Iran: Legal Status of Ketamine & opium

[arman]

hey guys,

I don't think there is much iranian people in this forum (maybe im the only one) but I want to tell you about legal situation of ketamine in Iran.

Ketamine use is not illegal in Iran, although there is some moves toward laws against ketamine. But injection bottles of 100mg/ml ketamine is easily available in vet pharmacies in Tehran, just a few questions asked.

Actually ketamine is a very unknown drug in iran and I bet if you ask 300 people about ketamine only one person knows that it is a drug. Ketamine use is increased in the last few years but still the main drug used in iran is opium-related drugs like heroin which is actually very cheap (about X$ for 3 injected use).

So, I don't think ketamine to become popular any time soon.

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if there is anyone from iran please send private message to me.

[Powder_Reality]

When SWIY says that ketamine use is not illegal, does SWIY mean that humans can legally use ketamine to get high? Or does SWIY mean that the sale of ketamine does not require a prescription, but can only be used for it's intended purpose and any other use is strictly prohibited? Like how nitrous oxide is un-scheduled, but in many areas is illegal to consume for recreational purposes.

[VincentVan]

Dear Arman
I found your post quite intriguing , specially when you say that in Iran the most widely used drugs are opiates.
I thought that the laws of the Islamic Republic would be inflexible with poor junkies; and what´s more common on the iranian market, opium or heroin?
Is the Sharia applied in these matters too?
I also wander: What kind of iranians are attracted to opiates? Young Theran´s urbanites or middle aged farmers and country dwellers?
You say that heroin is very cheap, but it is also widely available and easily found or it´s a risky business for few initiates?
And finally what is the Iranian people´s attitude towards users? Are they necessarily emarginates or ,like in India and Pakistan, their vice , while not openly discussed, is often accepted in some sectors of society?
I would have many more questions , but for the moment these are more than enough. I hope you don´t think I´m too curious.
Oh , by the way, I´m not a western spy.
VV.

"...Dust into Dust, and under Dust , to lie,
Sans Wine, sans Song, sans Singer,
and- sans End!"
(Omar Khayyam.- "The Rubaiyat")

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Interesting questions

[arman]

Originally Posted by VincentVan

I thought that the laws of the Islamic Republic would be inflexible with poor junkies; and what´s more common on the iranian market, opium or heroin?

Of course, heroin.

Originally Posted by VincentVan

Is the Sharia applied in these matters too?

I really don't know. Don't ask me religious questions cause I really can't remember anything.

Originally Posted by VincentVan

I also wander: What kind of iranians are attracted to opiates? Young Theran´s urbanites or middle aged farmers and country dwellers?

middle aged farmers use opium, young Tehran´s urbanites use heroin.

Originally Posted by VincentVan

You say that heroin is very cheap, but it is also widely available and easily found or it´s a risky business for few initiates?

Althought the laws are restricted and the punishments are very hard, due to number of users and dealers it is virtually impossible for government to apply them. (e.g prisons becomes full of junkies)

Im happy to see that you know Omar Khayyam.

[Alfa]

Iran has the highest proportion of heroin addicts in the world and a growing Aids problem. Cheap opium and increasingly refined heroin flood over the border from Afghanistan. 3.5 million Iranians are addicted to heroin/opium. Thats 5.8% of the population. In 2002 this was 2 million. So in 4 years this has almost doubled.

Here's some info from 2002:

Iran's battle with heroin


Javad and his friends are among an officially estimated two million Iranians now taking drugs, giving the country one of the highest addiction rates in the world. As his wife and some of his seven children look on with a mixture of contempt and amusement, he and two fellow addicts crouch in a sordid, grimy room and "chase the dragon" - junkie jargon for inhaling the fumes from heroin heated over foil.

I took refuge in drugs, hoping they would calm me down and make things better but I'm even more miserable now," he says, slurring his words.

"I use heroin. This is my life..."
Javad has gone looking for jobs but says they always turn him down.
His wife Maryam has had enough. She interrupts with a torrent of vituperation.
"Miserable people like us should just die at home from hunger or thirst," she says.
"I'm too embarrassed to ask anyone for help any more. Everyone is using drugs. The government should put a stop to it."
Border war on drugs
The Iranian Government is increasingly enlisting the support of non-government organisations (NGOs) to combat demand for narcotics. It is partly a problem of availability.

