How to Lower the Nausea from Hawaiian Baby Woodrose

[Praxis]

What are some steps that SWIM could take to make the nausea from HBWR seeds?

so far I have this:

1. remove the hairy outside layer

2. Remove the brownish layer to reveal the yellowish layer.

3. Consume 1 - 3 teaspoons of pure ground up Ginger (does this really work?) at the time of consumption of the seeds.

4. eat GingerSnapp cookies

5. Smoke Pot

Would chewing the seeds straight up or grinding them up and putting them in with food / drink work better to relieve nausea or make it less intense? Extractions is out of the question right about now.


SWIM purchased 1000 HBWR seeds a while back and hase been meaning to trip off them and would really like some good advice.

SWIM says thanks in advance for the help.

[robin_himself]

Swiy should extract it... Cause there really isn't a perfect way else to get rid of the nassea.
A simple way is just to peal of the skin and then put them in water with some lemon juice for a good several hours... shake it a few times... and then drink the liquid (the material that is left can still be eaten but that's your choice... but for naseau its better to not eat it).

If you looked in the chemistry section you'll find alot good advise on how to extract it properly (swim just mentioned the very simple way)

[Praxis]

this simple way of extract...could SWIM use this for the same effects as chewing? For instance would using hat extract method with 7 seeds be the same as straight up chewing 7 seeds?

[robin_himself]

It would work better.... Don't get me wrong the same amount of alkaloids are still there... but swiy would greatly increase the absorbing speed of them. It will kill most of the side effects, although Lsa is known (and trough swim's experience) to have lots of side effects and isn't always that nice.

[Praxis]

i see. SWIM thanks you very much for your great info.

[Praxis]

SWIM would like to know if grinding them with this method would be more effective than just putting the whole seeds in with the juice.

[robin_himself]

100 % sure grinding is better! A rule in chemistry is that when something is divided in small pieces the molecules bang into each other more often and so create more effective collisians. So it would work better and faster.

[Praxis]

SWIM thought so...


on a different not...what info can you provide on it alleged (sp?) inducing anxiety ?


once again SWIM thanks you!

[robin_himself]

one problem is that it can cause lots of naussea... pain in the limbs... it has a very very long come up (swim experienced come up by chewing of over 3 to 4 hours) and above all the experience can be very confusing cause the body load is high and one feels moderatly/very intoxicated. All these factors can lead to lots of anxiety. Its a difficult experience that Lsa... not alot of people really enjoy it.

[Praxis]

but it is something that can easily be controlled with calm music, constant reminder of surroundings, reminder thatthe effects are temporary and are drug induced, confortable location, familiar location, etc right?

[Praxis]

SWIM says that if its like 2C - E, then he will definately enjoy .

[trip.more]

I use ether dramamine or pepto and it always seems to help a little

[Praxis]

how much lemon and water?

[robin_himself]

swim always uses a lil bottle full of water.... half a liter (but one can use less) and just lots of lemon.... its not a fixed thing..... but don't go easy on the lemon...

[Praxis]

like If SWIM were to use ahbout 8 ounces of water, should he use 8 ounces lemon juice?

[robin_himself]

oh no..... a lot less lemon juice will work just as fine. Just squeeze 2 or 3 lemons into a bottle of 0,5 Liter water.... that'll do sweet. Drinking so much lemon juice will probably turn your stomach around (8 ounces). Remember to let it sit a good while and shake every couple of hours!

Reputation Comments on this post:

Great info!

[Praxis]

well SWIM doesnt have any lemons...just lemon juice in a bottle.

[robin_himself]

will work just as fine

[Bajeda]

Do people really have that much trouble with nausea? Swim tried it a couple of times, making sure to scrape off the outside layer before hand, and had no trouble at all. Not even close to the nausea boomers give.

[psyche]

Being absolute psychedelic novise I'd say the body load didn't bother me, but I haven't had an experience withouth it. I enjoy the body load actually. The pain in limbs has been a problem couple of times using doses between 200 and 300 MG seeds.

[Bajeda]

Swim did some checking and found that in addition to scraping off the outside, if you take drammamine 30 minutes to 1 hour before taking the H.B. Woodrose nausea can be reduced effectively. Swim has not tried this though, but it looks like it might help.

Swim also thinks that the lemon juice mixture is a good idea, and will try that next time.

[Praxis]

you said you use half a liter and to not use 8 ounces cause that would be too much, yet half a liter is 16 ounces...

[psyche]

SWIM hasn't really had much difference in nausea whether he extracted LSA in water or ate them. Propably alcohol extraction would get rid of more nasty alkaloids? Couple of times SWIM got really sick for mixing with tobacco, which doesn't seem a good idea since it further constricts blood vessels in extremities. But never he has been able to puke on LSA, he feels very ill and is sweating cold sweat but puke won't come no matter what he does. Any of SWIYs had problems puking?

[Kid A]

Can the LSA (or whatever exactly makes you trip), be stored in a bottle after it has been extracted by the water and lemon juice? For how Long?

[PsychicTraveler]

Yes, it can be stored in the fridge for a couple of months, but...

It seems to settle out to the bottom of the bottle.

The story goes like this:

You take several mediocre doses from the bottle, and you get used to the medium/weak potency. When the bottle is about empty, you decide to clean it out to get the last hits out of it. You end up collecting concentrated elements of the solution, take much more than you could ever have asked for, and send yourself and/or friends spiraling into the outer reaches of human consciousnes for about 3 hours.

So, if SWIY's going to mix up a dose and save it in the fridge, tell him to mix as much as is planned to be consumed at the next dosing. Also, shake the heck out of it for at least 15 minutes to get it all mixed back up.