How to use / extract morning Glory.

[Jimmeh]

So SWIM has decided he wants to do Morning Glory, but even by looking on Erowid and searching on this forum he finds information to be a bit muddled and confusing.

SWIM would like to know:

1)How many seeds to take(was thinking about 200?)
2)How to take them.

Regarding no. 2, SWIM has read of a couple of extraction methods but is unsure of which one to use(SWIM isn't going to just eat them since he's heard of the bad nausea which is probable). The petroleum ether and high proof alcohol method seems to be the best, but is it worth it? Does it tend eliminate nausea better than other methods? SWIM has also heard of doing a CWE, redissolving in alcohol, filtering and drinking which appeals more to him. Would this method be as effective as the first one SWIM mentioned? How much alcohol/water would be needed and how long would it take to dissolve both times? And if SWIM couldn't get a very high proof alcohol could he use a lower one, maybe 40%? If yes would he have to use more of it, leave it longer to dissolve etc. Any other methods people use to eliminate nausea that they'd recommend?(SWIM's heard of taking ginger or dramamine with the seeds).

[MrPissmister]

swims had loads of success with dramamine. he took 2 while his friend took none. after dosing on a HBWR CWE, swim burped a little but was cool, while his friend promptly puked his guts out. good ganja seems to be a good ticket to no nausea as well, although I would say you're better off not mixing drugs to begin with, especially coming up on lsa.

200 MGs is gonna do something for sure, but it's a small dose especially considering the unknown activity of the seeds which have often been poor in swims experience. dont EXPECT anything. It is recommended that you prepare them simply by thoroughly crushing to a fine powder, soaking in distilled or otherwise high quality water for 12 hours or more, then dosing as needed. this is simplest and effective. some form of nausea is defenitely going to occur but there are a few things you can do to fight that. dont eat before your trip, at the very least have an empty stomach. take dramamine. dose slow, like over the period of an hour or more. smoke weed if you have to. if you prepare a 1000 seeds in this way you'll be in for a wild ride for sure.

set and setting are also very important with any psychedelic, keep this in mind.

[Trebor]

Wouldn't taking petroleum ethanol kill you?

[oldman]

Originally Posted by Trebor

Wouldn't taking petroleum ethanol kill you?

yeah, you must allow the filtered contents time for the pet ether to evap off. probably it's out in a day but 2-3 wouldn't hurt as long as you keep it in a dark, moderate temp, dry space. anything else and you risk losing some lysergides and avtive material. when it no longers smells of pet. ether it's proably out. wait another day still though.

[Nagognog2]

Do you mean petroleum ether? Pet. Ether, not actually an ether at all, is a mixture of aliphatic hydrocarbons usually from pentane (C5) up to heptane (C7). Using such as a solvent to extract alkaloids is done by removing the solvent afterwards by evaporation - leaving behind the desired molecule(s). The solvent itself is not consumed. If it were, it could indeed kill you.

[Alfa]

Is there any difference between Hawaiian baby woodrose extraction and morning glory extraction?

[oldman]

the only thing i've heard is that there are less toxins in the baby woodrose seeds. have read of similar extractions with them though. have heard of people taking them with only the skins soaked and removed. and removing the skins then doing an extraction. apparently (i have not personally seen HBW seeds) since they are larger and you only need maybe 5-6 (?) the skins are easily removed. I do not remember (reading) alot about them though so I may be wrong.

[Alfa]

Actually Morning Glory seeds contain far less toxins than Hawaiian Baby woodrose.