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Old 27-06-2006, 17:04
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purifying crack

Swim has heard of washing powder with acetone to purify it but will the same work if swim powdered crack and did the wash? If so will it still be in its smokeable form? Or will it be the snortable kind?

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first of all, just cause someone says an acetone wash works for yayo, doesnt mean it does, did u also read the 50million other reports saying that there's no way in hell that it works? If you want to guinea pig it, try it. Water might work also since cocaine in freebase form (crack) is almost completely insoluble in water if i remember correctly.

If you make ur own crack, do the freebase method (ether and ammonia). It give pure cocaine base and smokes like a dream!
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Old 30-06-2006, 15:25
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heat?

should swim first poder the rock and mix it vigorusly with the water and then pour through a coffee filter? Or would any heating be needed?
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how to clean up nasty crack

This is kinda a theory but:
1)first powder the crack
2)place in spoon with some water and heat. Heat evenly till almost simmering. This is to disolve any water soluble cut and any extra bakeing powder. Coke is water soluble but its base is not. Allow to cool and pour off the water.
3). Dry whats left
4) powder and place in a new spoon with white vinager and heat till almost simmering. The bakeing soda will react with the vinager and turn the base into coke again.
5). Once cooled run the liquid through a fine filter and discard any solids.
6) evaporate the vinager.
7) scrape up the residue and place in a new spoon and freebase as you would if it was coke. This process should allow you to use the minimum of baking soda and help remove some of the cut.

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firstly there are many posts and threds on hear about freebaseing stuff utfse we dont realy need any more also you say it's water soluble so coke will disolve but then sugest poring away the water? the water would have the coke in it. but coke atualy collects as an oil on serface of water so its the base and cut that disolve in the water. you dont need vinager eather or to pour it threw filters simply collecting the cleaned oil would be enough. so this is not a very efficiant way of doing it (how many spoons do you need)lol plus it has many wrong facts in it. swim can understand geting it and rewashing it especialy if it has been washed with amonia first time round, but simply like you would coke to crack just making a cleaner stone but all you need is one spoon water and baking soda. nothing more or less.
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I understood the post well enough despite the error in regard to solubility.

No sense cutting into the guy.

I would assume that vinigar would not be potent enough to cause freebase cocaine to react sufficiently where it surrenders ALL of it's base-like properties, so I suspect that there may be risk of having some residual freebase material left over after the initial conversion.

bigelf,

Do you know anyone who has actually TRIED this process?

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swim did not meen to cut into anyone and if thats how it came across swim apologises. just seamed abit to much for something that is relativly simple. aswell as the fact there is many posts on good freebasing tec's.
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you got it, i'd use ice water, baking powder is soluable enough to dissolve in cold, and the warmer it is the more chance you have of dissolving some coke which you really dont want
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i meant baking soda
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A co-incidence that Bigelf mentioned this because Swim told me that someone mentioned acetone to him last week. Maybe it's relevant to the discussion here.

Basically Swim scrapes his crack pipe out every now and then and gets a few strong hits from the scrapings. But he was told to clean his pipe out with acetone - this would clean everything out - and then let the residue dry completely. The result, he was assured, would be Very Good.

Has anyone here tried that? If so, what was the result?

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personally, i wouldnt, rez will def be left from the acetone (other than crack rez) unless u use lab grade stuff (and even then some could be left), which i believe is flammable. So if rez is left all over your pipe it could catch flame while sparking it up, just a thought. I'd stick to scraping
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But he was told to clean his pipe out with acetone - this would clean everything out - and then let the residue dry completely. Has anyone here tried that? If so, what was the result?

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No, if it's crack, ethanol is the solvent. Wash, collect, filter and leave to evaporate/dry.
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Old 27-07-2006, 16:26
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Any thoughts?
Crack = soluble in ethanol. Wash with ethanol, collect and filter, leave to dry/evaporate.
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yea acetone wont wash it ether or ethanol will.
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Purifying Crack Cocaine

SWIM is curious about the best method for him to purify crack cocaine. Hes read the FAQ, but mostly found information relating to purifying cocaine hydrochloride rather than crack cocaine. SWIMs knowledge of chemistry is pathetic, so perhaps hes missing something. Could somebody direct him to some useful (and hopefully not too complicated) information on the subject of purifying crack cocaine?
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Old 24-04-2008, 07:37
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Re: Purifying Crack Cocaine

Have you tried using the search engine on here...?