Iran straddles a major smuggling route to the West from neighbouring Afghanistan, the world's largest producer of opium and its derivatives, morphine and heroin.

So drugs are plentiful here, and cost a lot less than replacement therapy.
Iran's long and mountainous eastern border with Afghanistan and Pakistan is virtually impossible to seal.
More than 3,200 members of the Iranian security forces have died in clashes with drug traffickers and every year, tons of narcotics are seized but optimistic estimates are that only about 30% of the inflow may be being intercepted.
Cutting demand
"Even if we built a steel wall all around the country, drugs would find a way in, as long as there's a demand for them," admits General Mohammad Fallah, head of Iran's Drug Control Headquarters (DCHQ). The new emphasis on trying to curb demand, while keeping up the struggle to halt the supply.


"In our new budget, about 50% is allocated for demand reduction activities," says Mejid Derakhshan, head of the DCHQ's cultural section.
The DCHQ has sponsored a series of hard-hitting TV advertisements and is waging an information campaign in schools and universities.
It is also setting up a special new department to co-ordinate with the NGOs.

Refuge
One NGO, the Anti-Addiction Association, was set up by a woman MP, Soheila Jelodarzadeh, who compares the problem to cancer. "Addiction is much more dangerous than cancer, because it spreads exponentially," she says.

To sustain his habit, an addict has to sell drugs to at least 10 other people."

The Association, and other NGOs such as Narcotics Anonymous and the Aftab (Sunshine) Society, provide a humane and enlightened refuge for addicts who want to try to shed their habit.
"Here, they treat you with respect, not like some sort of criminal," says Saeed, who was a serious addict for 12 years until he went to the association.

Hossein Dejakam, the former addict who set up the Aftab Society, believes a lack of professional expertise is one of the factors inhibiting the struggle to stem the spread of abuse.
"We don't have a single expert on addiction," he says.

Positive trend
Drug control authorities are alarmed that in addition to the traditional poppy-based narcotics from Afghanistan, synthetic drugs are also starting to appear on the Iranian scene from other sources.
But supply and availability also have an impact in creating demand, says Antonio Mazzitelli, Iran representative of the UN's Drug Control Programme (UNDCP).

Iran had been bracing for a renewed flood of narcotics, because poppy cultivation resumed in Afghanistan this spring.
Ironically, in this respect Iran was better off with the Taleban as neighbours, because they imposed a successful ban on cultivation last year.
But the expected new influx has not yet happened - perhaps because the narcotics are being refined and sent to the West via more northerly routes which bypass Iran.

The UNDCP's Antonio Mazzitelli is cautiously optimistic that if the supply situation remains restricted and efforts to curb demand are redoubled, Iran's drug crisis could start to turn around.
"If this supply trend continues at least one or two more years, we will start to record a dramatic reduction in drug abuse and in new drug abusers in Iran," he says.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/2031624.stm

This is from 2000:

In Iran, a junkie's fix is cheaper than a bottle of milk

TEHRAN, Iran, December 3, 2000(AFP) - It's cheaper for a heroin junkie in Iran to shoot up than it is to buy a bottle of milk.
That is the lament of Behrouz Meshkini, vice president of an organization that treats addicts and runs public awareness campaigns and who is facing an up-hill battle in Iran, particularly among the young.
Drugs are cheap because Iran is next door to Afghanistan, one of the world's leading producers of opium, from which heroin is derived.
The pervasiveness and cheapness of drugs have provoked a dramatic increase in drug addiction, leaving Iranian authorities to face a problem that affects all layers of society.
There are two million drug addicts in a population of 60 million, and 75 percent of the prison population is in jail for drug abuse or trafficking.
Iran is facing an unprecedented social crisis, with many Iranian sociologists saying widespread drug addiction has become a very common social phenomenon.
Not a day goes by without a drug-related story making the television news headlines. Addiction is now blatant on people's faces, especially in the lower working class.
In the south Tehran quarter of Maulavi, a gramme of heroin goes for as little as 3,000 rials (40 US cents).
Available in all the coutry's major cities, heroin, as well marijuana, opium and chireh -- a brown residue obtained from smoked opium -- are cheaper than milk or bread.
The "cheap drugs" plague is now affecting schools.
"Fifty-five percent of addicts say they started taking drugs between the age of 17 and 22", says Meshkini, vice president of the Organization of Social Well-Being.
In an interview published Saturday in the reformist newspaper Karo-Kargar, Meshkini explains that social difficulties at school and in the family circle are turning more and more youths into junkies.
According to some sociologists, Iran's prohibition on alcohol has driven youths towards drugs. Opium, the most popular drug in Iran, is radically cheaper than a bottle of foreign spirits.
Authorities in Tehran are leading a campaign against drug traffickers, to try to reverse a situation that is devastating the entire Iranian society. In the past eight months, 41,000 people were arrested in the capital alone for drugs offences, but it is clear that the problem of cheap drugs has to be fought at the Afghan border.
In the past few weeks, fighting intensified between the Iranian army and drug traffickers in Iran's two eastern provinces, which border Afghanistan and Pakistan. Iranian soldiers killed 20 drug traffickers and freed two hostages on Friday, during an anti-drug operation near eastern Iran's border with Afghanistan.
Commenting on what has been an escalating round of violence between smugglers and authorities, the government was quoted Saturday as saying 100 people identified as bandits and drug traffickers had been killed in clashes over the past two weeks in eastern Iran.
The Shiite Muslim state of Iran is a major transshipment point for drugs headed to markets in the Gulf, central Asia and Europe. The government regularly blames the Sunni Taliban militia, which now controls most of Afghanistan, for the region's heavy drug trade.
Two weeks ago, Iran's armed forces deployed a battalion of troops near the border with Afghanistan and Pakistan to fight the flow of narcotics into the country. In addition to the mobile battalion, the armed forces commander-in-chief, General Mohammad Salimi announced on Nov 14, that the army will expand its air bases and build other new ones in the country's eastern region. In May, the Iranian parliament approved a bill for an "anti-drug wall" along the 940 kilometer-long (582 miles) border with Afghanistan.
http://www.iran-e-sabz.org/news/drugs2.html

From last year:
AIDS Crisis Brings Radical Change In Iran's Response to Heroin Use

Health Concerns Given Precedence Over Prosecution


By Karl Vick
Washington Post Foreign Service
Tuesday, July 5, 2005; Page A09

TEHRAN -- Fearing an AIDS epidemic, Iran's theocratic government has dropped a zero-tolerance policy against increasingly common heroin use and now offers addicts low-cost needles, methadone and a measure of social acceptance.
For two decades, Iran largely avoided the global AIDS crisis. But today, officials are alarmed by a 25 percent HIV infection rate that one survey has found among hard-core heroin users and worry that addicts may channel the virus into the population of 68 million.

Supporters of the government's new approach laud it as practical and devoid of the wishful thinking and moralism that they contend hampers policies on drug abuse and AIDS in some other countries, including the United States. "I have to pay tribute to Iran on this," said Roberto Arbitrio, head of the U.N. Office on Drugs and Crime in Tehran.
Bijan Nasirimanesh, who heads a drop-in clinic that dispenses needles, bleach and methadone in a hard-hit area of south Tehran, said, "It's ironic that Iran, very fundamentalist, very religious -- very religious -- has been able to convince itself" to embrace such policies.
Opponents often argue that tolerance of life-destroying drugs is simply unacceptable and in the long run breeds acceptance and higher drug use. But in the theocracy's most dramatic rejection of that approach, the ayatollah who heads Iran's conservative judiciary issued an executive order embracing "such needed and fruitful programs" as needle exchanges and methadone maintenance.
Ayatollah Mohammad Esmail Shoshtari, the justice minister who has shut more than 100 newspapers and imprisoned political opponents, instructed prosecutors in a Jan. 24 letter to ignore laws on the books and defer to Iran's Health Ministry to counter the spread of AIDS and hepatitis C.
"This was a very crucial step," said Ali Hashemi, director of Iran's Drug Control Headquarters, a cabinet-level office. "Inevitably we have to do this in order to reduce the risk of AIDS."
The policy demonstrates the complexities of Iran a quarter-century after the Islamic revolution and U.S. Embassy takeover that still defines its theocratic government for many Americans. Though power remains concentrated in unelected clerics who brook little political dissent, the government has demonstrated flexibility on a variety of subjects, including birth control and sex-change operations, which the clerics recently authorized.
After the revolution, Iran treated drug users as criminals, throwing hundreds of thousands of them in jail. Now it has joined the ranks of countries that acknowledge the difficulty of eradicating drug addiction and focus instead on curbing the most immediate dangerous behaviors that go with it.
Surveys of Iranians who test positive for HIV show that two-thirds were infected by dirty needles. To reduce the spread of infections, the government not only makes needles available without a prescription, but through subsidies makes them extremely cheap, so as to discourage re-use.
"You pay less than 5 cents for a syringe," said Azarakhsh Mokri, of the government's National Center for Addiction Studies. "People purchase up to 100 at a time."
The government also encourages addicts to stop injecting by providing free methadone, a surrogate opiate that is taken orally. This spring, the parliament, dominated by conservatives, voted to allow any doctor in Iran to dispense methadone, though under strict monitoring guidelines.

