Research Chemicals in the UK

[bravo]

Now firstly i apologise in advance if i have broken any rules of the forum in making this thread.

SWIM is relitively new to the RC drugs and is very interested by them.He has found out that they can be bought from online vendors and wants to do so for research purposes.

SWIM is interested to know if SWIY (from the UK), has ever bought from these vendors and had any problems with the law or recieving them, as they may not be sent discretely enough.As these chemicals are illegal in the UK he believes, and doesnt want any trouble with the law.

[Nagognog2]

Discussion of sources is only allowed in the Sources Forum, which is for gold members and above. And only for legal materials. This includes private messages as well. SWIM will have to contribute useful posts and make gold like those before him, or take his chances.

[IHrtHalucingens]

Im not sure if SWIB was asking for specifics about vendors or sources, i interpretted it as a general sort of question.

As i see it his question is: Has anyone in the UK, regardless of the source, had any troubles with the law regarding their order of a RC? Is it too risky? or can SWIM get away with it?

Is this still a violation of the sources rule? I pretty sure ive seen many questions like this asked in regards to the US without being in violation. Enlighten me.

[bravo]

Yes my question was in general as you interpretted it.

[fatal]

if you dont want to go to jail dont break the law. your country stands as the only one which swim knows of that has actually conducted raids on customers of RC companies. be wary... as swim wrote in another thread if you are in the uk you still have AMT benzodifurans and some few others... take advantage of what you have... oh and also... many RC vendors will not ship illegal products to the uk... probably because of what is written above...

[bravo]

Thanks to everyone that took the time to reply.

[fatal]

also for those resourceful uk revolutionaries... fear not for you have another loophole...

Originally Posted by fastandbulbous

^only substitution into the amine/nitrogen of the side chain with alkyl groups results in controlled substances; the allyl group is an alkenyl, not an alkyl group (and they distinguish alkyl as being different to alkenyl in another part of the Misuse of Drugs Act)

[Nagognog2]

Yes that does open up an entirely new territory for the enterprising organic chemist to explore. DALT and derivatives have only touched the proverbial surface of the possible configurations here. Hmm...n,n-diethenyl...propenylethenyl...to the labs, boys!

[fatal]

the misuse of drugs act is destined to be relegated to historical footnote in the story of the creation of an entire new branch of the tryptamine family... gotta love it when someone makes a law sits back and thinks "ha that should do it." while behind the scenes his actions have caused events to take a new and intriguing turn which will surely derail his plans for a sober nation.

this leads me into another tangental idea here... what of other tryptamines that remain unexplored? what about nn-isopropylpropyltryptamine nn-methylpropyltryptamine or nn-ethylpropyltryptamine? what if you were to make nn-allylpropyltryptamine? would that be covered under the misuse of drugs act? do both n substitutions have to be alkenyl or just one? what about 5-meo-trimethyltryptamine?(third methyl at the two) how would it affect activity there if you were to start doing substitutions? 5-meo-2-propyl-DMT 4-ho-2-methyl-MPT for example. beta methoxylization of PEAs has shown success... what about with tryptamines? would a B-MeO-T be exempt from the MODA? what about the beta substitution series of phenethylamines? BOB BOD BOH etc... are these within the scope of this nefarious law as well?

[Abrad]

I'm not sure if discussion about where RCs are shipped from is really appropriate.

[Nagognog2]

abrad84 is correct. It is NOT alright to fish for specific info on points of origin. Deleted.

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