends. A little rock-wool and some rooting compound and away they grow!

Yeah but SWIM thinks making extracts would be a bitch.

[adzket]

if this is going to happen in ireland what about the uk? any one no if this is going to be banned to. off topic but i don’t think it will be long before san pedro's and the like are banned as the old shroom sellers along camden market london have moved on to selling these cacti as well as that toad stool is it amanitas? even if they ban it surly there is not that much research or history of use for them to look at to warrant a high scheduling like with shrooms so hopefully if they did it would only be class c.

[podge]

if salvia is taken off the shelves it will be bad.....but if san pedro and peruvian torch are taken it will be the work of satan himself.

[Nature Boy]

I don't see how anyone can really make an intelligent argument against the researched individuals' use of mescaline cactus. With this government though, where there's a will...

[Nature Boy]

Any update on this? SWIM's too lazy to buy the papers, although it wouldn't be surprising if it wasn't even mentioned.

[Mr. Giraffe]

Originally Posted by Nature Boy

I don't see how anyone can really make an intelligent argument against the researched individuals' use of mescaline cactus. With this government though, where there's a will...

Yeah, but that's not how the head shops are selling them.

Besides, who has ever needed an intelligent argument to ban a drug?

This really doesn't help, either:

Originally Posted by Alfa

Darcy Petticrew, owner of Himalayan Crafts Ltd in Co Meath, sells salvia and says there has been a massive increase in demand since the magic mushrooms ban. "You go to another dimension when you take it," he says.
"It's so intense, you couldn't possibly take it on your own. We suggest that someone babysits you. For five minutes, you literally aren't there."

'Couldn't possibly take it on your own'?

I know that's not true, you know that's not true, but the ignorant readers don't. They must be thinking this is some powerful shit... hell, Darcy makes it sound like green crack.

[podge]

Swim read papers and found nothing in relation to the subject and swim has just returned from talking to people from a head shop in town and they had heard nothing about this either but they claimed even if the bill is passed it will take a number of weeks to take effect. so if it is true there should be enough time to stock up.......hopefully anyway.

[Abrad]

Originally Posted by podge

they claimed even if the bill is passed it will take a number of weeks to take effect.

Yeah, just like the mushroom ban...

[podge]

Originally Posted by abrad84

Yeah, just like the mushroom ban...

just telling ya what they told swim man.swim went to another head shop today and they havent heard anything about the ban but he said he wouldnt be surprised if it happened soon.......come on ireland,keep banning nature..... how long before they find a reason to ban potatoes?

[adzket]

Originally Posted by podge

how long before they find a reason to ban potatoes?

all they need to do that is take a closer look at poteen, po'cheen or poitin which ever way you want to say it or spell it. supose it depends on how drunk you is lol. but i have heard it is leathel stuff upto 90% proff. very very wrong.

[Nature Boy]

Either way, it's still happening. And stock-ups will only last so long. Ah well, time to buy some crack off some dodgy illegal alien instead.

[D.U.M.B]

So any idea when this ban is taking effect and any idea what other substances the bloody stupid irish government are planning to ban