It's quite amazing there's been this shift," said Rich Schottenfeld, a professor of psychiatry at Yale University, which won a waiver from U.S. sanctions on Iran to carry out a study financed by the National Institute of Drug Abuse to compare drug treatments. "Five years ago, my colleagues there didn't anticipate that methadone would even be allowed," he said.
Robert Newman, director of the Baron Edmond de Rothschild Chemical Dependency Institute at Beth Israel Medical Center in New York, said Iranian policies are "in very dramatic contrast to what has been happening with increasing frequency in America, where the judiciary and the criminal justice system in general . . . does not let the patients receive the treatment that the physician says is necessary."

Newman, who has traveled twice to Iran in the last five years to consult on addiction programs, said only a quarter of an estimated 900,000 heroin addicts in the United States receive treatment. He attributes that in large part to laws that restrict methadone to large-scale treatment facilities. "In other words, the AIDS epidemic has done nothing to open the way for treatment with methadone or any other treatment for heroin addiction" in the United States, Newman said.
In Iran, heroin addiction is rising in a population of drug users estimated at between 2 million and 4 million. Heroin use rose abruptly about five years ago, when the Taliban rulers in neighboring Afghanistan sharply reduced opium production. That drove up the price of opium, leading people who had been smoking or swallowing it to switch to heroin, which remained comparatively cheap.
Because heroin is often injected, the switch resulted in a surge of HIV infections as users shared needles.
Until recently, the HIV infection rate among intravenous drug users in Iran had been estimated at 5 percent. But in blood tests of 900 users over eight months, the Persepolis clinic headed by Nasirimanesh found a rate of 25 percent. "The bomb exploded," he said.
Officials said that rate was confirmed by a more recent study conducted through Japan's Kyoto University. A lower rate, about 13 percent, was recorded among users who get their methadone at the addiction studies treatment center. Mokri said that was presumably because the center's clients are typically better off than the often homeless junkies at the Persepolis drop-in center and have avoided time in prisons where dirty needles are far more common.
But the rates in all surveys are headed up. "The potential is very bad," said Arbitrio of the U.N. agency. "If you have 160,000 injecting plus 3 million drug users, you have all the elements to have the spread of HIV/AIDS very quickly."
How quickly the virus might reach into the general population via sexual contact is a sensitive issue in Iran. Experts here do not see transmission though gay sex as an important avenue, but fear HIV will spread in a big way through heterosexual sex.
Though the government has promoted a puritanical view on premarital sex, it has tolerated prostitutes, who by many accounts have risen sharply in numbers in recent years.
"I know some who are drug addicts," said Sorraya Heidari, 39, as she waited for methadone at the Persepolis clinic. "To get the money they need for drugs, they have to work as prostitutes."
There is also evidence that young people -- half of Iran's population is under age 20 -- are more sexually active than some researchers believed. Fully 70 percent of capital residents ages 15 to 20 have had sex outside marriage, and almost none reported using condoms, according to a survey of 2,000 Tehran young people by Tehran University and the State Welfare Organization.
"Before, Iran always said this is something from outside," said Hamid Reza Setayesh, the UNAIDS officer for Iran. "Now they are accepting this is not only for drug users, but growing among people who are sexually active."
Experts say the official reluctance to promote condom use generally is a major drawback in Iran's evolving policy toward AIDS. Another is the lack of anonymous testing for the virus. "They ask for your name," Setayesh said. "And they should not ask."
Public health specialists also caution that many of the new policies have yet to be launched on a large scale. "The policies are very good," said Gelareh Mostashari, a physician in the U.N. drugs office. "But there are practical applications that have to be executed."
Still, many drug experts say the government has shown a consistent disregard for orthodoxies in this fight. Mokri said he was astonished to encounter no official resistance when he set out to launch a pilot program that will dispense actual opium instead of methadone to addicts.
He noted a bill pending in the U.S. Congress calling for imprisoning Americans who failed to report marijuana dealers. "Sometimes I think the ayatollahs are more liberal," Mokri said.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...0401182_2.html

