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Old 24-06-2008, 18:58
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Re: dpt trip report.

ok sorry about the time gap ive been extremely busy

The following is a continued exert from SWIF's personal Diary

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Substance - DPT hydrochloride salt
Method of Administration - insufflated
Onset - 15-20 minutes
Peak lasting - 45 minutes - 1 hour
Total time - 3 hours

Dose - 80mg
Once again the horrible taste coats the back of my throat and nose as with 40mg. This sickening taste subsides after 4-5 minutes and i have the usual 10-15 minute waiting period with no effects. Effects when they do come on are very rapid even more so at this increased dosage, i notice pictures begin to change and move and walls begin to breathe, but before i know it most of the objects in the room and moving. With this being my second time with the substance i remained inside again which made me feel somewhat like i was in a circus. The intensity combined with the repetition of visual patterns gave the feelings and sensation i was on some kind of circus ride. As this dosage emotions are even more intense and at certain points i was laughing uncontrolably. Tracers are definately present and Closed are visuals are very entertaining. The intensity has definately increased from the 40mg dosage but no realnew profound effects have occured. Emotions are picked up in music but to be honest the visuals are so profound they tended to detract from any auditory experience i was trying to have

Dose - 150mg
Having tried the above dosages several times i decided for quite a heavy dose, figuring i wouldnt get much chance to do this again as the molicule was a finite resource. Same old taste still nothing new there. Onset is the same and feels only as intense as the 80mg dosage at first... 15 minutes later after the initial dosage however things started to get significantly more intense, i happened to be outside at the time, the houses and lamposts where already bending and the floor looked very similar to how oil looks when put on water, that kind of shimmering surface. My general vision started to become pixalated and the whole experience started to become very cartoon like. Me and my friend (known as E) decided it was time to return to the house as the effects were ever increasing in intensity and it was become hard to walk and see. On the way back a motorcycle drove passed, it's loud engine echoed into our vision, it was one of the most impressive, amazing and utterly terrifying experiences ive ever had. As the bike went passed our whole vision vibrated with colours, like shaking a tray with oil on water on top of it. It became impossible to see until the bike passed. When returning, i attempted to put the key in the lock which took what seemed like an eternity not being able to judge the distance and it was constantly changing and also the fact that the key was melting into my hand. Reaching inside i felt what can only be described as one of the most intense what i would call dopamine rushes, very similar to cocaine IV. I remember saying something like "WE MADE IT!" and feeling like i'd conquored the world. Shortly after that we were sitting and id calmed down a little but the visuals were still in full force making it hard to move around, most of the movement was done off touch and kind of clawing my way to somewhere. While me and E made movements of sports with our arms creating a slow motion finish effect because of the sheer ridiculous numbers of tracers on any movement at all. This was hilarous. Shortly after this i closed my eyes and saw still what i believe to this day to be the most beautiful thing ive ever seen, closed eye visuals in beautiful colourful patterns but in colours that i have never seen in a non drug induced state. For several minutes we started into the back of our eyelids in total wonder. At this point i realised my nose felt blocked and i wanted to blow it, where had i put that tissue, i looked around and soon it became a desperate desire, like something i'd always wanted, Ive never wanted something so much in my life, i quickly realised after pineing for a short while that in fact it was right next to me. I blow my nose and i genuinely thought a waterfall had come out, the sensation to touch was massive, all my hands felt soaking wet and i felt like there was gunge all over them. At first i felt pretty uneasy but we quickly helped each other get over it. the effects began to wear off but i was still tripping at a 40mg trip level for a good 2 hours post peak. The bodyload at this level is so intense it actually becomes euphoric, or did for me and E and it seems that the higher the dose the more pleasant it becomes and less agitating. Utterly exhaused i'd just had one of the best experiences of my life.

80mg DPT + 120mg MDMA
I'd go into alot of detail but there isnt that much point with this. The DPT significantly overpowers the MDMA, i was hoping to increase the music appreciation but DPT visuals dominate the experience again. There is definately some potentation but for me it just felt like i was more fucked and head smashed rather than a smooth synergy, i found some entactogenic properties and empathy but its' just far too distorted with the DPT. The combination isnt really one id go for again.