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Re: the purifying crack thread

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Re: purifying crack

Wash pipe out with tone...pour onto mirror or glass from picture frame and light with lighter..stand back and after the flames go out scrape up the gunk and smoke

I know this sounds like i am trying to burn your house down but if you use only a little bit at a time the flame are not big
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Re: purifying crack

I knew someone who used alcohol(rubbing?) that you buy in the pharmacy. It comes in the same type of bottle as peroxide except its usually white.. Apparently it works quite well as long as it is 100% (or close to) and is unscented... !!!Don't use 50%!!! All you need to do is put a little ( 10 drops or so? ) into your 'pipe' , plug each end with your fingers and shake it around a little bit (try not to spill), pour out the fluid onto some glass or a mirror and then light the fluid on fire, after the alcohol burns off you are left with an oily (brown\black) substance you can scrape off with a razor blade - usually the stuff on the glass is still wet but as you scrape it off it dries up pretty quick. This method doesn't take very long and yeilds some good tokes. Although, before you reuse the pipe, make sure you burn off any fluid that may be left in it or it will taste kinda nasty! You can also reclean your pipe several times using this method since it doesn't always get everything out the first time. Works very well with brass type fittings! My friend says that before you use this method it is best if you scrape out any chunks of resine first and use this method for your last cleanings.
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Re: purifying crack

Swim has also found many answers to purifying cocaine but not crack. This thread is more explaining how to get the rez out of your pipe. Swim has been in search of the best way to purify crack. He cant always get powder to make it the freebase method (using only ammonia ) and usually ends up buying not so good crack. So does anyone have any suggestions on how the clean or purify a crack rock to make it as pure as possible without having to convert it back to cocaine or without the use of ether. Also is petroleum ether as hard to obtain as ethyl?
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Re: purifying crack

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Swim has been in search of the best way to purify crack. He cant always get powder to make it the freebase method (using only ammonia ) and usually ends up buying not so good crack. So does anyone have any suggestions on how the clean or purify a crack rock to make it as pure as possible without having to convert it back to cocaine or without the use of ether. Also is petroleum ether as hard to obtain as ethyl?
wash with water (i.e. crush it up in powder and add water, filter out the precipitate (thats freebase) and then dissolve in acetone, filter out anything insoluble and let evaporate, that sould give you a somewhat purer compound.

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Re: purifying crack

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wash with water (i.e. crush it up in powder and add water, filter out the precipitate (thats freebase) and then dissolve in acetone, filter out anything insoluble and let evaporate, that sould give you a somewhat purer compound.
Great thanks for the response swim will try this on his next crack binge. Swim is familiar with the water wash for crack but not with the acetone. Does the acetone need to be anhydrous since freebase crack is not water soluble or does that just help out speeding up the evaporation time? Also can u tell swim how much acetone to use to dissolve say a gram of crack. Also how long does it normally take to evaporate?. More importantly as soon as the acetone does evaporate is it safe to smoke or do u have to wait 24 hrs like in the cocaine washing technique?
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Re: purifying crack

Ok swim has come across some more possible solutions for purifying Crack if you get it already made and unable to do or it takes to long to do the conversion to cocaine to do that cleaning process and convert back to crack/freebase.

Some are contradictions from two threads on here for purifying that I was hoping for some input if anyone knows the answer too. Here are the two quotes

"Take the rocks in question & put 'em in a spoon with some ammonia. Heat the spoon from the bottom until the ammonia boils & rocks dissolve, then either just let the ammonia cool or collect the oil floating in the ammonia by dabbing at it with a paper clip or butter knife and letting it dry out. Preferably, collect the oil. This should purify the base and (hopefully) get rid of the bad taste.
Do let the new rocks dry completely tho, or you'll have an even worse taste (ammonia).Edited by: Nicaine"

Now here is the next quote from someone else:

"sometimes especialy if has a yellow or brown tinge to it it has been made with amonia rather than bicarb. this can make it a harsher smoke on swiy's lungs also taste like crap. like it has adulterants innit."