This video is quite recent: http://www.channel4.com/news/special...ge.jsp?id=1918

Liberal drugs policies are usually associated with liberal countries. So it may be surprising that a strict Muslim state such as Iran not only has the world's worst problem of heroin addiction, but is now tackling it with enlightened techniques.

[788.4]

Originally Posted by Alfa

Iran has the highest proportion of heroin addicts in the world and a growing Aids problem. Cheap opium and increasingly refined heroin flood over the border from Afghanistan. 3.5 million Iranians are addicted to heroin/opium. Thats 5.8% of the population. In 2002 this was 2 million. So in 4 years this has almost doubled.

I wonder if this statistic differentiated between between addicts and users.

[VincentVan]

Originally Posted by 788.4

I wonder if this statistic differentiated between between addicts and users.

We are talking about opiates ,more specifically heroin.
The difference between users and addicts of those substances is mostly a matter of semantics. The near totality of users are , have been and/or will be addicts at some point.
Trust me.
VV.

[arman]

Originally Posted by 788.4

I wonder if this statistic differentiated between between addicts and users.

Here is why they don't have to differentiated between between addicts and users,

If you live in pain and misery, after you try an opiate once it becomes part of your life easily, I mean really easily. And of course, I didn't expect a person who lives in one of the rich countries accept this.

I can say there is very little number of heroin users (not addict) in iran. SWIM is one of those few.

[hyperlite]

Originally Posted by arman

Here is why they don't have to differentiated between between addicts and users,

If you live in pain and misery, after you try an opiate once it becomes part of your life easily, I mean really easily. And of course, I didn't expect a person who lives in one of the rich countries accept this.

I can say there is very little number of heroin users (not addict) in iran. SWIM is one of those few.

Interesting.....I don't wish to turn this thread around, but the world could take a lesson from this post. Unfortunately everyone is out to make $$$ at the expense of others......godspeed to you.


-= Back to topic =-

What brand to do you get? I haven't done Ketamine yet and have just a little knowledge about. What brand do you get and what is the best?


Thanks-

[Bajeda]

Also, a large number of the elderly people in Iran use opium. I have a bunch of Iranian friends and while they don't use opiates they know many older people in their family who do.

I'm not sure about heroin though.

[adzket]

what about the ketamine arman is it legal to use to get high or just avalible on perscription for animals or humans as anisthetic? you said you are asked some ? when you go to buy it what sort of? i am suprised they have not looked into useing ketamine to treat the herion addicts i belive they do that in russia aswell as for alcoholics.

[VincentVan]

Dear Arman
once you start using opiates it becomes easily part of your life even if you don´t "live in pain and misery" as you write, I´m not sure that living "in one of the rich countries" makes any difference.
I don´t think there has ever been one single junkie , no matter where he happens to be living, that started to use dope deliberately seeking to become an addict.
I can still remember (and belive me it was many many years ago) when SWIM , one night found out that he could´nt sleep; that he felt strange and he could´nt understand why.
It was only in the morning, after a sleepless night, that it downed on him that these were the symptoms he had heard about so many times , but still he could´nt belive it.
At the time he had been using for about three years and in that period he had stopped taking care to take breaks between a shot and another one, but he still thought of himself as user not an addict.
So he ran out of the apartment where he was living and went to buy some dope to be absolutely sure that this really was the reason of his malaise, and sure enough as soon as he inject it he suddenly felt more than fine again.
SWIM dimly realized that from that moment his life was going to be different, that this moment was going to have an important meaning for him , but he surely did´nt realize how much and in what way exactly; not by a long shot.