Sidenote: It's worth noting the experience is that intense that while i am operational even 5 hours after the inital dose it took me 3 or 4 days at least to integrate each experience, and i felt somewhat shaken for up to a week after.
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Feel free to ask any questions about the above and ill try to answer them

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Allergic reaction?

This afternoon SWIM decided to experiment DPT for the first time. He snorted 25mg of DPT HCl through the right nostril. It didn't hurt while snorting but after 5 min SWIM reports a severe burn in his nose and specially throat. In the reports SWIM read this was common. SWIM was also tasting DPT peculiar flavour like others have described.

One or two minutes later SWIM was tearing from his right eye which got red. By that time he got a runny nose like he had never had before (SWIM has chronic rhinitis) but only from the right nostril. At t+15min SWIM's right ear started to hurt and the burn in his throat got even worse.

When at t+30min everything was getting worse, hurting or burning even more, SWIM decided to go to bed hoping to relax and/or get some sleep. He spent most of the time awaked but got some minutes of sleep in intervals. When sleeping SWIM dreamt a lot and most of the times awaked due to the dream.

At t+2h SWIM's throat and nose were much better so he decided to get up. His eye was no longer red and SWIM felt and looked refreshed and able to proceed with his normal routine. Only his ear still hurt and still hurts by now at t+3h.

Except the dreams SWIM believes he experienced no psychological alterations but he also says DPT effects could have been overpowered when dealing with the allergic reaction. He is somehow intrigued on how only the right side of his skull suffered allergic effects.
SWIM now wonders what he'll do with the reaming DPT he has. He would like to confirm if he has an allergy to it or just to snorting it. SWIM was planning to follow Safe Research Chemicals User's Guide tips on how to test for allergic reaction. Would that be a good idea?
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Never snort when you have a cold

When SWIM took DPT (reported in the post above) he was with the initial symptoms of a cold that was going to last a week long. He then though that the irritation he had already on his throat and sinuses might be what caused the allergic reaction when DPT salt further attacked these areas.
So after the cold was gone he snorted another 25mg of DPT HCl and this time the only unwanted side effect he got was a runny nose for two days. SWIM now says: Never snort anything if your airways are already irritated.

SWIM sent me a small report:
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23h30, t - I divide 25mg of DPT HCl in two lines, one to each nostril and then snort them with enough strength just to lead the powder to the sinuses and not further into the throat (where it could burn and make me uncomfortable for the rest of the night).
t+2m - Start to watch "The Mind's Eye" while drinking water regularly to avoid any accumulation of DPT in my throat.
t+10m - I feel the warning I get before any psychedelic takes on (hard to describe) but it could also be placebo.
t+15m - Definitely something is happening. I feel a slight body buzz.
t+20m - "The Mind's Eye" is so beautiful!
t+30m - Peak. I pause the movie. The face of a sitting Egyptian like wooden cat I have changes according to my emotions. From enraged and sinister to grinning fit to bust with round cheeks. The pace of transformation is slow as is the change in my emotions.
t+35m - I seat on a beanbag and relax with my eyes closed. I found it hard to decide whether I would listen to music or not. I decide not to. There are no CEV now as there won't be during this trip and apart from the wooden cat there were no more OEV.
t+40m - Thoughts follow each other (in a slow rhythm) without a link. The current subject is totally unrelated to the previous one (or that's I think).
t+45m - I feel I'm coming down and watch the rest of the movie.
t+1h10m - I'm back to baseline.
t+1h50m - Music feels so good! Maybe I'm not at baseline yet.
t+3h - I go to bed and have no trouble falling asleep.

I dreamt a lot that night and had the most vivid and strange dreams I can remember.
It was a mellow trip without euphoric or frightening states. It's just a glimpse on this compound and I'll certainly increase the dose next time.


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Re: dpt trip report.

After two mellow trips with DPT finally SWIM was able to breakthrough. Here is he's report:
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At 2 am I snorted 60 mg of DPT HCl. After 10 min, while I was reading on the computer, neon like electric colours (green, yellow, red and some blue) appeared concentrated in small dots on the screen. They outlined geometrical patterns specially circles and then animal forms like fishes, seagulls, frogs and most of all chameleons appeared. I just had time to finish one last sentence, turn off the lights and the computer screen and close my eyes.

