Dont Worry Be happy

[Praxis]

HEY! this is my first psot here so tell me if im doing it correctly.



SWIM feels euphoric and very peaceful the day after SWIM uses marijuana after a long break from not using it. SWIM likes to use marijuana before bed. SWIM me was told there were no day after effects of marijuana so SWIM is a bit worried. SWIM wants to know if this is normal or not.

[blue_eyes]

What's normal, Praxis, is for each individual to have their own reaction to drugs. Everyone has different sensitivities, tolerances and condition of health. This means that you can't give an exact description of the effects/side effects of any substance on ALL people. That's why there are a wide range of things that COULD happen, as not everyone experiences all of the effects of a drug. The variables are too wide.

So, swim should draw on his own experiences of using drugs, and understand how they affects him, as an individual. It is always useful to keep in mind the general trend of what can be expected, by listening to others' experiences, but never rely on that information as the sole determining factor of how the drug will affect YOU (swiy, that is).

[Praxis]

SWIM wants to know if, in worst case scenario, this could possibly be a schizo reaction to the marijuana. SWIM doesnt have and mental problems like being schizo, not that SWIM knows of, nor do they run in SWIM's family.

[The Doors]

Originally Posted by Praxis

SWIM wants to know if, in worst case scenario, this could possibly be a schizo reaction to the marijuana. SWIM doesnt have and mental problems like being schizo, not that SWIM knows of, nor do they run in SWIM's family.

How is SWIM in his daily routine? Is he depressed, on any meds, happy, stressed, ect...?

[blue_eyes]

Originally Posted by Praxis

SWIM wants to know if, in worst case scenario, this could possibly be a schizo reaction to the marijuana. SWIM doesnt have and mental problems like being schizo, not that SWIM knows of, nor do they run in SWIM's family.

This is what I was posting the information for....

Praxis questioned any links between his experience and the possiblity of mental health issues being involved.

[blue_eyes]

It has been documented that marijuana use can trigger mental health issues.

Here is an exerpt from a report on this very subject:

There is evidence that large doses of THC can produce an acute psychosis marked by confusion, amnesia, delusions, hallucinations, anxiety, and agitation. Such reactions are rare and occur usually after heavy cannabis use, or in some instances, after acute cannabis use by sensitive/vulnerable individuals. These effects abate rapidly after discontinuing cannabis use. There is little evidence that cannabis alone produces a psychosis that persists after the period of intoxication

See this link for more information: http://www.drugscope.org.uk/druginfo...abishealth.htm

My advice is "MODERATION IN ALL THINGS"

[The Doors]

Originally Posted by blue_eyes

It has been documented that marijuana use can trigger mental health issues.

Here is an exerpt from a report on this very subject:

There is evidence that large doses of THC can produce an acute psychosis marked by confusion, amnesia, delusions, hallucinations, anxiety, and agitation. Such reactions are rare and occur usually after heavy cannabis use, or in some instances, after acute cannabis use by sensitive/vulnerable individuals. These effects abate rapidly after discontinuing cannabis use. There is little evidence that cannabis alone produces a psychosis that persists after the period of intoxication

See this link for more information: http://www.drugscope.org.uk/druginfo...abishealth.htm

My advice is "MODERATION IN ALL THINGS"

SWIPraxis didn't say anything about the following "symptoms" in his post. He said he felt euphoric and peaceful, whis is a good thing, no? Depending on the level and how long the effects act.

[Alicia]

The problem with weed most people find when they get paranoid it grows and can spiral out of control, but providing you remember you took something and your in the right set and setting you should be ok. Also the mental health thing if you know anyone in your immediate family that has or suffers from any mental illness be very careful. If you still carry on regardless smoke small amounts first and et accustomed to it.

Ok first thing, Cannabis can induce psychosis in people that already have the underlying illness which is dormant or in the early stages. or by excessive use can be caused the latter tends to only last until it remains in the system.

blue_eyes said -
What's normal, Praxis, is for each individual to have their own reaction to drugs. Everyone has different sensitivities, tolerances and condition of health. This means that you can't give an exact description of the effects/side effects of any substance on ALL people. That's why there are a wide range of things that COULD happen, as not everyone experiences all of the effects of a drug. The variables are too wide.
So, swim should draw on his own experiences of using drugs, and understand how they affects him, as an individual. It is always useful to keep in mind the general trend of what can be expected, by listening to others' experiences, but never rely on that information as the sole determining factor of how the drug will affect YOU (swiy, that is)

There are still the main effects everyone gets when there stoned.yes everyone will react differently to any given substance.

drugscope tend to be slightly biased, informative but ok

[radiometer]

Lots of people report feeling sluggish on the day after smoking marijuana - it's not unusual to hear of day-after effects. SWIY's reaction sounds a bit unusual, but not surprising. Anyway, it sounds like a positive effect the way you describe it, so I'd say just be happy with it!

[Praxis]

SWIM had a panic attack one time when SWIM was high with a high dose of marijuana. SWIM felt like a robot and that life was a dream. Does this mean SWIM has an underlying mental condition?

[podge]

Originally Posted by Praxis

SWIM had a panic attack one time when SWIM was high with a high dose of marijuana. SWIM felt like a robot and that life was a dream. Does this mean SWIM has an underlying mental condition?

no man.....swiy just got higly stoned.nothing to worry about.underlying mental conditions brought on by marijuana are very rare.your just new to cannabis....it takes a while smoking to really know what cannabis is all about,how it affects swiy,what situations swiy would or would not like to be stoned in,how much swiy needs to reach a comfortable high etc.its responsible of you to be worried about mental illness but cannabis is about relaxing and not worrying about things so use it for such reasons.