So, dear Arman you say that you ´re an user and not an addict; let me guess: is it less than three years ago that you started using?
You probably promised yourself that you will never touch that stuff two days in a row (SWIM did that), but then did you already find yourself in that situation where you think that an exception is not going to change anything? That after all this time now you know how to use this stuff?
Well, SWIM felt the same.
The line between being a user and being used is an extraordinarily thin one when talking of heroin.
SWIM has known many users and the only ones who did´nt become addicts are those who died before.
That stuff changes you before you can realize it´s doing it.
Still SWIM knows that H has been an important factor in shaping his life´s choices, and he likes how his life turned out to be.
Without her he probably would never have seen all the places where he has been living and travelling, surely he would never have met the people that now most matter to him including his wife; his daughter would never have been born, and probably he would never have had the inspiration and the experiences that made it possible for him to become successful in his career.
He would have been a very different person altogether and he can´t know if things would have turned out better or worse for him, but of one thing he is absolutely sure: he would have suffered a lot less.
He can see that you are very young and he hopes that you will not need to go through the same pain as he did; but if you will, he hopes that you too will be able to think that maybe, there was a meaning for it all.

As for Iran , I start to think that it could be a worthy destination for one of my perigrinations.
It should ´nt be too difficult to find an excuse to go there even if now I´m a bit scared to get lost once again.
But I´ll think about it.

Well, since you also like Omar Khayyam, here is one of my favoured verses and one that seems quite appropriated to the mood of our conversation too:

"Strange is it not? That of the myriads who
Before us pass´d the door of Darkness through
Not one returns to tell us of the Road,
Which to discover we must travel too."
(Omar Khayyam.- " The Rubaiyat " )

VV.

[arman]

adzket:

Ketamine is not legal to use for getting high, I mean although there is no law mentioning ketamine particulary but it should be illegal. In vet pharamacy they are going to ask why you need ketamine, which SWIM answered he is a vet student and he needs it for expeimentations.


VincentVan:

Althought heroin is cheap and easily available SWIM used H about once in a month which make him a drug user rather than an addict, but SWIM addicted to Tramadol (painkiller) at some point, he used tramadol for about two weeks every night, but SWIM didn't expect his body to become addicted to this painkiller, but after finishing his last capsules, and not using it for 24 hours he feels symptoms of withdrawal which was really bad. But not used Tramadol again and waits till the withdrawal finished.
SWIM never buy a lot of any stuff cause it is easier for him to lost his way. Although SWIM has Tramadol in his room right now and he is not going for it, cause there is no reason for it.

SWIM wishes someday he and his girlfriend can do H together and I guess thats a way which is easy to get lost.

[adzket]

to vincentvan,
you said that swiy found h had helped
Still SWIM knows that H has been an important factor in shaping his life´s choices, and he likes how his life turned out to be.
Without her he probably would never have seen all the places where he has been living and travelling, surely he would never have met the people that now most matter to him including his wife; his daughter would never have been born, and probably he would never have had the inspiration and the experiences that made it possible for him to become successful in his career

i can understand the people they have meat the places they have been but how has it given them inspiration and exsperiances to be successful in there job? as i no many swims who have found inspiration to start with especialy those in crative industrys but most have then failed because of the addiction and lost there jobs. i meen it is good that swiy has found this but was just wondering how and why maybe you could with swiys help enlighten a few people. also you say swiy may take a visit to iran but are they not realy funnie about letting westoners into the country or am i being lied to?

arman:
i take it from this you did not need a perscription for this. did the pharmasist charge you more money for it (without mentiong prices of course) than what it would of done with a perscription like a bribe? cause thats what they do in india they let you buy what ever you want as long as you buy lots of it and at a inflated price.

[arman]

Originally Posted by adzket

i take it from this you did not need a perscription for this. did the pharmasist charge you more money for it (without mentiong prices of course) than what it would of done with a perscription like a bribe? cause thats what they do in india they let you buy what ever you want as long as you buy lots of it and at a inflated price.

It is actually pretty cheap, so SWIM doesn't think they charge him with any extra-money (as bribe) for selling it without perscription.