As I closed them the visuals came really strong: the animal forms and geometrical patterns were circulating around the centre of my vision and becoming more and more complex in a way I can't describe. The colours were so bright I even though they would burn my eyes. At the same time aural hallucinations came on. What I heard was like those tones flipper machines play really similar to the Windows Pinball. I had seen similar visuals and heard similar tones in previous trips but this time both were so well defined: crystal clear.

I paid attention to visuals and tones during a fraction of a second, the instant just after perceiving them I remembered they were a distraction and gave all my attention to my thoughts. As I made this decision I entered a sort of game that I played during the entire trip. The game started at reality 0, the reality were I my thoughts are during the most part of my life and I had to figure out something about this reality. Each time I had an insight about something that happens in the reality I was I would pass to the next reality, the next level. When I passed a level my visual field would break like a mirror and as the shreds of glass were falling the complexity of the visuals and the tone increased exponentially in phenomenal ways. For instance, what I saw in my entire field of vision before would fit in a small cube. The visuals became more and more 3D like each new level and in the upper ones I felt they were somehow 4D, connected with time.

Along with the insight I had also to let go the perception of my body to be able to pass a level. I felt more and more disconnected from reality 0 and this was what imposed a limit to where I was able to go: the fear of death. One of my insights was that each new level I became closer to what is like being death: I had more knowledge and time and space became meaningless. The levels would succeed into the infinite and if I reached the infinite it would mean I was dead. I was afraid about what would happen to my body while I was away in some other reality and that kept me from passing to the next level.

If I wasn't able to pass a level I would fall back to level 0. It was like falling onto the ground from a great hight or receiving a super strong punch. I had to start the game again but whenever I restarted the game it became easier and faster to go deeper.

The insights and thoughts I had were thighs like:
  • “Now I see what a trip sitter is for. A sitter now would enable me to let go and don't worry about my body.”
  • “Everything is illusions of illusions of illusions.”
  • “I just want more knowledge.”
  • “How far will I go?”
Among thousands or perhaps millions of thoughts there are 5 themes which I can remember now and were somehow more important for me:

1. As I reached some levels I perceived I had already been in them somewhere in the past with the help of other substances or in dreams. The following graphic tries to represent that:

  • “Wait a second. I've already been in this level in a dream. But I just know this because I'm here know and somehow I know I'll come back.”
2. I was unable to pass a level and fell to reality 0 as I described before. I was at the bathroom sink and looking into the mirror I perceived I was having an allergic reaction to DPT (like what happened in a trip before): my nose was continuously dripping and I had both eyes really red and crying. I got a bit worried and just when I had that felling visuals turned from green, yellow and red to pink, purple and blue. The tone got sinister resembling the The Addams Family theme and the snot coming out of my nose appeared like blood and there was now blood all over the sink. I simply laugh at it “Ehehe. What my brain can do. I just have to know what it is capable of to recognize a bad trip.” And everything came back to what it was before as fast as it had turned sinister.

3. Every time I came back to reality 0 I looked at the watch and concluded the more deeper I'd been the more time has passed. In one instance 30 min passed and during those I was disconnected from my body and unable to control it. Hopefully I didn't leave my chair but this realization was a brake for my trip. I was afraid of going too deep and harm myself.

4. The most amazing level I remember passing was when I though “Wait. Just like visuals were a distraction this sort of game I'm playing can also be one.” What was amazing wasn't this though but it's outcome. Instead of leaving the game behind like what happened with visuals I got much deeper into it: visuals and tone increased so much I feared being sucked by them and it became more real than reality 0. The game was all that was and not just a distraction. I entered in ecstasy, I was blessed I could play.

5. As I was coming down I found it more and more difficult to have some insight. Attention to my thoughts was diminishing. I discovered intuitively what is meditation: the art of clearing your head of everything and discover your own deepest thoughts. Along with that I was struck by the idea that to achieve what I had that day I would need 3 lives meditating 24/7.

I have the sensation I discovered some most important thighs about the world and myself however I can't by no means remember them. What I've told you here is just a microscopic part of what I experienced. I'm sorry I can't explain it better, English is my second language and even in my mother language I can't described things like I wished.

I believe the psychedelic experience hasn't got value by itself but it's what the individual takes from it that matters. Although that's a difficult job. One tip I can give you is to don't try to apply insights directly to your everyday life. What you learn in these altered states of conciousness is best applied to your beliefs, fears and motivations. For instance, from this trip I got to know better what death is and decided I don't want to rush my entrance into that state of void.