[Alicia]

Only if that symptom is still persisting when you are sober. if it was just a run off odds are you were just high. that can happen those sort panic reactions. depends on your set and setting..eat something sweet if that happens again, and try and relax it will pass.supportive environment helps loads in those situations

[Praxis]

SWIM freaked out like i said before and felt weird for a few weeks after but eventually got steadily better, but not totally yet. Is this permanent?

[blue_eyes]

As I posted before Praxis, I don't think you have alot to worry about, without having a history of mental illness in your family, or in your own experience. You should be fine with discontinued, or very limited use.

From my post above: These effects abate rapidly after discontinuing cannabis use. There is little evidence that cannabis alone produces a psychosis that persists after the period of intoxication

That means that when you stop, it goes away, providing you don't have an existing mental illness, or predisposition to mental illness, which you say you don't. Chill out man.... you should be fine

[Praxis]

what would you say is very limited use? at SWIM's peak of using I did everyday for about a week then SWIM had the panic. that was about 4 weeks agoish.

[Praxis]

SWIM is also a kinda moody guy. SWIM gets depressed easily about social things. With this post panic attack from high dose of marijuana, SWIM randomly gets stressed about things, gets fristrated with the feeling of the derealization and wants to hit things, but that doesnt happen too often, even tho the derealization was been continueing for a few weeks.

[blue_eyes]

I would say that the threshold dose for swiy to have negative effects is less than what he has smoked to date. I would suggest cutting back to social occassions, not daily, and when swiy does smoke it, only indulge 1 night at a time, with several weeks between sessions.

See how he goes with that, and if he tolerates that dose without the said effects you described above, then maybe up the amount a little. But decrease it again at the first sign of any of the symptoms you mentioned before. Drugs are NO FUN if they ruin your life when you are straight (which should be much more often than when you are high). Hence, it is so important to enjoy life whilst straight!!!! Drugs should enhance that, not make it worse. Otherwise, the substance you are using isn't worth it!

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'enjoying life sober' awww blesss

[Alicia]

preach "drugs should enhance your life not destroy it." lol and who says theres a rule for being high all the time. people do smoke weed all the time they still function and work.. I know u mean well thou. sweet nice touch.

Praxis be aware if there is anything on your mind when u smoke it will amplify or play on your mind.reading into mental illness when worried will only make the problem worse just flow with it.

else if not swia will have to feed you to her evil paranoid pot smoking eating dog noodles.. or you could just not smoke...

[blue_eyes]

Originally Posted by Alicia

preach "drugs should enhance your life not destroy it." lol and who says theres a rule for being high all the time. people do smoke weed all the time they still function and work.. I know u mean well thou. sweet nice touch.

I'm sure people who do smoke pot all the time, and still function at work and stuff, are for sure functioning at a reduced capacity!

Sure, they might be able to keep it all going, but they would, no doubt in my mind, do a BETTER job if they weren't stoned all the time!

I highly doubt you would be able to substantiate a statement to the contrary. No offence intended

[Alicia]

Originally Posted by blue_eyes

I'm sure people who do smoke pot all the time, and still function at work and stuff, are for sure functioning at a reduced capacity!

Can you speak for everyone? No well there u go.. not to mention there are various different strains that dont make everyone go brain melt.

Originally Posted by blue_eyes

I highly doubt you would be able to substantiate a statement to the contrary. No offence intended

Offence? where? i can come off as obnoxious sometimes

perhaps not we are all entitled to our opinions, however it also depends on the line of work. if it using heavy lifting vehicles , or driving to work then no that would be bad. but for creativity and graphic designers where there are no dangers to other people. another bad example imagine a stoned neurosurgeon working.. lol

Depends on the JOB..
very off topic now lol

[blue_eyes]

Originally Posted by Alicia

but for creativity and graphic designers where there are no dangers to other people.
Depends on the JOB..
very off topic now lol

Yes, I have to agree with this point that you made
(That's the last thing I will say about this, seeing as its off topic)

I guess we both have valid points that can be applied to varying situations. I can respect your opinion, although I don't agree fully with it. I hope you are able to do the same with my views on this subject.

See you around the forum.... Its always refreshing to have my perspectives and ideas tested and expanded through conversations such as this one

[radiometer]

How did this go from "feeling euphoric and very peaceful" to panic attacks? I missed the transition point.

[Praxis]

dude SWIm think that several weeks is a long ass time. SWIM might have to sell off the half ounce he got for he summer, cause SWIM sure as hell aint gonna smoke it all now with this panic situation. maybe SWIM could just go back to using every 3 days to a week?

[Nagognog2]

Praxis:

You had a not-to-uncommon panic and/or anxiety attack that, by your own diagnosis, was linked to smoking pot. This happens to some people from pot. They wisely tend to choose to not smoke it again.

After this horrible experience you state: "maybe SWIM could just go back to using every 3 days to a week?" The answer is you COULD. But WOULD you after this? Only you know. I know this though: If you do smoke it again and have a similar negative reaction, the only person you should complain to is the one in the mirror.

[Praxis]

you said they wisely choose to not smoke it again, is this because they dont want to risk ahving another panic attack?