[VincentVan]

Dear Adzket
I´m gonna answer to your doubts as soon as I have the time, I hopetonight.
As for getting into Iran all you need is a visa.
I don´t think it should be difficult to get one. I know of people getting in and out of Iran regularly. However I never tried to ask for an iranian visa and I don´t know if I ever will, I always thought it must be a very intresting and charming place, and the more I know about it the more interesting it gets .
Don´t you think?
VV.

[VincentVan]

I tried to come back to this thread and specially to you Adzket, as soon as I could because I` m afraid that you have badly misunderstood what I meant in my post.
I want to be absolutely clear about this: never in my life have I been grateful to heroin for any reason at all. The thing I most regret in my life is to have started to use heroin. I have never heard nor I can imagine that heroin has been a positive influence in the life of anybody, and surely it was´nt in mine, in any sense. I would never suggest to anybody in any situation to start using heroin and one of the things I am most proud of , is that I have never introduced anybody to this horrible vice.
I hope it´s clear enough now.

What I said is that heroin has been a constant presence in my life even in those periods when I was´nt actually using it.
I said that because of heroin, or because I was running away from it , I found myself in the situations that ultimately led me to find my way.
By cunningly exploiting every opportunity like only junkies can do, and surely with a lot of luck too, I managed to turn my unusual situations into a career that brought me also many satisfactions, recognitions, and even some prize. However I do not know what my life could have been like if I had never met with my demon. It could well be that I would have accomplished much more and I´m nearly sure that I would have been a lot happier; or at the very least ,that I would have suffered a lot less.
I don´t know and I will never know ,if I managed to do something in my life because of my vice or ( as it´s probable) in spite of it .
Probably I was just lucky to have had what was necessary to make the best out of a bad situation and now, when I look back, I can only wonder at the weird twist and turns of the roads that finally took me to where I am now.
Anyway,about this place where i finally arrived, I can tell you that It looks comfortable only to the most casual and superficial observer.
I still know that my life obsession is still perfectly capable to take away from me everything I care about , like my family or my mental health, and everything else I would be supposed to care about, like my life, my job or my reputation.
In the last couple of years I have been teaching to youngsters who want to learn my craft.
One of the questions they always ask me is when I realized that this was what I wanted to do.
This is one of the few answers I can give in absolute sincerity: - I realized it when it became obvious that I could never have done anything else-.
I never say it to them but heroin had a lot to do with that.
I never said it to those who shook my hand to congratulate with me for a job they appreciate.
Nor to my collegues, or those who put their trust and their money in the mistaken idea they have of me.
And specially I have never said it to my wife or to my daughter; and most probably I never will.
This is another unique gift of heroin: only heroin, I belive ,can make a person into a living lie.
One of the main reasons why I gave it up, is because you really don´t want to look back at your life and think that you have been a total fraud; even if your fraud ultimately turns out to be successful.
I wish I could give you some more details and some few illuminating aneddocts, but I´m afraid to become too recognizable,I really must take care.
We lifelong con men can´t afford to blow our cover.

"To get used to whatever is a terrible thing"
(Gregory Bateson. -"Steps toward an ecology of the mind" )

[adzket]

no worrys man i get the point know was just wondering how swiy had found a positive in h when so meny swim's have not. but totaly understand

[iranian]

hi arman.
excuse me but it IS illigal in here.
swim asked a vet for ketamine and the man reject swim offer.
please pm me

iranian added 1 Minutes and 38 Seconds later...

I dont know about tehran. but in here (ghaemshahr) you can hardly get your hand on it.

iranian added 1 Minutes and 0 Seconds later...

I dont know about tehran. but in here (ghaemshahr) you can hardly get your hand on it.

[Euthanatos93420]

Might that have something to do with you diging up a 2 & 1/2 year old post? Geez you just did a search for Iran and started posting without lookin' at the date? LOL Don't get me wrong it's great to see newbies intelligent enough to use the FSE right off the bat and I know that the date is an easily overlooked detail....but damn...lol

Though seriously. It'd be VERY interesting to find out when this happened and why.

Might it have something to do with the recent military eyeing of Iran by certain infamous political powers?

[iranian]

yes you are right I have forgot to look at the date. lol!
thats funny!
I was searching with FSE about iran to make some friends in my own country and chat with them.