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Re: dpt trip report.

  • body weight & gender : 160lb, male
  • dose taken: 100mg
  • route of administration: intranasally
  • Setting: living room setting, 3 people total
  • duration of main effects: ~2 hours
  • main effects: my friend's tried 40mg intranasally, 200mg orally, and this time 100mg intranasally. 40mg is managable, "++ trip" on shulgin's scale. 200mg orally isn't very different from that. his first two trips were nothing like this one. this one gets a bit embarassing. he can't really give you a description of what happened, and he can't really remember it all but he knows it was terrifying. he thought he was going to die. but during this trip not much makes sense, it's very hard to put things together. when the effects started to wear off he found that he had practically trashed the entire place, threw things all over the place, and he was ass naked. he had been shouting and banging on the door and yelling for his mommy. his ramblings went on in loops. there were several hallucinatory effects. audio became very distorted with voices becoming very deep and the pitch varying. visual distortions were also present. however, to summarize all of this, dpt is terrifying. he says he can't imagine anyone having a good trip from a substance like this as nothing seems to make sense anymore. the only advice he can recommend is be careful and know what you're getting yourself in to. it's quite embarassing to start coming in to reality in realizing you're completely naked in front of your friends.


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Re: dpt trip report.

Someone described a DPT experience. 100 mg, nasal, 90 minutes until the visuals were pretty much all that was left, unsure as to when a full return to baseline occurred:

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I don't think my setting was right for this trip. The DPT just came in the mail, and my mom intercepted it before giving it to me. She was pissed, and I didn't like that; I felt bad. She thinks the drugs are fucking up my life (or that I am letting them), and I can't hold it against her because her own actions as well as those of my father lend some credence to the theory. I got three D's last semester, so I couldn't really argue with her when she said I was doing "shitty" in school. All I could tell her was that I'll do better next semester, and not just because she wants me to. "I want to do well too, whether you believe me or not." Also I had a wisdom tooth that's been bothering me, and would be removed the following day.

I was nervous prior to ingesting the DPT. In fact, I took it out at 9:00 but didn't wind up taking it until half an hour later because of this pre-journey anxiety. I was naive in thinking that it would be a manageable experience, one in which I would be able to sit back and blissfully be overtaken by music. I was overtaken by something, alright.


I dumped 500 mg of DPT onto a piece of paper and split it into rough quarters. I insufflated about 4/5 of the quarter, so I believe my dose was most likely no less than 80 mg and no higher than 120 **a scale was purchased after the experience and the remainder of the bag was weighed, confirming this dose was 100mg**. It stung a little but not that bad, and the drip wasn’t much either. The itchiness in my throat was annoying though. I laid in my bed, waiting for the DPT to take effect. Before I noticed any visuals, I felt some tension in my forearms, and recognized it as the first sign that the trip was starting. The visuals began, at first manifesting themselves as very subtle 'breathing', and then becoming more apparently vibrations, with everything oscillating at a very rapid rate. The vibrations eventually grew into colorful fractal explosions, a liquid, swirling world as if all of existence were an oil painting that someone had thrown water on, my limbs flattened and elongated like that girl ‘melting’ into the couch from the anti-marijuana commercial.


There was an unpleasant body load that in my opinion significantly contributed to the dysphoric experience. It was similar to that of other tryptamines, only inverted. I usually like the mushroom body high (this experience was very reminescent to me of those induced by magic mushrooms. in fact i cant really give you a single difference but that might just be because i'm not terribly familiar with either). But normally I derive much pleasure from writhing, twisting, and flexing. There was no relief from this though. Just a distracting, uncomfortable tension. I felt hot and sweaty. My entire body was trembling and it felt like breathing was difficult but I've no idea whether it actually was. I was shaking very intensely, shuddering, heart beating mega fucking fast.