So using ammonia may purify it or make it worse not sure anyone else have an idea or maybe it can help or make it worse depending on certain factors not mentioned..?

There was also a question from a coca extraction thread that asked if dissolving in IPA and let evaporate as oppose to acetone will have a cleaner purer base that I couldnt find a follow up answer for that may also be helpful.

Ok So doing research on this forum for purifying Freebase/crack swim has come up with the following:

PURIFYING CRACK/FREEBASE

A WATER WASH: Chop crack/freebase into fine powder as possible. Put in cup or beaker and Add WARM water and mix,let powder settle and pour off the water and repeat. Do this a couple times then filter and dry crack base. (This step swim read helps remove amphetamines if present)
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ACETONEThis step was suggested to give a "somewhat" purer compound) Dissolve crack/freebase in acetone filter and let evaporate. (A QUESTION for this step is does the acetone need to be anhydrous since crack/base is insoluble in water or does that just help in the evaporation process speeding it up?) If it does need to be anhydrous there are easy instructions on this forum to get the acetone anhydrous by heating epson salt and adding it to the acetone.

AMMONIAWaiting conformation on this step ) "Take the rocks in question & put 'em in a spoon with some ammonia. Heat the spoon from the bottom until the ammonia boils & rocks dissolve, then either just let the ammonia cool or collect the oil floating in the ammonia by dabbing at it with a paper clip or butter knife and letting it dry out. Preferably, collect the oil. This should purify the base and (hopefully) get rid of the bad taste.
Do let the new rocks dry completely tho, or you'll have an even worse taste (ammonia).

DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW THESE OTHER CHEMICALS MAY HELP OR WONT HELP AND THE STEPS TO USE IT TO CLEAN PURIFY CRACK/FREEBASE? ALSO please indicate if one does the same or better job than the other at cleaning out the same thing or do they clean out different things which then it we be wiser to do additional steps if possible to get the cleanest purest crack/freebase and also any other chems that can be used if u know.

HERE ARE THE CHEMS IN QUESTION:

PETROLEUM ETHER, ISOPROPYL ALCOHOL IPA, ETHANOL (Everclear), AMMONIA

**Theres about 3 or more threads on this topic that really didnt get anywhere substantial and there is such a huge, wonderful and extensive write up on cleaning and purifying cocaine and what chems to use,how to use them, and what they help to get out by some amazing brilliant people. Hopefully they read this and help the swimmers who prefer clean pure crack/base achieve this because the rock on the street these days in swims opinion is getting worse and worse quality and since he believes its the same darn original coca plant used to produce the crack/freebase Its gotta be stuff added in there that we can get out so we can get a batch like it used to be in the early 90s where you couldnt get a bad batch of crack/base. Bell ringer after bell ringer and such beautiful resin would come back in the pipe. Ya gotta see the crap that runs down the pipe some times these days with a bonus aweful taste , headaches,confusion, shakes,chills, hot flashes and sores in the mouth from some of this crap.
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Re: purifying crack

I talked to friend of mine and he said he tried to re-cook some crack using ammonia (scentless) but it didn't do much to make the crack any better. He has heard of people who use ?lemon juice? or maybe ?vinegar? to make the crack water soluable again but I don't know if this would help in your venture to purify crack.

whassisname added 7 Minutes and 49 Seconds later...

"then either just let the ammonia cool or collect the oil floating in the ammonia by dabbing at it with a paper clip or butter knife and letting it dry out"

just wanted to comment on this because instead of taking the oil directly from the ammonia, it is better to rinse it in a cup of water. Just take the spoon, maybe wipe the ash off the botom, slowly submerge the bottom of the spoon into a wide mouthed cup or bowl filled and then once the edge of the spoon is almost flush with the water line carefully tilt the spoon and let the water rinse into it.

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