I could recognize Mono's music as the experience took over. By the time this happened, the peak had passed. It was during this time I was treated to a smorgasboard of mind blowing closed and open eyed visuals. They are beyond description. I am sorry. My mood seemed to fluctuate with the music. At one point I decided it was too dark and got up to change it. So I put on a song by Caspa that has some very bizarre, carnival-esque melodies. It gave the experience a very odd, creepy-fun-house feeling. I'm pretty sure I wasn't hearing the actual lyrics, just gibberish. It was almost as if I was being mocked…hey, look what you did, your world has been turned upside down..blibby blibby tibby tosh..and then I began to wonder whether I was hearing any music at all, if I wasn't just imagining it, whether any time had passed at all, whether I was trapped in a moment. Eventually I saw that nearly half an hour had passed and thought to myself that the worst was over.

if my ego died, i dont remember it. but i do remember feeling myself splitting. your guess as to what that feels like is as good as mine, still.

i think i have some emotional issues to work out. i was very much aware of the fact that i am alone during the trip, that I have had the luxury of a lover. i began to understand the implications of that in a metaphysical sense, as opposed to the biological, psychological, and evolutionary ones I am already fairly well versed in. I needed someone to share this experience with. some guilt issues as well, somehow i am simultaneously worried about offending some ultimate authority and troubled by my belief that there is none. Once I worked up the courage to leave my room, I wandered to the kitchen to get some water. Constantly getting confused, and worried that I wouldn’t be able to make it back to my room. I almost laid down in the hallway but decided that probably wasn’t a good idea. I called for my mother a couple of times, I just wanted to see another person, to communicate with someone and tell them that I was having a bad trip.

i hate not being to able to tell you all what it was like! it was like the tao, being torn in two opposite directions, it was as if i was being taunted with the meaning of life, and understood first hand that it is by definition incomprehensible (the tao that can be named is not the eternal tao), but it was fucking frustrating! everything swirling, melting together. thoughts as well as images. the trip was not dysphoric because of paranoia, the entire experience was just plagued by a general feeling of malaise, of being unwell. everything, so intense. every breath a strange new experience, as though it were my first and my last. psychedelics show you what its like to live with the utmost passion, to devote every atom of your being to even the most mundane task. its a scary feeling. confusion. no idea whats going on.

I decided to take a shower. Very strange. helpful though, reassuring in a way.

at one point i decided to step outside. suddenly the trip changed, from me worry about internal threats, to external ones. it was dark--especially out in the country where theres not a street light for god only knows how far. i told my cats that i was tripping. i heard menacing sounds and the unfettered expanse that lay before me was intimidating. i retreated to the confines of my home.

forms twisting and writhing



i wonder how significant the physiological aspects of the DPT experience (im thinking of the rapid heart rate here) are when it comes to the tone of the experience...since emotions are inextricably bound to their physiological counterparts. may explain some of the anxiety.


this experience really makes you realize how fragile our perceptions really are.

the trip wasnt just scary, it was down right unpleasant. i had to admit to myself that i wanted it to stop and wished i hadnt done it.

Shortly after coming down I described the tao to a friend of mine:

the fuckin tao man!

the intangible unknowable paradoxical meaning of everything!

in front of me and behind me

here there everywhere and nowhere

I don’t regret it. I regretted it during the experience. Wished I hadn’t done it. I will do it again, but I’m afraid. Afraid I won’t enjoy it. Afraid I’ll burn myself out on psychedelics altogether. Afraid of going over the edge and not coming back. The thought of spending an eternity in that state terrifies me, and as someone who takes pride in their intellect, being in a state of perpetual confusion is not something I enjoy.
I felt like I was on the brink of death. Not physical death, I was fairly confident that I would not die, die. Although I’d be lying if I said the thought never crossed my mind. It’s just, what I was experiencing was just so…impossible. How am I to articulate the feeling of the impossible?

I am not done with this chemical.


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Re: dpt trip report.

Another report from someone else's unpublished research...
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Gender: Male
Weight: 145 lbs
Age: 21
Dose: 100mg (t+0:00) + 75mg (t+0:10)
Route: Oral

Previous experience: Various research phenethylamines (2C-C, 2C-I, 2C-B(2), 2C-E, 2C-T-2, 2C-T-7, TMA-2) and tryptamines (5-MeO-MiPT, 5-MeO-DiPT, 4-AcO-DMT) within a small range of med-high doses have given this subject ample context for evaluating novel substances, though as always, his impressions are unique to his psychology, physiology, neurochemistry and setting. This is the subject's first experience with DPT.

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0:00- 100mg ingested orally in a gelatin capsule. Last meal eaten approximately 3 hours prior to ingestion, consisting primarily of carbohydrates.

0:08- Some stomach alerts, mostly just the presence of a foreign molecule- no nausea to speak of. Somewhat spacey mind-set; possibly (likely) anticipatory placebo.

0:10- Additional 75mg ingested orally in a gelatin capsule.

0:21- Stomach attention has subsided. Some cognitive and visual gazing occur. Generally (though indescribably) 'altered'. Experience and sensations appear novel.

0:40- Pitch-shifting auditory distortions occur, non-selective to type or source of sound. Minor visual tinting- sepia.

A great disparity becomes apparent between sensory and somatic information. Physically, movements feel sluggish and inhibited, in a romantic moon-walk fashion, though visually all movement appears visually enhanced/sped-up.

0:50- Abrupt nausea becomes central and apparent. Several consecutive expulsions ensue, followed by brief dysphoria and disorientation, after which the nausea subsides.

2:05- ~0.250g Cannabis var. Indica consumed via cigarette. Some phasing of awareness occurs, and moments defined by complete lack of physical/spatial/temporal awareness are present. Visual enhancement and light/color bleeding are apparent to the utmost degree; small, artificially illuminated objects consume the entire field of vision.

2:40- Significant emotional activation- positive-critical self analysis is spontaneous. Great cognitive depth with this molecule in terms of enhancement of situational analysis and relationship investigation.

In non-illuminated settings, the visual field appears highly-focused, by framing (edges of visual field appear somewhat blurred, dampened, or otherwise vague/poorly-defined) and a selective change in depth-perception (middle of visual field appears sunken or depressed as in a trampoline).

3:10- Well defined +++

Absolutely enhanced auditory perception concerning both sensitivity (minute echoes seem powerful and wailing) and selectivity (in listening to music, particularly- the ability to fractionate instruments/sources of sound).

3:35- Some decline in effects is noted- CEVs present though basic OEV activity is non-existent. Auditory distortions persist. Emotional/cognitive awareness remains heightened, though more malleable (less spontaneous).

4:20- Effects nearly completely absent, following a long and slow decline- no sudden changes. Getting tired, but a general psychedelic curiosity remains piqued. Reading is rewarding and reveals and enhanced visual imagination, particularly in moments of ‘cognitive-gazing’ between chapters, paragraphs, or occasional words.

4:40- Sleep is welcomed and persists for 9 hours. No residual effects remain the following day. Good mood.

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Figure 1. The effects of 175mg DPT over time. Blue = Summed primary effects, Red = Summed side effects.

Commentary:
From a novel, first-exposure perspective, DPT appears as an archetypal psychedelic. All of the hallmarks of the psychedelic experience are present, from emotional activation and cognitive expansion to visual and auditory distortions. The familiar physical sensations of previously explored trypatmines (DMT, 4-PO/HO-DMT, 4-AcO-DMT), including occasional sweats and chills at peak moments, brief, passing nausea, and some pleasant muscular relaxation, are also apparent.

The duration may be much to the user’s delight or chagrin, depending upon their purposes and constraints. For the purposes of casual, personal recreation, the duration suits well, particularly for those without 6-8 (or 14-20) hours to spare. Additionally, an obvious therapeutic advantage is carried by this duration, as its brevity allows for a reasonable clinical timeframe. The duration also likely reduces ‘bad-trip’ anxiety/fear, as 3-4hrs of activity is a perceivably more bearable notion than 6, 8, 10 or 20.

Aside from dose and duration, this compound could likely be used to access familiar tryptamine-induced psychedelic states of any kind. From this experience alone, it appears there is little if any tryptamine-associated psychedelic quality which this compound cannot achieve- save perhaps for a markedly aroused sense of humor (present with 4-PO/HO-DMT, as well as 4-AcO-DMT and LSD) and unwelcome moments of disorientation/confusion (present in particular with 4-PO/HO-DMT and LSD), two negligible or crucial characteristics, again depending upon your purposes and constraints.


Reputation Comments on this post:
  
  Lovely report, thanks. Does the chart reflect a different trial, or is the 150mg a mistake?
  
  Another excellent report by Shampoo, always adding new ideas on the commentary. The graphic of effects over time makes i...
  
  Nice report on oral ingestion, thanks

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